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Its seriously something special..... I gave some to a friend to try to help her out cuz she was in withdrawals from fentanyl methadone and dilaudid... and I think benzos too.... and she said the withdrawals disappeared.... and she is like a new person now she's off the dope now.....
 
i don't shit about all these new drugs. and i am too fucked up to look up what it is.

i have 1 cigarette left-well 1 clove left and a couple of butts that are smokable. then i have to resort back to my old brand camel wides. i have a bad ass E-cig-i cant wait til my new cartiges come in. i love my e-cig. lurve it!
 
CLOVE??? GIMMEEE!!! lol Fucking Barrack OSAMA outlawed my favorite cigs when that... uh bastard SMOKES HIMSELF. Fucking liberal hypocrites.

Sorry lol
 
I totally feel you there.... but my perspective is more along the lines of chemistry, science, and biology.....
-Everything is a poison if you take enough
-Everything is safe in a small enough dose
But then there's the anomalies.... and the allergic reactions and such....
Its all dangerous... research chems are much less likely to be adulturated than street drugs....
Life is dangerous... but we manage.... for a while...
What we really need to do is stop pointing fingers at things and saying they're bad...
Education is good....
Communication is good....
Honesty is good..
Fear isn't tho.... fear is just extreme misunderstanding imo....
 
nuttynutskin said:
CLOVE??? GIMMEEE!!! lol Fucking Barrack OSAMA outlawed my favorite cigs when that... uh bastard SMOKES HIMSELF. Fucking liberal hypocrites.

Sorry lol
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Pretty sure you can still get cloves in cigar form. I had a Djarum djust recently. And you do realize that the president only ratifies laws, he doesn't pass them? Blame your congressional representatives, not the prez.
 
Chemically Insane said:
I totally feel you there.... but my perspective is more along the lines of chemistry, science, and biology.....
-Everything is a poison if you take enough
-Everything is safe in a small enough dose
But then there's the anomalies.... and the allergic reactions and such....
Its all dangerous... research chems are much less likely to be adulturated than street drugs....
Life is dangerous... but we manage.... for a while...
What we really need to do is stop pointing fingers at things and saying they're bad...
Education is good....
Communication is good....
Honesty is good..
Fear isn't tho.... fear is just extreme misunderstanding imo....
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Everything is safe in a small enough dose? I certainly don't agree with that at all. But the problem isn't even whether it's safe or not, it's that not enough is known about these chemicals. People are using new drugs that don't have a history of human use and have not been significantly tested and some are having bad side effects or worse.

From Erowid...

Chemicals marked on Erowid by our Research Chemical Symbol should be considered experimental chemicals. Although some people are willing to ingest these chemicals for their effects, it is not reasonable to assume that these chemicals are in any way 'safe' to use recreationally. Although all psychoactive use involves risk, this class of chemicals has undergone virtually no human or animal toxicity studies and there is little to no data on possible long term problems, addiction potential, allergic reactions, or acute overdoses.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/research_chems.shtml
 
the necropolitan said:
Pretty sure you can still get cloves in cigar form. I had a Djarum djust recently. And you do realize that the president only ratifies laws, he doesn't pass them? Blame your congressional representatives, not the prez.
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Yea I know you can still get the cigars but I WANT THE CIGS GODDAMNIT!!! And FYI that traitor Barack Osama SIGNED THE FUCKING BILL TO OUTLAW FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS OTHER THAN MENTHOLS SINCE MENTHOLS ARE PRODUCED BY BIG TOBACCO CUNTPANIES WHO ALSO FUND THE GOVERNMENT!!! JUST ONE MORE RIGHT BEING STRIPPED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! And besides that, the HE HIMSELF SMOKES!!!

Any questions? lol
 
nuttynutskin said:
Yea I know you can still get the cigars but I WANT THE CIGS GODDAMNIT!!! And FYI that traitor Barack Osama SIGNED THE FUCKING BILL TO OUTLAW FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS OTHER THAN MENTHOLS SINCE MENTHOLS ARE PRODUCED BY BIG TOBACCO COMPANIES WHO ALSO FUND THE GOVERNMENT!!! JUST ONE MORE RIGHT BEING STRIPPED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! And besides that, the HE HIMSELF SMOKES!!!

Any questions? lol
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What did he betray aside from big tobacco? Vetoing a law with such widespread popular support wouldn't have done shit, plus I'm pretty sure he announced his intention to support anti-tobacco legislation prior to election, on the grounds that he was trying to quit smoking.

obama's the ultimate troll...get into it! I don't even mind paying more for cigarettes cuz I know it's all for the lulz.
 
the necropolitan said:
What did he betray aside from big tobacco?
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HE DIDN'T BETRAY BIG TOBACCO HE DECREASED IT'S COMPETITION!!! ANYTHING TO PREVENT ANY PROFIT LOSSES TO GOVERNMENT FUNDING!!! IF ANYONE THINKS FOR ONE MINUTE ITS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY FROM CHILDREN SMOKING FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS YOU'RE DEAD WRONG!!! IF YOUR KIDS GET CANCER IT BETTER BE FROM PHILLIP MORRIS!!!

=D

Brb need a smoke.
 
nuttynutskin said:
HE DIDN'T BETRAY BIG TOBACCO HE DECREASED IT'S COMPETITION!!! ANYTHING TO PREVENT ANY PROFIT LOSSES TO GOVERNMENT FUNDING!!! IF ANYONE THINKS FOR ONE MINUTE ITS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY FROM CHILDREN SMOKING FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS YOU'RE DEAD WRONG!!! IF YOUR KIDS GET CANCER IT BETTER BE FROM PHILLIP MORRIS!!!

=D

Brb need a smoke.
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How? I don't see RJR goin outta business anytime soon, and it's more or less just those two.

You gotta get into the whole smokin' indoors thing, man! Saves you time and internets.
 
nuttynutskin said:
Well by some of my other posts I probably don't need to repeat what I think about rcs. If someone wants to take these untested things and act as a human guinea pig fine, but I wouldn't go around recommending it.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=9105619&postcount=164
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That was probably more the MDAI's fault. He did a very reckless act. I wouldn't shun away hard work and carefully created substances because of some people's foolishness.
You're judging books by their cover, sir.


nuttynutskin said:
Fuck that shit, might as well just do pcp.
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Outlandish remarks. le sigh...


To C I - I really appreciate your posts man and standing up for harm reduction at ektamine's memorial. You're a highly respectable fella. :) <3
 
the necropolitan said:
How? I don't see RJR goin outta business anytime soon, and it's more or less just those two.

You gotta get into the whole smokin' indoors thing, man! Saves you time and internets.
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Lol that's what I was saying!!! Let me try to explain one more time...

1. The government outlaws flavored tobacco.

2. This increases big tobacco's monopoly over the market.

3. This in turn ensures that the government won't lose any funding from big tobacco.
 
nuttynutskin said:
Let me try to explain one more time...

1. The government outlaws flavored tobacco.
2. This increases big tobacco's monopoly over the market.
3. This in turn ensures that the government won't lose any funding from big tobacco.
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Since when were you under the impression that small businessmen profited from flavored tobacco?

Haha get on aim bro
 
Laika said:
Outlandish remarks. le sigh...


To C I - I really appreciate your posts man and standing up for harm reduction at ektamine's memorial. You're a highly respectable fella. :) <3
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Why is it outlandish? With pcp most people know what the bad side effects and problems are. With all these new chemicals popping up people don't even know what they're ingesting. I'm surprised how nonchalant people are about it on here, especially in light of recent events. Like I already said if someone chooses to be a human guinea pig fine, but I wouldn't recommend it for others to try.
 
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nuttynutskin said:
Why is it outlandish? With pcp most people know what the bad side effects and problems are. With all these new chemicals popping up people don't even know what they're ingesting. I'm surprised how nonchalant people are about it on here, especially in light of recent events.
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But maybe perhaps a portion of the people ingesting these new chemicals actually do in fact know what it is that they're taking.

You're reading a horror story.
Have you read any of the other data on Methoxetamine?
"Fuck that shit, just do PCP" as a comment reflects that of one who hasn't been paying attention to it and is just throwing it under an umbrella of "bad."

Hence why I think you're judging a book by it's cover.
 
I'm not judging a book by it's cover tho, I'm judging it from how many people have problems from using some rcs on here, and other articles that I've read. I personally don't give a flying fuck if someone wants to huff gasoline for 5 hours straight and drive off a cliff, but I don't think it's something that should be recommended. Just like I don't think that a chemical that hasn't been well researched should be. I'm not saying all rcs are bad, I'm saying I DON'T THINK IT'S ADVISABLE TO RECOMMEND THEM TO SOMEONE.
 
sorry i nodded so hard 1st i flung forward dropping my laptop...then i jerked backwards and hit my head on the wal...bwahahaha-that is hilarious. whoo-i am glad you guys love me or else i'd feel like a dork.no i wouldn't,i'd still think it's hilarious.
after that i decided to nap until i had to pee.
fuck i am such a lady. lmao
 
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