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So it sounds like a psychedelic experience minus sensory input...or am I way off there?

I have to admit it, you've got the hook in me now, I'm reading about John Lilly now too.

It's much different feeling from a traditional serotonergic psych (like LSD). LSD and the traditional psyches feel very 'mental'... You are fully aware that you are a human being experiencing an internal psychedelic experience.

Ketamine is VERY physical. It feels like you are actually going places. In a true K-hole, you will not know you are a human being experiencing an internal experience. You will feel like there is no such thing as 'an individual being'. You will feel like everything that exists is part of you, and you are a part of everything that exists. And while LSD to make you think about that... ketamine will make you feel that. Its like taking it to another level. (Thats my take on it, at least).

Its very hard to put into words, but one of the best ways it can be communicated is... it will feel like no other experience you've had =D

The closest feeling I can think of to a K-hole would be an EXTREME dose (1.5g +) DXM trip. Its like you cease to exist, but somehow live to experience that, which at least for me, is an invaluable experience.
 
In a true K-hole, you will not know you are a human being experiencing an internal experience. You will feel like there is no such thing as 'an individual being'. You will feel like everything that exists is part of you, and you are a part of everything that exists.

I've had a few peak LSD experiences that felt like this :)

I am now very interested indeed.
 
I would love to try MXE.. this is my first time in a LOOOONNNGGGG time with K

like I said.. I so excite =D

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Bro you look soo much like my friend Micheal Norkus from southern florida, its tripping me out hardcore right now.
 
C.H - I don't think any of my doctors/ nurses have ever hit a nerve, yet it always hurts somewhat, and I know for certain I never have. I think when IV'ing drugs, my brain just knows to prepare for that "rush".

and NT - that is probably a good idea. I definitely have a small addiction to putting shit up my nose, and although I've probably only done like 20 shots or less, I am already at a point where even though I am out of drugs, I could go draw up some water and start tying off and I would start rushing just from the anticipation.
 
The way you described it ektamine makes it seem like Salvia in a way? More euphoric I'd imagine but are they somewhat similar?
With MXE I railed it with 10mg lines...never came close to a "hole" but it felt euphoric, third eye opening in many ways, and made me enjoy listening to music on an uber level.
 
C.H - I don't think any of my doctors/ nurses have ever hit a nerve, yet it always hurts somewhat, and I know for certain I never have. I think when IV'ing drugs, my brain just knows to prepare for that "rush".

and NT - that is probably a good idea. I definitely have a small addiction to putting shit up my nose, and although I've probably only done like 20 shots or less, I am already at a point where even though I am out of drugs, I could go draw up some water and start tying off and I would start rushing just from the anticipation.

Yeah dude, that's what I'm worried about, I get a rush crushing up pills and cutting lines and doing the whole ritual, its something I'm trying to get away from (and having these Buprenex setups is helping a lot with that, but I only have one left and I'm still in a lot of pain, so I may end up snorting the last of my bupe powder on top of it...)

I have mad respect for C.H, I looked at IVing in a completely different light until I met him.

Captain, you are the man with the plan. You've done so much for IV HR and HR in general. :)
 
The way you described it ektamine makes it seem like Salvia in a way? More euphoric I'd imagine but are they somewhat similar?
With MXE I railed it with 10mg lines...never came close to a "hole" but it felt euphoric, third eye opening in many ways, and made me enjoy listening to music on an uber level.

No no, its nothing like salvia.

The feeling is pretty much inconceivable until you experience it.


The best way to try and imagine what it feels like is think about how it works in your psyche. What it does, literally, is cut off all sensory input from your brain, in other words completely separating mind from body.

If everything you ever knew is gone, but you're still awake.... you're in the k-hole ;)

Without *any* sensory input, you won't feel like an individual being what-so-ever. Complete ego-death. No more 'you'.

Keep in mind that nothing else really cuts off your sensory input like that. On salvia, you still feel that you have a body, even if you cant control it. You still see patterns and colors and light, you can hear sounds, etc. When every last bit of that input is removed, theres nothing left but what feels to me, like a universal consciousness.

Like I said it probably sounds like crazy talk, but if you re-read this after you've successfully holed, I think it will probably make a lot of sense.
 
Ektamine, that makes sense and sounds like about what one can achieve through serious No2 or ether abuse, although ket is probably even more intense.

Also, the couple of times I have dissociated on psychs and whippits/ ether, it has seemed like I was outside my body FOREVER, so I don't know how I could handle an hour long K-hole.
 
^I was about to ask about that, how is the time distortion on K? Is it like other psychedelics/high doses of good weed or something different?

I notice Swerlz isn't online anymore...I bet he's enjoying himself :)
 
Trust me ektamine...that is FAR from crazy talk. You should see me when I start to feel the need to describe certain aspects of psychedelics ;) Like transformers...more than meets the eye.........
 
snort the solution - it usually absorbs more quickly and will have a higher BA than powder.

Gah - Suboxone is the only drug I cannot snort - the moment I do, I puke, no matter what. I think it's the flavoring.
 
quoted for truth.

I fuckin love the guy.

NT- why don't you try "waterlining" the solution since you are low and want the BA boost?

Yes I must third this....Captain is amazing. I tell him as often as I can because some people just really make you happy to be alive sometimes. Another beautiful soul(besides all of you of course) is Laika..once you guys get to know him longer you will see what I mean. Of course Swerlz has known him quite a bit longer than me.
 
I feel very "at peace" with being on bluelight because I know that it is actually helping people and preventing suffering due to people like you and Laika and Swerlz and CH and Cane, as opposed to just being a place to talk about drugs.

Edit: I never heard waterlining either until I was on here. I always just called it snortin drugs in water. Funny story - one time a friend and i ran out of dope so we put our 3 or 4 razor blades in a pill bottle with water, shook for 5 minutes, poured out the water and evapped it on low heat, and ended up with like .1 of powder which when split absolutely fucking rocked both of us.
 
I feel very "at peace" with being on bluelight because I know that it is actually helping people and preventing suffering due to people like you and Laika and Swerlz and CH and Cane, as opposed to just being a place to talk about drugs.

Edit: I never heard waterlining either until I was on here. I always just called it snortin drugs in water. Funny story - one time a friend and i ran out of dope so we put our 3 or 4 razor blades in a pill bottle with water, shook for 5 minutes, poured out the water and evapped it on low heat, and ended up with like .1 of powder which when split absolutely fucking rocked both of us.

^That's nuts. I ended up just snorting the last of my crushed up Suboxone tablet instead. I'm really trying to hold onto these last solution-filled syringes for emergencies, and even though I feel thinking today is an emergency, I then remember that I have lorazepam that is finally making an appearance and that I took some NSAIDs that are starting to work as well.

muvolution, I am with you on this 100%. Bluelight did originally start out as a place to talk about doing drugs for me, but once I got to know the people on here, it became more and more of a true community; which is something that I don't think is the case with other drug boards. Y'all are good people and I know you got my back and I got yours. :D
 
Well said muv....I feel that because this site is all about Harm Reduction, it stands apart from others like it. People on here(for the most part) really do care. I care about everyone I have come in contact with....even more with those who need help understanding this life and even though none of us really "knows" there is beauty to be found in all of us being connected through the internet.
 
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