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Stimulants No fun from Amphetamines...

Sex Panther

Sex Panther

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I've asked this question of many people, lifetime addicts, doctors, chemists, even pharmacology post-grad students. They don't have an answer. I've created precious few threads, i.e I think none at all. Hopefully this will be a good first. I'm a long time bluelighter, sans posting :).

I'm still under the impression that if you inject 80mg of methylphenidate, 50mg of methamphetamine, or 100mg of normal speed, you should get a awesome kick. But for the past year or more, that has not been the case.

I have recently experienced little to no pleasurable effects from amphetamines. its almost as if i
m...burned out.

The first time I had an amphetamine, I snorted 10mg of dex. Completely typical experience. Spitting cotton, endless train of thoughts, expansive feelings of care and compassion, the urge to call on people I haven't spoken to in years, people I don't like or even respect. You know the usual.

I used amps on and off, trying methamphetamine IV when I couldn't score gear. The first time was mind-blowing, of course. Although subsequent shots weren't a scratch on the first, they still gave a mighty kick. As you'd expect from *snip - no prices* of ice mainlined.

After about 2-3 times using methamphetamine, I took dex again. I filtered and mainlined the equivalent of 80mg. I had realistic expectations after methamphetamine. The dex gave me a rush, but this rush wasn't was a huge anticlimax, a physically intense experience, but without much pleasure at all. Frankly, it wasn't unpleasant, but it wasn't pleasurable by any objective means. Disappointed, I gave myself the month-break between amps as is my custom, and bought *snip - no prices* of methamphetamine.

I mainlined 4/5ths of the deal.

The only amp-typical thing it did to me was keep me up for one and a half days. The rush was similar to dex, physically intense, but without any real pleasure. Amps used to change me, make me more confident, motivated, passionate. They don't do it anymore. On the contrary, Amps have an almost depressant action on me. Not physically, but mentally. I regret banging it after 5 minutes, not 5 hours, like before. My motivation is a roller-coaster. I used to love doing productive things on Amps, writing, exploring, as you do. Now I just sit on the computer and fuck around the house.

Has anyone ever experienced anything similar? Not just a tolerance to amphetamines, but a marked, chemical or physical change in your response to dosing? I don't understand, I always have a long break between dosages, I've never used habitually, and i've gotten really good stuff. Where is the pleasure? Where is the kick? Even ecstacy pills make me antsy, moody and depressed.

Also last thing, without amphetamines, my mood is fine. cheery by personality i suppose.

Thanks
 
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^^

as in, without habitual use?

because it does seem like a tolerance, but more to the mental effects. physically, amphetamines affect me much the same as always. after 2 years use, i still am up for 36 hours after dosing.
 
I find with meth that my tolerance may go away for a day or two after a break, but the euphoria never comes back. The rush and stimulation on the other hand are intense after a break.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Methamphetamine is not as pleasurable as heroin, LSD, or MDA, MDMA, etc.

Some people would disagree with me, but that's just my 2 cents.
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I absolutely agree. When all is said and done, heroin is hands-down the most enjoyable drug. I actually only get methamphetamine when I can't get gear!

I'm sure others would disagree, but I think the cost/benefit of habitual heroin use frankly shits on the relative, wider cost/benefit of methamphetamine.

Though, I don't think heroin is a scratch on my very first methamphetamine experience. The first time I tried ice, i was actually scoring for gear!
We waited for 3 and a half hours, and it turns out the guy thought gear = ice. Anyway, crazy night.

It just upsets me that, not only can I not enjoy ice, but no other amphetamines either. Which, frankly, sucks, because i've got a gram of Methylphenidate Hcl on script for *snip - no prices* per month. I generally take it as prescribed, but still...
 
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I was taking Big shots of M amph and it wasnt doing anything for me. Take a break(i did for about 3months ) and i noticed the euphoria and stim effect was strong at the doses was using before.
You just may need a few month break to let your neurotransmitters do some "healing."
 
^^ are you serious? this is a thread regarding amphetamines,

although i somewhat understand, regarding the direction the discussion went, doesn't the premise of the thread's creation dictate its location? pm me if necessary.
 
The premise of the thread dictates the location if your thread is asking a harm reduction question. Since you're just talking about having fun on amphetamines, which is not a harm reduction question but more of a social one, I moved it into the social forum.
 
yeah, but i have taken breaks of 3 months or more, even, in the 2-3 years of using amphetamines.

perhaps its just my personal brain chemistry.

I know everyone reacts differently, and it appears, at least for the next year or two, i've wrung, and rewrung (quite literally considering the dodgy amphetamine preparations i've dosed in the past) all of the pleasure out of amphetamines.
 
If you'd like, I'm happy to move it back to Other Drugs, but I can't promise the moderating staff there will allow this thread to remain open for the reasons I outlined in my earlier post. Amphetamine tolerance is a long-lasting one.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
If you'd like, I'm happy to move it back to Other Drugs, but I can't promise the moderating staff there will allow this thread to remain open for the reasons I outlined in my earlier post. Amphetamine tolerance is a long-lasting one.
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ok, i understand, thanks. and my bad about prices, its common knowledge anyway.

But, i just think that drug culture would not do the thread justice. This thread has information regarding the loss of potency of amphetamines, and I could argue that it does have harm reduction value. Perhaps people wouldn't take them, if they knew that it simply wouldn't be worth it? I think the forum guidelines do make your point, but bluelight custom makes mine?

Anyway, when you say amphetamine tolerance is a long one, do you mean subjectively, or a clear, quantifiable tolerance to the serotonergic and dopaminergic effects?
 
There is a clear tolerance that develops with amphetamines.

I'm going to move this back to Other Drugs. Sometimes threads really do make sense in two forums. We'll see how it does in OD and if you don't get the answers you're looking for there we can make a decision from that point.
 
I am experiencing something kind of similar. I assumed it was just from tolerance and length of non-stop usage, but once in awhile I'll get the really good rush and euphoria again.

Lately, I know I am 'high,' I stay up and awake with little problem, I still 'tweak' (get stuck on stuff for way too long) but yet, my mood isn't lifted really as often and that excited/nervous/happy jitter feeling only comes around occasionally. I switch between nasal, rectal and vapor ROA's. I refuse to IV and I don't do well with oral because of stomach issues. My usage is at approximately .2g x day. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. Lately though, rarely less unless I'm occupied and busy as hell.

I'd cut off a pinky just to get a good 'bell-ringer,' yanno???!?!
 
humans are so adaptive.
once we're accustomed to something..
it usually loses it's magic.

in certain ways..i feel like this would be a blessing..
if opiates stop working for me..the way amps seem to for you, op.

i'd probably cry, though.

i have no point. sorry.
 
I feel like this is what causes the stair step process of smoking to injecting.

Never saw amps as a "fun" drug though.
 
tokenname said:
humans are so adaptive.
once we're accustomed to something..
it usually loses it's magic.

in certain ways..i feel like this would be a blessing..
if opiates stop working for me..the way amps seem to for you, op.

i'd probably cry, though.

i have no point. sorry.
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don't worry, i think opiate tolerance is pretty forgiving.
as i mentioned to the captain, you get out what you put in. not so with amphetamines.

and don't worry, your post read like a poem :)

and littlepenguin, it'll be fine. just remember, stay way from the needle, not because its so awesome that you won't want to stop, but because you'll lose that pleasure FAST.

also RE, i know what you're saying, but the first time i tried a real stimulant i mainlined it. i never had any benchmark to compare it to. same with heroin, actually. first time i ever touched an opiate, and i shot it up.
 
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