No micron filter? Here's a good way to filter pilters for IV

[funkee]

You need two syringes, cotton, drug, water.

1) Crush your DOC, add water, suck it up through a single piece of cotton as you normally would.

2) Pull the plunger out of your second syringe. Rip off small pieces of cotton, turning them into balls. Place them inside the barrel, and push them down to the bottom. Do it enough until they're about the 20 unit mark.

3) Add some water to the barrel with cottons. Push the water through using the plunger, to get the cottons wet, and compressed at the bottom. Otherwise when you add a liquid they will expand and create air pockets between them, making the filter less effective.

4) Pull the plunger out, and squirt the pill solution into the barrel with the cottons. Rinse out your original spoon/cap/cooker. Push the solution through the cottons and back into your cooker. Be careful not to bend the plunger one way or another. Straight down, using moderate force to avoid snapping it, until you have gotten most if not all the liquid through.

5) Rinse out your other syringe that originally held the liquid, to get rid of those dirty insolubles. Draw the solution back up (you can use a cotton if desired)

Note: Do not re-use the cottons in the barrel. The particles from the pill will harden the cotton and make them unusable. If you need to get the cottons out, the best way I found it to remove the needle (you can leave it off), pliers work best. Then straighten a metal wire coat hanger. It just narrow enough to fit, and push them out. You can rinse it, and reuse your filter in this manner.

An okay rule of thumb way to tell if you're solution is bootable, is if you can see the numbers on the other side of the barrel.

 

[The Young Geezer]

That´s Negrogesic´s infamous ¨bckloading¨method....I always reccomend this for anyone who´s gonna shoot pills and can´t get a micron, what I also did, and is reccomended on Negrogesic post is to cut small round pieces of coffee filter the dimeter of the syringe so you make layers of cotton-coffee filter-cotton-coffe filter, you get the point.

I HIGHLY RECCOMEND THIS METHOD OF FILTERING also known as ¨Backloading¨ not only for pills but also for some street drugs like cocaine or when filtering IV combos....tht´s it ntil your microns arrive in the mail, I must have injected easily hundreds of dormicum,oxys and other naughty stuff always backloading and now I quit IVing 2years ago my veins are all in perfect shape...not that I´m advocating shooting pills, at al, nor that backloding is as effective as a micron filter, but this is a harm reduction site and given the accesibility (even if you´re willing to spend)-waiting time involving these I think backloading is the best choice if you´re gonna be shooting opioid pills (except the 8mg Dilaudids maybe, though cold shake is so easy-tempting-rewarding think on the long run, it´s better to filter 40mg of hydromorph if you have 2mg pills and separate doses thn cold shaking multiple hits)- shady coke- shady amps,etc.

I always advice people to backload and trtied to found Negrogesic original post to link to where he describes the procedure in very good detail, but couldn´t find it. but yeah ça Backloading guide/FAQ would be a great idea for Harm Reduction´s safe, sometimes my microns came a month after I ordered (due tyo me being on another country, not due to the vendors fault) whilst other times they took 5 days to arrive, and damn if I wanted a dirty speedball of oc street coke and midazolam I´d sure as hell Backload the shit twice until it was transprent (not that transprency means anything regarding filtration results, but you get a comparative idea). Peace and Keep On Backloadin´!

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Is there something you can use to cut small circles out of coffee filter paper to the exact inside diameter of the syringe you're using (instead of trying to cut small perfect circles with a pair of scissors)?

 

[Desdenova]

Exacto knife?

 

[phr]

Hole puncher?

 

[sonic]

Last time my friends and I IMed ketamine we filtered the solution using this exact same technique as a safety precaution. It was good pure K lab tested, but it had been handled by us and we'd been snorting it so, foreign particles were visibly left behind after we filtered. We didn't follow the last step, we just put the K in a glass vial and then put that vial in some hot water for a while to sterilize it more. Then we each had new/clean syringes for injection.
I think this method is the way to go. If you tried doing the opposite of this without backloading the solution I doubt it'd work as well if at all.
I've never IVed pills, and hopefully never will, but if I was going to, I'd want to filter the solution a couple times with cotton before injecting. Ideally you could start off using this method with cotton and THEN use a micron filter on the semi-final product and be left with a very clean solution. It still doesn't make IVing pills "safe" but it's probably better than what most people are doing.

 

[stringtheory]

I don't IV at all, but I was wondering (as it seems logical) if anyone had tried backloading by cutting up medical face masks (2 micron, same as best micron filters) instead of coffee filters or using cotton? If the liquid still flows through, the benefits would seem to be very close to a micron filter without the expense.

 

[Medic11]

To cut the circles trace the diameter of the barrel with a pen on the first one and then stack the filters (the round discs work best for this) and use scissors to cut out the tiny circle...it works. I used about twenty discs for this and the solution was clear from roxi's- Hadn't heard of the cotton balls tho- thanks.

 

[a100unitSHOT]

I don't know... It sounds like a good way to get cotton fever. There seems like a bigger chance of a strand of cotton coming through the needle and into your vien.... No?

I know cotton fever isn't caused by the cotton its self, but by bacteria growing on the cotton plants. But acutally putting the cotton IN your syringe sounds like it would make cotton fever more likely. Please explain if I'm wrong and how....

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ I think you've misunderstood. I don't think you are actually supposed to inject using the syringe with filters placed inside.

 

[sonic]

Using sterile cotton is important. I stressed that initially, but I don't see it anywhere in my last post so I guess I accidentally deleted that part.

 

[keygen]

OP: now THAT is useful information +1

 

[Artificial Emotion]

I don't know... It sounds like a good way to get cotton fever. There seems like a bigger chance of a strand of cotton coming through the needle and into your vien.... No?

I know cotton fever isn't caused by the cotton its self, but by bacteria growing on the cotton plants. But acutally putting the cotton IN your syringe sounds like it would make cotton fever more likely. Please explain if I'm wrong and how....

From Wikipedia:

A condition very similar to cotton fever was described in the 18th century among cotton-mill workers. The term cotton fever was coined in 1975 after the syndrome was recognized in intravenous drug users. However, some sources have attributed the symptoms of cotton fever with simple sepsis occasioned by unsafe and unsanitary drug injection practices. This is borne out by the fact cotton fever occurs in equal spread with all injectable drug users, irrespective of if they used cotton as a filter or not.

Cotton fever is obviously due to bacterial contamination, so it wouldn't make much of a difference if a few cotton strands passed through the needle if the solution comes in contact with the cotton in the other barrel (you don't inject with the barrel containing cotton).

 

[BaybeX]

As this filter technique is a bit tedious, could the same filtering syringe be used more than once? Maybe after using the filter setup you could rinse it thoroughly with water or something.

[Lol @ this threads title.. Filter pilters.. hehehe. ]

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ Yes it can. Just be sure to do two things, which are very important so pay attention.

1. Clean out the syringe with bleach at least twice. This will kill bacterial contamination. Don't worry about the drug being tainted with bleach. As long as it's been rinsed out thoroughly with water it shouldn't be an issue. Very miniscule trace amounts of bleach injected are not likely to have any health implications. Even if a very small amount of bleach enters your bloodstream, it is better than have an infection/'dirt hit'.

2. Use brand new cotton/filter paper every time you filter. Moist cotton can be the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, so be careful not to get into the bad habit of reusing the cotton - it's not worth it even if it is more convenient. Also it is worth remembering that if you do the procedure correctly and press all the solution out of the cotton, the amount of drug left will be negligible and not worth risking your life over. It's better to safe than sorry.

 

[djsim]

I don't IV at all, but I was wondering (as it seems logical) if anyone had tried backloading by cutting up medical face masks (2 micron, same as best micron filters) instead of coffee filters or using cotton? If the liquid still flows through, the benefits would seem to be very close to a micron filter without the expense.

2 microns is HUGE
I have used micron filters many times (but only for filtering steroids) and the best ones for that are 0.45um, and the smallest pore size is 0.2um IIRC. So 2 microns is big. Coffee filters can be up to 10 microns IIRC, anyone know?

 

[djsim]

From Wikipedia:



Cotton fever is obviously due to bacterial contamination, so it wouldn't make much of a difference if a few cotton strands passed through the needle if the solution comes in contact with the cotton in the other barrel (you don't inject with the barrel containing cotton).

You're right.
My understanding of cotton fever is that it is bacteria in cotton already used for filtering (rather than inherent bacteria in the cotton)
I would always take what Wikipedia says with a grain of salt

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ Yes I completely agree. Unfortunately people have a tendency to stubbornly accept information as gospel from apparently credible sources such newspapers and online sources like Wikipedia. Unfortunately as many of us are aware, although these sources are generally reliable, this is what gives individuals a false sense of security and are not aware that some info can be incorrect or unreliable. Wikipedia generally provides accurate information but sometimes can provide bad information and people need to be aware of this when they use it as a source of information.

 

[stringtheory]

2 microns is HUGE
I have used micron filters many times (but only for filtering steroids) and the best ones for that are 0.45um, and the smallest pore size is 0.2um IIRC. So 2 microns is big. Coffee filters can be up to 10 microns IIRC, anyone know?

Sorry for not being more clear djsim. I used the 2 micron thing loosely as I didn't remember if it was .2 or .02 or .002, and whatever it was, it would be substantially better than the other materials being discussed in this thread. After checking, it turns out to be .3, but only 95% effective at that size. I don't know all the technical specs on how all the different filtration systems are classified but it seemed obvious that a cutup N95 mask would be much more efficient than merely coffee filters or layered cotton. The N95 mask will filter 95% of all particles .3 micron or larger. A true hepa filter will do better than 99% of the same size particles and I don't know exactly where the micron filters fall between these two specs.

In any event, it seems that if you used a few layers of this material, coupled with several layers of coffee filters or similar course filtering material, it would work rather well. Just another idea.

 

[fatality]

any good suggestions as to where or what website i can order micron filters from??