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NN-DMT dose advice.

webbykevin

webbykevin

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If you have some real nn-dmt, not 5meo but the real elves spice, but you have no scales, ( I would estimate I have about 1.5 points if I was looking at speed but don't know if dmt is heavier or lighter by volume than other things). I have read on a few threads and forums that its safe to overload the dmt machine because you will just smoke enough needed to breakthrough and that will naturally mean you stop toking.

is this safe ?

i mean it sounds logical in some ways but a tad reckless as well.

I have a reasonable idea of what 50mg should look like (about the size of a match head ?) but I have waited so long for this experience to present itself that I do not want to underdose, I want to see the elves, it will perhaps be my only chance, So the method of just loading it up and not worrying if you are heaps over 50mg because you wont be able to keep chuffing all that anyway but will pass out at the breakthrough dose I really like the idea.

I do not want to waste this experience.

But I am open to being sternly talked out of it if any of you feel that strongly about the foolishness of this idea.

Any advice on how to get the most out of this unique and rare opportunity would be greatly appreciated.

thanks people
 
It's basically impossible to be sure of n,n, DMT weight by eyeballing it. The extraction process can leave varying amounts of plant impurities, various crystal sizes & densities, etc. Nevertheless, if you're positive it's NOT 5-MeO-DMT then you shouldn't have a problem. IME a minimum of 50mg is needed to achieve effects so 1.5 to 2 times this amount should get you where you want to go.

Your description of 'about the size of a matchhead' for 50mg sounds too small, but I guess if the DMT was very finely ground, it may be close. The extractions I've experienced have not been completely pure because repeated cleanings and recrystalizations were not performed due to the small amount to start with, which resulted in product being very sticky and clumpy. If compressed, 50mg was probably more like the size of a Tic-Tac.

Enjoy!
 
you'll be fine, many of my experiences have been big eye balled doses, quite wreck lace but its been absolutely beautifully amazing. very forgiving substance
 
I've never seen any elves and I've taken enough to put a charging rhino down.
 
Are you're sure it's not just because a lot of gullible people have read Terence Mckenna saying it?
 
ive never seen elves either, but ive seen much crazier things which i really cant explain
 
ColtDan said:
ive never seen elves either, but ive seen much crazier things which i really cant explain
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Me either, i only wish i had the creative writing capabilities to describe everything else i've seen.. seems to move me into pure unrestricted consciousness.
 
start of the trip i always feel like im flying a rocket speed through some liquid electric holographic field full of amazing geometric stuff, in the relm of a majestic beautiful powerful Egyptian/aztec Godess whos dancing for me using objects and colors, and manipulating the trip, all boundarys disappear, if the dose is high enough i hit ego death, fucking amazing stuff beyond all comprehension. shocks me up when i return, end up shaking and giggling like a nutter for a few minutes after. ride of my life
 
I would be careful with dosing, with large doses there is the possibility of blacking out during the trip and not remembering anything. Start small and build up accordingly. I know you don't want to waste any, but its better to waste 10-30mgs to test the waters then to waste 70+ mgs and not remember any of it. If you think you can reasonably eye out 50mgs, i would say eye that out then do half, to make sure your guess was right.
 
Thanks heaps for the advice guys, yes i am 100% sure its NN not 5meo, I took the advice and tried a small amount (about 25mg i guess) just to make sure I was not going to die or loose my mind on a larger dose, got some streaming and lots of fractals and could hear a buzz like a swarm of bees, then it all faded.

So i'll just load up the lot next time and go for the full effective breakthrough dose.

thanks again for the input and encouragement.

webby
 
IME cool fractal and geometric visuals are a major part of the trip. But if I take a really big rip I often see simian or hominid creatures (often very alien) or at least feel that they are present in my headspace. I'm just as skeptic of McKenna's ravings, but seeing beings is a common occurrence on DMT for many people.
 
ColtDan said:
shocks me up when i return, end up shaking
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And here i was thinking this only happened to me, i always shake uncontrollably when i return.. like a delayed shock to the system. I only tried it again recently after breaking-through hardcore on a massive dose a couple of years ago that i needed a lot of time to integrate, this recent time was the first time i ever used music with the experience.. it really adds a whole new dimension to the experience, the music seems to take on an intelligence of own and manipulate the dimensions of my awareness.

Its a bizarre but strangely familiar presence of being; and my own spirituality may have had a hand in this.. but towards the end of what felt like a cosmic explosion all i saw myself as was Buddha nature, consciousness spiraling out of my head into eternal white light.
 
sounds like what ive experienced =D shook me to the core. changed my outlook on everything i take for granted, life, myself, everything. eye opening

awhile after that i would get pre-flight anxiety pretty bad, used to take me ages to build up the nerve to hit the pipe again... would sit and breathe deeply, pray (im not religious), and do all kinds of shit, it was like my body was preparing me for something major
 
ColtDan said:
awhile after that i would get pre-flight anxiety pretty bad, used to take me ages to build up the nerve to hit the pipe again... would sit and breathe deeply, pray (im not religious), and do all kinds of shit, it was like my body was preparing me for something major
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Yeah I always get pre-blastoff anxiety as well. It's like my body and mind anticipate a massive change in consciousness, and I get all nervous and start to shake and tremble.
 
I recentlt got about .2g of n,n,dmt and have never tried it before so i put what i reckon to be about 10mg on foil and smoked through a tube (Im use to tghis method as i smoke h this way) as i exhaled everything went wobbly and so shut my eyes and just had streaming lights and fractals it was amazing - i opened my eyes a couple of times and the room looked normal but as soon as I closed them i was back to this beautiful light show and in the middle i would glimpes very quickly a 'being' only for a nano second kind of peering at me. I cant wait to up the dose but 50mgs or x5 what i took is a little scary i guess its strong (very fine beige powder) and the smoke didnt tastes that bad - not nice but acceptable.
 
I've haven't used scales for DMT in about 5 years. Essentially, the most you can smoke is how much you should. Then again, after your familiar with DMT its not especially frightening as much as joyful and exciting, so I would usually smoke 100mg in maybe 3-4 big ass tokes (by the last toke I would be pretty much flying...)
 
willow11 said:
I've haven't used scales for DMT in about 5 years. Essentially, the most you can smoke is how much you should. Then again, after your familiar with DMT its not especially frightening as much as joyful and exciting, so I would usually smoke 100mg in maybe 3-4 big ass tokes (by the last toke I would be pretty much flying...)
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this is my philosophy on dosing DMT also. its not going to hurt you so smoke as much as your ego can handle before it dissolves ;)
also known as the "smoke it until you dont know what smoking is" method.
 
bloody hell... by the second toke im pretty much gone and the pipe is dropped, getting to 4 tokes must take some serious doing
 
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