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Non-raving Bluelighters...

^^^ don't need to sing along to have emotion in a song. trance is one of the most emotional forms of music, including certain instrumental tracks...sigur ros are probably one of the most emotionally effective bands in the world, and their music is often instrumental, or at least very little vocal work. and then there's classical music.

not trying to start an argument, just pointing out that emotion is more than just some sort of lyrical connection between the song and listener.
 
Perplexed by our little problem of defining what a raver actually is, I went to two different dictionary's.....and found this;

RAVER

1.To speak wildly, irrationally, or incoherently.
2.To roar; rage: The storm raved along the coast.
3.To speak or write with wild enthusiasm: Critics raved about the new play.
4.To attend a rave.

1.The act or an instance of raving.
2.Informal. An extravagantly enthusiastic opinion or review: The play received raves.
3.An all-night dance party, especially one where techno, house, or other electronically synthesized music is played.
4.Chiefly British. A raucous party; a rave-up.

Hope this sheds some light on the issue?
People seem to be right in assuming it really comes down to the music not the fashions. :)
 
well, i think the issue is that some people *attend* raves and clubs, but don't like to think of themselves as ravers, because it's not the image they like to project. i'm quite happy with that image i guess, 'cause i'm still stuck in my kandy kid raver phase of my life, and i like it :) others obviously attend raves but don't like the kind of things that people automatically correllate with dirty skanky plurry ravers, so they call themselves clubbers...or other stuff.
 
onetwothreefour said:
not trying to start an argument, just pointing out that emotion is more than just some sort of lyrical connection between the song and listener.
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Wanted to add my support to the above statement, before raves never saw much point to electronic music, loved my rock and meaningful lyrics but have no doubt today that trance is all about the emotion. It seems the whole point of trance music is to provide something musical to connect to when peaking. Those big cheesy build-ups... it's just so appropriate.

Not saying you can't connect to other music on E.
 
people change, priorities change and life changes. And for some people that means you get over it.

I used to live for the next rave, would think about it and make sure i did anything to get there, doesnt matter if i was straight or not. when i was a raver i lived for the rave. Then the chems took over and i lived for them, a rave was just somewhere i went to hang out with other fucked-up individuals. I thought i had made lots of friends but looking back now, i didnt.

I have always prefered doofs. I have made lots of true friends at doofs and spend most of my time at doofs straight. After getting really fuckedup and sick from all the chemies, i got a real reality check and decided that there are more important things in life than your next pill. Got healthy, went back to work, went back to study. so yes, i got over it. Im really quite happy that i did. I'll go to a good local doof if i can, but usually save up for a summer season of doofing!

People who dont know me consider me a raver, and i have mixed feelings about that. On one hand you know what they are thinking (i.e fucked up and off with the fairies) and on the other hand you feel insulted because you know thats not what your life is about anymore and you wish people would not see you that way.

I havent had a pill for almost a year, i dont really feel the need to have one at all in the near future. life is just more interesting without pills and meth.
(life is even more interesting with LSD but thats another story) Bluelight is more interesting to me now because im NOT a weekend dialer, and i like to be able to understand everyones opinions and feelings in a non-biased fashion!

would write more, but work calls!!

Andromeda:)
 
Andromeda said:
After getting really fucked up and sick from all the chemies, i got a real reality check and decided that there are more important things in life than your next pill. Got healthy, went back to work, went back to study. so yes, i got over it. Im really quite happy that i did.
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Yeah I know what you mean there Andromeda, I am kinda of going thru that kind of "stage" but not "really over it".... slowly getting over it, just like the people who run alcoholic anonymous.... "One step a time"...... 8)

No I am not a raver...... I am more of a barfly. 8(
 
En_warp said:

Ravers are druggies ;)
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I consider myself a raver but i dont go for the drugs.. the people.. or the atmosphere... i go for the music

I take drugs there but thats because i want to not because its part of the "scene" and if you think that every raver is a drug fucked idiot then you need to goto a rave and take a look around there are quite a few people there just to make sure that thier friends get home safe




PLUR EVERYONE!!!!
 
I love raves. I love them so much it's ridiculous. I rarely see any real fuckheads at raves, but when I do see them, I just laugh, cos I know they arn't having half as much fun as I am. I really don't care what I'm labelled as, or what people think of me and my habits, as long as im happy with myself then its all good!

But just for the record, "raver" is one term im always delighted to be associated with.

haha peace out!:)
 
tee hee god this thread is funny, i think someone has already said it, but the JADEDNESS WILL GET YOU!!!!

anyway.....well i would consider myself a raver, if that entails enjoying going to raves....although they are losing their appeal fast for me :(
i've had a pretty good run going to one every now and then for the past few years, i do have a pair of phatties and a visor that reads "i love techno" BUT i've lost that butterfly feeling, and actually was bored last week at wotw....hmmmm i think i'm growing up but yeah i still would consider myself a "raver" but not to the extent of "kandy kid" as i like to laugh at ppl with dummies :) tee hee...enjoy the "MAGIC" while it lasts!!! "
to quote- "it won't happen overnight but it will happen" *lol*
 
another thing... Kryalkastle you just reminded me.

i own several pairs of phatties, i think i only own maybe 7 pieces of normal clothing. I dress like a "raver" because thats how ive dressed for a VERY LONG TIME! its comfortable, its breezy and its easy to skate in. I dont mind if people think im a kandykid, it just bothers me that 75% of the populus see people who dress in such a fashion as ravers. ravers being in their media-fuelled mind junkie nutters who would sell their own grannies for an e.

just because you dont wear black, beige, brown, tan, camel or dusky pink does not make you a junkie.
 
Haha definately a non raver, I have been to two raves. Utopia at Wonderland last year (was fun, didn;t dance but rides and hanging with friends pinging at wonderland was definately an awesome experience :)) and some other one at a warehouse, which quite frankly bored the shit out of me, but hey each to their own. I think their is a fair chance that I would rather shoot both my knees out and crawl home then humiliate myself by sucking on a dummy :)
Strangley though when I go to a punk concert I like to go sober, maybe one or two beers. Ecstasy is fun and all, but I would rather remember the experience of seeing a fucking sick band. Most of my drugged out nights take place in nature - the beach or bush, or anywhere outdoors really.
 
i don't mind all the khandi kids, in fact i think it's quite cute and funny =D They are just people getting dressed up and having fun (mostly young kids) but even i like to dress up ;) I am going to go to a rave all kandied up at my age of 25 just for FUN and the whole novelty of it , why not? the world is your playground, play in it i say :) I don't really care what people think about it really, i'd much rather be playing dress ups and just being a kid really =D People forget their child like essence most of the time as they grow older. You can still be a grown up and a kid :p
 
I think CHiLD-0F-THE-BEAT hit the nail on the head. If you enjoy going to those parties referred to as RAVES (though this appears to have become a dirty word) then you could call yourself a raver. I have for some time, and it's not a word I have a problem with. The term has been around a long time, and "ravers" existed long before "candy kids".

Andromeda said: I dont mind if people think im a kandykid, it just bothers me that 75% of the populus see people who dress in such a fashion as ravers. ravers being in their media-fuelled mind junkie nutters who would sell their own grannies for an e.
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Now I find that amusing, because I have always seen it as being around the other way - candy kids being the ones with the reputation of getting right and royally fucked up.:\ It's all about individual perceptions I guess.
 
Me i never really got round to identifying with a subculture although i've hung around with metalheads and ravers alike. If your own sense of identifty is not strong enough or if you empathise with these groups completely then by all means call yourself a raver or whatever it is that you feel defines you. It all comes down to other peoples definitions- what was called a raver in '99 isn't called a raver in '03. I don't go to clubs regularly, go to the occasional event like EC and wear drab non brightly coloured clothes (except for my red hoodie) and practice responsible, informed recreational drug use- call me what you will but i still see myself in terms of my self constructed identity.
 
I always considered ravers and khandi kids the same thing..
 
I just read some of that old thread and was wondering why I never posted in it... thinking "man I wasn't a raver way back then, and I would have written some 1000word reply about the merits of the old bluelight term 'home roll' :)"
Then I remembered at that time I was spending 6weeks going to every rave I could whilst on holiday in the UK :)

Home rolls are still better for me. But each to their own. I prefer to pill in hotels or at home because it allows to create my own setting and control the atmosphere. I get so smashed off pills that I get uncomfortable if I'm out in a club or at a rave or something... but some peoples feed off the club atmosphere and almost need it to have a good pill.
 
hahahahaha

I only just saw this thread. man that was wierd reading through that old thread. bloody e_rep LOL

I'm still not a raver :p hehe

candyflip just don't tell anyone about our forays to transmission - surely that will blow our cover somewhat ;)
 
oh and for anyone who read the old thread - I did end up going to america and I did end up going to a couple of american raves. they were exactly how I thought they would be - full of fucked up kids with dummies and glowsticks. not my thing at all :\ e_rep could keep his rave scene lol

I still had a massively awesome time over there. ah memories :)
 
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