[NOOB] Methoxetamine First Time - Multiple questions.

[Kishka]

Hello,

I will have the opportunity to try the "Methoxetamine". I'm kind of exicted but nervous at the same time. I don't know how Methoxetamine is like nor I never tried Ketamine too.

Latest drugs I've tried were 4-Ho-MET and 2C-E (The 2C-E was clearly amazing!). I heard that is a dissociative a la DXM. The main concern is that I've tried DXM 2 times and I really didn't like it. First time with it was kind of great (Light visuals on the walls and it was hard to stay straight up). Second time was horrible, dosed on the low spectrum too and I had a very terrible hypertension on it, heart pounding extremely fast and felt very sick. I could ended myself...

So I know this thread could be annoying but I have some questions that I want to ask.

It would be so nice of you to help me! I will post my questions with alphanumeric.

1 - Can someone describe me the high from Methoxetamine ?
2 - What is the best ROA for this stuff ? (Snorted, Sublingual, Oral... ?)
3 - I never snorted a drug so... does it hurt the nose ? What's the feeling when you snort ? I don't want to be overwhelmed for my first time
4 - Could you explain me how is the come-up, the peak and the comedown of this drug ?
5 - What are the physical, mental and visuals effects ?
6 - What kind of side-effects should I worry for ?
7 - Is there any life-threatning effects that I should be aware ?
8 - Is there any euphoria or feeling of calmness with Methoxetamine ?
9 - I'm prescribed Alprazolam 2mg - 3 times a day - since I'm young. I got some anxiety disorders including paranoïa, panic attacks and restlesness. Is there any trouble combining the Alprazolam with Methoxetamine ?
10 - I'm a very thin girl, I'm like 40 - 45 kilograms at max so I can be very sensitive. What do you think is the best dose for my weight ? Also, I heard about the CNS effect of this drug. Is my weight too low for this drug ? Should I be in case of having a CNS depression ? (Like Methoxetamine will be too strong for my weight).
11 - What great effects could I have ?
12 - I also read that it's nearly impossible to have a bad trip on this stuff and that Methoxetamine have anti-anxiety properties at low dose ? Is this actually true ?

I read all the erowid stuff about Methoxetamine but anyway I prefer to ask to people here for experience and advices.

Much regards

 

[any major dude]

Its a bit difficult to describe a dissociative high to someone who hasn't experienced it. I'd guess the big & dandy mxe thread should be helpful in that regard. As well as trip reports here & on erowid.

If you're going to snort mxe & you haven't done it before I wouldn't start with more than 15mg. Maybe 10. Then just work your way up in 5-10mg increments. Be careful though b/c mxe can take a while to come on.

Mxe can cause mania in higher doses, but if you stay on the low end its not a problem. Frankly mxe mania can be enjoyable, but you could weird out the people around you lol.

 

[phenethylo J]

I used like snorting mxe but now I prefer oral or sublingual. I find the trip more dissasociating that way. With nasal administration I find it to be too dirty and stimulating unless I use snorting just for a booster dose after taking it orally or sublingualing. I used to be perscribed benzos for insomnia and mxe didn't seem to interact bad since. Just make sure to start out very low like amd said.

 

[Kishka]

So what is the best ROA for this one ? But I'm wondering what the effects like... If someone can reply to my questions posted on my first post, it would be nice as I'm kind of anxious..

 

[intensecycle]

Using MXE with strong. mental disorder like yours is dumb, IMO
.. It will not cause bad trip, yes, but doubt it will influence positively to further feelings in life

 

[choco1ate]

mxe up the nose feels like clouds. its less intense than oral/sub, but thats not a bad thing cause its more forgiving with higher dosage. if you dose too high oral its more likely to turn on you, in my experience

 

[Kishka]

I never snorted drugs. Does it hurt ?

 

[lastest]

^ It very much depends on the substance. Most people find MXE easy on the nose - it's the most pain-free drug to snort that I've come across personally.

I wish I could help you with what the high is like but it's not possible to convey in words. It's pretty much my favourite drug of all time, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Make sure to follow all the sensible advice about dosing that people have given in this thread and you'll be fine, even if it turns out not to be for you.

 

[Kishka]

I will do a 5 mg line first. I will cut it in 2 also.

What are the physical effect of this substance please ?

Thanks

 

[6apbhmm]

In low doses there are none, just pleasant state of mind.

In higher doses (30mg+), increased heart rate, total analgesia, numbness in limbs, loss of movement coordination, vertigo, spinning sensation. But it actually sounds worse than it is, if you ever try higher doses you'll find it actually pleasant even with all those effects.. but thats when addiciton can start to occur.

 

[freedstar]

It's very different in my opinion than DXM, so don't worry about that.

First time I tried it I did about 80mg, thinking I might as well try and reach some sort of "m-hole". Much too much. It was very disassociating. Things appeared larger/smaller and closer/further away. Not visuals like from a psychedelic. I was very fucked up and zonked out of my mind. At the same time my thoughts were racing, almost manic I felt. It was a strange thing to be so disassociated yet able to think. It's hard to describe.

I've only tried it one or two other times at reasonable doses. Maybe 25mg. It feels very good as a drug. Makes you happy etc. Feels "clean", yet you can be very zonked out and feel in general very messed up. Overall I find it strange and hedonistic. Disassociatives have never been my thing, so I may bash MXE more than others. I prefer psychedelics over it.

I wouldn't worry about having a bad time on it. It felt like a very feel good drug. If you treat it as if you were tripping and have a good safe place, you shouldn't have any paranoia either.

 

[whataboutheforests]

So what is the best ROA for this one ? But I'm wondering what the effects like... If someone can reply to my questions posted on my first post, it would be nice as I'm kind of anxious..

if you're anxious about doing a drug, chances are you will get anxious/have a panic attack while on the drug... I would stay away from it , especially since i remember reading about your experiences with other psychs.

Atleast read through the current big and dandy thread, and once you can answer all the questions in your original post, then I say go for it

 

[lastest]

I'm not being mean, but I don't think anyone is going to go through each question and give you a comprehensive answer to all of them - some of them aren't really possible to answer, the subjective effects of any drug cannot be described in any way that will prepare you for them.

In terms of interaction with benzos, don't worry about that. MXE, like ketamine, is NOT a CNS depressant and will NOT depress your breathing - in fact it will slightly stimulate it. I take etizolam along with MXE pretty much every time I do it for various reasons.

With the doses you are planning to do you will not be in any physical danger - as long as you do a 1mg allergy test first of course. It's not impossible that you will dislike the drug and find it unpleasant or anxiety-inducing, there's no way you can know that before trying it. I find it very calming - it's likely but not certain that you will too.

It sounds to me like you have your mind set on trying this drug, and will go ahead with trying it. It's a very safe drug in dosages you're talking about, and you seem very cautious and sensible. If you want a guarantee you won't have a bad time, no one can give you that. It's a risk you'll just have to take if you want to try this new experience. I can tell you're already doing all the right things to minimize this risk, but I can't tell you how much you will or won't enjoy the experience.

tl;dr: Physical danger of snorting 5mg of MXE = practically none, benzos or no benzos.
Danger of feeling a bit shit from snorting 5mg of MXE = impossible to determine but probably quite low.

 

[Kishka]

Hi!

Thank you all for your nice answer

I'm still a bit hesitating of trying it. I still have some 2C-D to explore before... I need to set my mind a bit!

Many thanks anyway

 

[Sepher]

Kishka, there's more than I could possibly be arsed to retype on one of the previous Big & Dandy MXE Threads here, including advice on insufflated doses and impressions of its effects. It is impossible to capture full MXE dissociation in words, it is somewhere beyond our day to day language, but it was all the things contained in that post and more. It's a fairly long post but I think reading it all will answer a lot of your questions, so only answering these specifically:

7 - Is there any life-threatning effects that I should be aware ?

You could easily be a danger to yourself. It is very disabling physically at hole doses, 50mg and up for me. You will absolutely want to be in a safe place, preferably with someone capable around.

8 - Is there any euphoria or feeling of calmness with Methoxetamine ?

Yes. Euphoria and anti-anxiety properties kick in at low doses, 10-20mg and up.

9 - I'm prescribed Alprazolam 2mg - 3 times a day - since I'm young. I got some anxiety disorders including paranoïa, panic attacks and restlesness. Is there any trouble combining the Alprazolam with Methoxetamine ?

Dunno about specific interactions but I think it unwise to be taking psychedelics / dissociatives / hallucinogens generally if you have an anxiety disorder requiring medication.

12 - I also read that it's nearly impossible to have a bad trip on this stuff and that Methoxetamine have anti-anxiety properties at low dose ? Is this actually true ?

Bullshit! Anti-anxiety at low doses yes but bad trips more than possible, as with any halluciogen. It can be very, very confusing at hole doses, especially disorienting coming out of the hole for a time.