North Carolina Partial Needle Decriminalization Bill Passes

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A bill that would partially decriminalize syringe possession and help prevent needle sticks has passed the North Carolina legislature. The state House passed it 111-2 last month, and it passed the Senate Wednesday on a unanimous 48-0 vote. The bill, House Bill 850, now goes to the governor.

The bill would allow people carrying syringes to avoid arrest if they admit to having them when asked by a law enforcement office. The measure won broad law enforcement support because it would reduce the chance of police officers getting stuck by needles when searching people.

Previous efforts to pass syringe decriminalization or exchange bills in the Tarheel State had foundered, but thanks to a smart and patient campaign by the North Carolina Harm Reduction Coalition and its allies, this effort has now made it through the legislature.

"A lot of legislators would like to support it, but view it as tough politically, so we are trying to do something a bit more progressive and a bit more conservative instead, which is to decriminalize syringe possession," the coalition's Robert Childs explained to the Chronicle last month. "With syringe exchanges, there are limits. You have to be a member to reap the benefits. But with decriminalization, we can decriminalize syringes entirely, no matter the source, what it's being used for or where in the state you live. So no matter if you have Addison's disease, diabetes or are a injection drug user, you can carry syringes and do not have to be part of a government sponsored program to get benefits."

In addition to addressing law enforcement concerns, syringe decriminalization also goes with conservative values, Childs said.

"Decriminalization will decrease law enforcement needle sticks, but what really resonated with the legislature was its emphasis on less spending on costly diseases, greater reliance on the community members, personal accountability and responsibility," he said. "We stand in solidarity with our conservative allies on this issue by solving these public health and public order issues through deregulation."

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Cops shouldn't be searching people in the first place, unless there's been a murder, rape or theft.

Also, admission of syringe possession can serve as probable cause for a search. I don't see too many people voluntarily admitting to needles because of this law.
 
The bill would allow people carrying syringes to avoid arrest if they admit to having them when asked by a law enforcement office.

How the fuck does that work if you still have dope/drugs on you? :\

They (and every other state) need to pass a law that says sharps safely disposed in a sharps container aren't drug paraphanilia.

"Yeah officer I have used rigs on me..." = probable cause to search you

This isn't a good law TBPH, or at least, not well thought out.
 
Prior to searching a person, a person's premises, or a person's vehicle, an officer may ask the person whether the person is in possession of a hypodermic needle ... or whether such a hypodermic needle or other sharp object is on the premises or in the vehicle to be searched.

I hope McCrory signs it. Note the underlined bit; it makes perfect sense.
 
I hope McCrory signs it. Note the underlined bit; it makes perfect sense.

Oh so the law applies when they are already going to search someone, whether or not the person actually has needles/drugs/whatever.

So this would allow people to only go to jail for the dope, and not a needle charge too, or just on a needle charge (instead they wouldn't go to jail at all).

This makes more sense now.

I still think they should just do it so that if it's properly disposed in a sharps container it's not paraphanilia. That's a better idea IMO; and would prevent people from getting stuck by a needle as people would dispose of them properly (ideally).

I guess the flip side to that is not every IDU will have a sharps container...
 
Can you buy syringes at pharmacies in NC, without a prescription? That's the most important thing from an HR perspective I think.

I like North Carolina. I wouldn't mind living in Asheville, or the mountains.
 
Can you buy syringes at pharmacies in NC, without a prescription? That's the most important thing from an HR perspective I think.

My almost-entirely-sure guess would be a resounding "no". I know in Virginia when I used to live there, it was impossible/near-impossible to buy insulin syringes at a pharmacy. When I finally managed to buy them from a pharamcy, within a few months, they stopped selling to me. *shrugs* I continued to buy them online, and now, I go to a needle exchange.

Our native NC'er BOB will tell us soon enough.
 
Yes OTC syringes are available as long as you want to deal with an ackward transaction. Also I have heard of people getting refused. But legally you CAN buy 'em.

^ the fact that someone got refused is just a sign that the pharmacist has the right to say no and that they are likely to say no to you.

in LA it's legal to buy three ten packs and possess them, and certain pharmacies have enrolled with the DPDP (disease prevention demonstration project) that will always sell to you here.
 
My almost-entirely-sure guess would be a resounding "no". I know in Virginia when I used to live there, it was impossible/near-impossible to buy insulin syringes at a pharmacy. When I finally managed to buy them from a pharamcy, within a few months, they stopped selling to me. *shrugs* I continued to buy them online, and now, I go to a needle exchange.

Our native NC'er BOB will tell us soon enough.

Never had trouble buying them in Charlotte NC. One time I even had a girl ahead of me in line buying rigs and i had to help her ask the pharmacist for the correct needles. Which I thought was funny ....."no,no,no you want go for the 1cc...."

There's a big dope scene there. It might be up to the pharmacist, or be a county/city thing. I could definitely imagine some problems buy rigs in the more conservative/rural areas.
 
IME it's store-dependant. E.g. in Winston-Salem Walgreens never sells to me or my friends, but all the other chains will. Up here in Asheville (which is quite a nice small town, 234510), CVS doesn't sell to my friend, but I haven't had a problem with the major chain grocery store up here or another major pharmacy. I haven't tried Walgreens or Rite-Aid, though. In Durham, it's a bit more difficult to get needles because of how big a problem dope is there. Those are the only cities where I have any significant experience getting needles.
 
How do police know you are not a diabetic? I live in Canada and my buddy is a diabetic, he looks like a junkie too, they have to sell them to you here even if they suspect you are using them for illegal drugs. I think they should put a deposit on them so there is less incentive to toss them away, thats all I would change. If cops dont want to get poked, don't stick your hand in some junkies pocket.

"Cops shouldn't be searching people in the first place, unless there's been a murder, rape or theft."

I agree. Too often they use the excuse "you fit the description of someone we were looking for" and then "we are are going to search you for officer safety". People have have become so conditioned to the searchs they forgot this isnt nazi Germany and no one should be randomly searched.
 
In md if you go to the pharmacy and ask for rigs they ask if you have an insulin rx there if not they can be really douchy about it. Grocery store pharmacies in the city or close to the city is the best bet.
 
How do police know you are not a diabetic? I live in Canada and my buddy is a diabetic, he looks like a junkie too, they have to sell them to you here even if they suspect you are using them for illegal drugs. I think they should put a deposit on them so there is less incentive to toss them away, thats all I would change.

What about the people who couldn't afford a deposit?
 
Then they can't afford drugs either

But if you have some dude hanging out horribly, he's got just enough money for his next shot, what's he going to do? Wait till he has more money to afford the needle deposit, or use a dirty one?
 
:sus:To varying degrees straight people want drug users to die.Alcohol prohibition lasted for 14 years and was repealed.The war on drugs has lasted for 43 years. Longer if you go back to the various narcotics laws passed in the LAST CENTURY. Sensibilitys appeal to harm reduction and cost savings.Otherwise most straights don't give a good god-damn about drug users.It seems to me that this will be the status-quo forever.Hell, all I can do is LOL
 
Make each rig have a core charge that way junkies will collect any used rigs and turn them in for cash or clean ones.

That for sure^
Needle exchanges seem to work well in Canada. Big cities here have still have the city guys with rakes on all the playgrounds at dawn though. Its harm reduction for all of society to keeps needles from poking people. If they had a value people would be less likely to toss them IMO.
How often would someone use a dirty needle if they couldn't afford the deposit on a new one? And if exchange is available too? I think that scenario is win-win.
 
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