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Not sure if this has already been covered in the MDMA thread but as I have to leave soon to go out I sadly don’t have time to trawl through the myriad threads on mandy (MDMA), a quick reply would be so appreciated.

To explain my problem in a sentence I don’t get any of the pleasurable effects of mandy, empathy, feeling of warmth etc, just this incredibly nervous, listless feeling of anxiousness and alternating periods of feeling groggy.

To give some background I’ve been taking mandy for the last 3 years or so but have stopped this year as it tends to ruin my night a bit. I put this down to overuse as at my peak of usage I was getting through a few grammes every night and doing this every week. I haven’t taken mandy since the end of 2011 where it cut my night short as I pranged out but I was wondering if after a lengthy break from it I’d be ok to take it again, or if there is something else that I could either take with it or do to help this fact.

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How much are you taking?
Do you take MDMA in the same environment every time?
Do you use other empathogenic, or stimulant drugs? If so, do you get "good" effects?
Do you test your MDMA chemically, or get it tested somewhere trusted?
Have you recently had to deal with stressful events?
Would you feel you'd be having fun if you were in the exact same place, but not on MDMA?

It sounds to me like you're either taking too much, what you have is not MDMA, or (most likely) the magic has gone from using MDMA in similar environments for years.

Taking a long break is probably the best thing you can do. Make sure to eat plenty of protien, get good sleep, excercise et cetera to help your body recondition itself. Even a one or two week break can be enough to bring back positive effects - but of course, longer is better.

When you do decided to do M again, it may be best to try it in a new environment. Try to control some of the factors that may lead to a bad trip.
Make sure to be well rested, and have a light meal before you roll. Get a good calibrated scale and weigh your dose out.
If you normally go and do M at a club with lots of people, try taking it at home with a loved one instead, or going out to a park on a nature walk.
Bring some light snacks and a bottle of water.

Hopefully you will find some of this advice useful.
 
Heya thanks for getting back to me with such a comprehensive answer.

Well, I'd buy 2 grammes of mandy for each night (99.9 percent of the time I took mandy it was at a rave/club) and normally get through it. I started off just taking m by itself but soon started taking the odd bump of ket to add to my roll and the occasional couple of 2cb pills, so no other stimulants with it.

It's probably worth mentioning that Im quite a nervous person and I get really bad comedowns, which is why amphetamines on the whole arent really my thing, I used to sniff a 'bump' of ket while coming up to kill the nerves, but no I haven't had anything thats been bearing on my mind as of late so hopefully this next roll I do will be good.

I never have had my drug tested prior to taking it, but it seems this long break will have done me good, but I'll defintley check the dosage rather than scoffing, thanks man
 
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2-3 grams per night?!? On a weekly basis?!?

Over here on the other side of the pond, a typical dose is 100-125mg, maybe 150-175mg for bigger people (i.e. 200lbs +). Assuming that I triple drop over the course of the night, I personally max out between 400-500mg for an 8-10 hour roll ... and that's me tripping balls for most of the night.

Assuming you're getting good product, I'd recommend pre-loading with piracetam (800mg, 2x/day) and choline (300mg, 2x/day) for a week in advance and then try a normal (125mg-150mg) of mandy before proceeding.
 
Yeah seems as i thought the problem is dose related- I didnt start out on that much but heavy repeat usage just led to me jacking up the dose and was just me being a complete idiot and not really doing my homework on the drug.
Pretty ridiculous I continued it on for so long, I usually didn't make bombs that were weighed out but I do think its key now and gonna do so from now on, thanks so much everyone.:D much <3
 
Hello Mnus 2-3 gs per night I am amazed after 400mG or so it had any effect at all.

To give some background I’ve been taking mandy for the last 3 years or so but have stopped this year as it tends to ruin my night a bit.
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I have also abused MDMA in the past. I found now if I take it makes me feel very wired out, has no empathy feeling and will then turn me into a nevous wreck for months after.

If I were you I would take a long break 1 year + the longer the break the better. During this break really look after yourself with good health on all levels.

At the end of the break evaluate if you wish to continue using MDMA. Sounds like you might be getting dangerously close to long term come down territory if you continue to use it.

A long term come down is like living in a Horror Movie.

Seems with some people who have abused MDMA it no longer has the good effects once you reach this point I would advise you to not take it anymore.

Just for reference 150-200mG is the recomended max dose with no taking the following days. Then a 3 month break imbetween.

Sounds like you are okay just need a long break.
 
What is a long term comedown? And what do you mean Horror movie? How bad does it get? I would like to know before taking it again.
 
I've also been there and abused MDMA.. It does start to feel nasty..

I've taken multiple breaks from months to years.. to be honest mate, it aint looking good.. all (partly)serotonergic drugs seem a bit crap to me now.. MDMA, Methylone, 6-APB, etc..

It's got better. Alot better. I can atleast enjoy taking these chemicals these days.. but i know they're not doing what they should be by a long shot..
 
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What is a long term comedown? And what do you mean Horror movie? How bad does it get? I would like to know before taking it again.
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Depression, anxiety, social anxiety, memory problems, paranoia, lethargy, speech problems, depression, anxiety, depression and depression?

Trust me. You don't wanna push it.
 
Depression, anxiety, social anxiety, memory problems, paranoia, lethargy, speech problems, depression, anxiety, depression and depression?
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^^ I will second that speaking from personal experience.

How bad does it get? I would like to know before taking it again.
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Taradox if you think you are even close to any of the issues or symptoms discussed you really dont want to find out.

The best way I can answer this if you imagine how AMAZING rolling makes you feel. Then long term comedown is the same extreme and intensity as this but completely the opposite and is just totally AWFUL. Combine fear, paranoia, confusion, nervous, shy, ashamed, disorientated, unreality then that is how it feels. The feeling is from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to sleep. In many ways during this time you would rather be dead.

I invite any other member to try and describe a long term comedown. They can last from 30 days to several years.
 
would you say rolling every 2 or 3 weeks, taking only a couple pills those nights, would that be abusing it?
 
i would defenietly say yes to that.
sure you can roll twice within 2 weeks but if you do that for some time alle the magic will be gone.
take a break for some months.

i've been waiting now for 2 monthts... i hope it will bring the magic back
 
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