No Matter How Desperate You Get.....!!!!

[garuda]

Well ideally you want to use sterile distilled water, but failing that gatorade or tap water will work but aren't risk free. Never use from a bottle that has been drank from. Urine from a healthy person is sterile, it has some nasty substances but a few mls aren't gonna kill you.

Saliva is teeming with anaerobic bacteria that can cause horrible infection, peoples reluctance to perform oral sex is laughable considering how nasty the human mouth is. I can see why someone would make the mistake though thinking saliva is from your body.

 

[Junglistvibe]

Tap water also contains bacteria... I don't know about bottled water but I would guess it does too!

If you don't have sterile water you could take anything you find and add salt to kill the bacteria. I don't know for sure how much salt you need, IIRC 5% should be enough.

 

[hfrs]

If you don't have sterile water you could take anything you find and add salt to kill the bacteria. I don't know for sure how much salt you need, IIRC 5% should be enough.

If you are injecting, 5% is way, way too much salt. Salt alone won't kill bacteria. If you are trying to make saline, it should by 0.9% NaCl. It should be NaCl that does NOT contain iodine. Most table salt is iodinated and should NOT be used.

 

[garuda]

Tap water also contains bacteria... I don't know about bottled water but I would guess it does too!

Well its not ideal, but its fairly safe. Bacteria are present but not in dangerous amounts and not dangerous varieties, at least in modernized nations tap water is chlorinated which keeps it pretty clean until it comes out the tap.

If your tap water comes from a well you should probably boil it first, or for the impatient go pick up some water purification tablets at walmart.

 

[jasoncrest]

What about sweat?

Recently I prepared a shot while sweating, and a drop of sweat fell in my solution.
I still filtered it and injected it.

It was only one drop of sweat in 1ml water...

Is it something I should be concerned about?

 

[Syd_Barret]

I wasn't trying to offend the OP, but why couldn't he just use common sense and go and buy a bottle of water or go to a store and get some water out of a fucking water fountain. It was just hilarious to me that someone would actually think that shooting saliva would be a halfway decent idea.

Why couldn't he just use common sense?

Cause he obviously uses dope.. and has a habit...

Common sense goes out the window when someone has the itch for dope or is dope sick or whatever... when someone is craving their dope... get the fuck out of the way.

I had some friends in san antonio that used their own spit to shoot before.. I don't know how often they did it.. but they're fine so far... im guessing they don't do it often...

That shit is straight stupid though.

 

[nile420]

What about sweat?

Recently I prepared a shot while sweating, and a drop of sweat fell in my solution.
I still filtered it and injected it.

It was only one drop of sweat in 1ml water...

Is it something I should be concerned about?

I wouldn't worry about this at all, the most that can happen is you might get a burning sensation in the injection site.

one drop is nothing to be concerned about, i promise%)

 

[phr]

^
The sweat could pick up whatever bacteria is on your skin when it comes in contact with it. I'm not sure that sweat normally contains anything that could be harmful if iv'ed.

 

[zigzag| dta]

id imagine sweat isnt too cleam, especially since it rolled off your skin, and skin isnt exactly bacteria free.


but probably not as bad as saliva.

how long ago was this?

 

[garuda]

Its not as bad as saliva but still not a good idea, your skin can have all kinds of bacteria on it. You don't want to inject some Streptococcus pyogenes , you'll regret it.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/Necrotizing-Fasciitis-Flesh-Eating-Bacteria-Topic-Overview

 

[NJMuscle0519]

i appreciate SOME of you who understand that when your sick nothing really matters...for the other people who just acting like assholes about it, fuck off. If my post helps just one person not make the decision I made it could save a fuckin life. Yea, I wasn't thinking right at the time...but i'm alive to tell about it and hopefully taught someone a lesson.

 

[zigzag| dta]

^^ for real, he may have made a bad desperate choice, but after all this is a forum about drug safety.

 

[fastandbulbous]

I wouldn't worry about this at all, the most that can happen is you might get a burning sensation in the injection site.

one drop is nothing to be concerned about, i promise%)

Oh this is so wrong I feel I have to say something...

The body has a normal flora (bacteria) that occur on just about every external body surface (which technically includes the normal gut flora). Now just because a bacterial species is doing no harm where it normally occurs does not mean that it's totally harmless. Part of the normal flora are what are known as oppitune pathogens - an example being that you can get along quite happily with stretococcus species living in the mouth, but if it gets into the main blood circulation it becomes disaese forming (as the OP found out). The skin has a load of different bacteria living on it and some of them, such as Staphlococcus aureus (that normally lives in the upper respiritory tract, but gets onto the skin from hand/nose - hand/skin contact) are bastards if they get into the bloodstream, even though it's harmless living in the nose & skin. A drop of sweat can contain anything up to millions of bacteria, so allowing it to be injected can lead to some really ugly situations; S. aureus is the 'superbug' bacterium which could be the MRSA (methicillin resistant Staph aureus) strain. That kills a fair few people every year in the UK alone. Throughout the world it kills thousands every year.


So, anything other than sterile solutions injected into the bloodstream run the risk of resulting in a fatal infection. Don't make promises concerning subjects you've not looked into thouroughly, especially when it concerns a possible life threatening situation - you could just be responsible for a fatality in a worst case scenario

 

[hfrs]

i appreciate SOME of you who understand that when your sick nothing really matters...for the other people who just acting like assholes about it, fuck off. If my post helps just one person not make the decision I made it could save a fuckin life. Yea, I wasn't thinking right at the time...but i'm alive to tell about it and hopefully taught someone a lesson.

I'm really grateful you took the time to write out your experience. I do understand the point you can get to. Even knowing what I do, I can't say what I would or wouldn't do in a situation like that. You really don't know how you will handle it until you're in the middle of it, and then you aren't always thinking the clearest. There are so many posts around here where someone asks a question knowing what they want to do is dangerous, then will say "oh, I'm just doing it once - it can't be that bad". You gave a great example showing that all it takes is one wrong decision.

 

[halfalien_s4]

spitting in ur rig

I'm really grateful you took the time to write out your experience. I do understand the point you can get to. Even knowing what I do, I can't say what I would or wouldn't do in a situation like that. You really don't know how you will handle it until you're in the middle of it, and then you aren't always thinking the clearest. There are so many posts around here where someone asks a question knowing what they want to do is dangerous, then will say "oh, I'm just doing it once - it can't be that bad". You gave a great example showing that all it takes is one wrong decision.

i agree that im glad u had the guts to post ur expirience. as sopmeone who has been studying medicine and microbiology for sometime, i can tell u that ur spit definantly contains a lot of bacteria. and to be honest, ur extrememly lucky u didnt get bacterial menmingitis with septicemia on top of everything else. i never use needles, but ive had meningitis 3 times. im just getting over the 3rd time. but nessiria meninititis - also known as menningicoccol bateria, also lives in 10 percent of the population's mouth, and if it it gets into the blood, can cause something called fullmanating menningioccocemia, or basicically, meningitis with bllod poisioning. ive seen it kill in as little as 8 hrs. its starts out like the flu. u have lower back and leg pain, fever (sometimes very high accociated by siezures), a migrain-type headache thats constant, a stiff neck, back or shoulders (not always tho), and most people also have a lot of nausea/vomiting and/or diarreah. once it takes hold u will notice a pin-prick rash in various places that will spread and become blotchy and start to look like bruises all over u, as ur bllod vessle are actually all rupturing and hemmorhaging beneath the skin. if this ever happens to any of u, after uve taken a shot (or even otherwise) get to the hospital IMMEDIATLY. its best to get there when u first start feeling the headache and stiff neck, or fever and vomiting with unrelenting leg pain. and dont let the docs scare u off! push them until they give u a spinal tap. it could save ur life. endocarditis is another disease that can also lead to eather septicemia itself, or both meningitis & septicemia, usually caused by strep, staph, or even possibly (but rare) e. coli. so if u shoot up and start noticing chest pains....also get to the er IMMEDIATELY. tryust me tho...meningitis is NO picnic. i hope by telling u all this, u will be more informed about the germs u are putting into ur body everytime u shoot up anything. hope i have been helpful!

 

[NJMuscle0519]

halfalien,
great info bro...I hope people listen and learn from all that. When I first went in the hospital I was able to walk fine and move around. But within 2 hours after being admitted, my knees, fingers and wrists swelled up and hurt more than I can even explain. It was horrible. Then my entire chest felt like a 300lb guy was sitting on it. I couldn't take deep breaths because abcess' started forming on both my lungs. The doctors told me if I waited another day to come in, I wouldv'e died. On top of all that, I was kicking dope without ANYTHING to help (after 2 days they finally gave in and gave me methadone and a few shots of morphine to help). The first night they tried to give me a spinal tap but it was unsucessful. They had the friggin 4 inch needle in my spine but they couldn't find the right spot for the fluid to drain so they stopped and had to do it again they next day. I had to go through some rough experiences while I was in there...some really wacked out shit. I was discharged on July 17th and I had to goto an outpatient clinic for IV antibiotics and today was the last day of it. They couldn't leave the pic line in (bc they obviously knew I was an IV drug user and they can't be held responsible leaving that in...that wouldv'e been fuckin amazing though) so I had to get stuck with a new IV everyday. It was a pain but it was for the best so whatever. Anyway, I'm not gonna keep rambling so everyone be safe and learn from these mistakes.

Good Luck and Be Safe

J