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(Nitrous Oxide) - Experienced - Life Changing Problems

TheMerryPrankster said:
But as we all know - the profundity of Nitrous is fleeting, and after the epiphony it fades so quickjly that one can't quite remember what it was that one was thinking - and why it was so funny. This, I found to be the curse of Nitrous - to have this understanding - so plain and simple - even expressible in mere words - if I could find them - or once found, if I could not lose them. How, I wondered, can we extend this experience - make the come down slower so that it would be possible to bring back some of this universal intrinsic truth to the real world.
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That explains the feeling really well
 
Whoa, that was an intense report for sure.

Still no sign anymore of the OP? :( Granted, it's been 11 years but this device/ship really intrigues me as the dissonaut that I am.

While I currently, off stronger NMDA antagonists, don't have too much access to that world, it's memories and features (there indeed is a huge state dependent memory with dissos and all of them have plateaus, a bit different than these of DXM but a good part of White's FAQ is more or less applicable to dissos in general.), this will become a rather short posting. But I fully understand the feelings of the OP from my own experiences with DXM, MXE, K and 2F-/DCK. While N2O apparently isn't just a NMDA antagonist, and I only tried it once - after reading this here, I'll have been much too focused on breathing enough oxygen that I didn't reach effective levels of the gas very probably. But it all sounds so much similar to specially DCK. The understanding of it all, the love, the incredible meaning and devotion, the loneliness with all (even when I can't truly imagine how it must have felt w/o the internet, not knowing about just a single other gasonaut), the desire to invite others into the dissoverse, the acquired control and influencing / potentiating / leading the experience with music, light etc.. Oh, and too the addiction. People seeing and judging that.. spiritual hobby research.. as obsession, addiction and/or self harm.

But thought the mechanism of N2O was known and would be primarily NMDA antagonism? GABA activity does water down the experience. Opioid can be synergetic.

Was curious about the other way round of combining DCK with a psychedelic and particularly DMT, or Salvia but was too afraid of potential anxiety based on bad shroom trips many years ago. Until recently when I read here that not only does possibly the combination lower the risk of anxiety but even scientific papers suggest that the DMT (or psilocybin) actually protects against possible toxicity of the disso..

DCK alone was exciting enough and I can only speculate based on trip reports about how it must be and feel combined with psychedelics but I guess amazing.
I am unsure about the character of this 'understanding the universe' thingy. It is more a feeling than knowledge, but too a mix of both. But if you really could bring something like evidence over in our everyday reality. I have briefly experienced emotional telepathy, possibly but not really sure about, verbal too. Many things tend to feel possible but I know the scientists say it's all just on your head. I don't necessarily identify 1:1 with this, some reports say you could meet entities or beings in the dissoverse and many about DMT but up to now I always was the only ecistence there. With the relative absence of many negative emotions and them being replace with love, peace and hypomania, it doesn't feel lonely the way it does while sober and is amazing enough but being able to enter this space together with somebody else or even to meet others there would be fantastic (and when hearing / reading about e.g. schamans I wonder how far they actually manage to go in these spaces. Things sound very similar enough to well possibly be different ways and approaches leading to the same destinations.)

And it would be so great if there was no need for hiding. Umm, somehow feels like I don't find the right words for all but don't want to discard either..
 
This is the filter I use. It is a 10 micron filter with oil absorber in the container.

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It is part of this rig

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It was stuff I had here. The new part is the toggle (Amazon). The filter is easy. The soda bottle is a commodity item alhiough this Eco bottle will break an operating lever right away. I have the pix here how to fix it if you have a file and a drill.. The real trick is the toggle loader. You can burn through a 50 before you know it tho.
 
So I found this through TMP's trip report on Erowid and spent much of the day putting the various pieces together. People seem to check in here every so often hoping to hear an update. Unfortunately, TMP passed away in late 2016. For better or for worse it seems he rode the space/time/ship to the other side.

#3 - http://www.soundernews.com/obituaries/?75f0b6bd034d-8=&start=130

His supposed list of passions in the obit has a startling omission.
 
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Xorkoth said:
How do you know it's him?

Assuming it is, very sad, RIP man. ♥️
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TMP linked his youtube channel which has his name. That plus knowing that he lived in Victoria, BC, and on Gabriola island, you can find his fb and a few records of his death. The details in the obit align perfectly with his birth year and story from the original post. :(
 
I can relate to all this crazyness.

I discovered some amazing things related to telepathy, protective entities etc and can do things that I'd love to share with others but I have this feeling...that I shouldn't or can't share it.

There's this line I cross in the nitrous space where I go from craving to understand and share to - oh shit this is real and I didn't see shit, don't know anything, don't know shit about shit, never mind I don't know anything I'm just getting high I am innocent. Like once you know enough, you just know to shut your mouth about it for unknown reasons. Like..nobody would believe it anyways and for some unknown reason there are limited "resources" that have to be conserved. I've seen that I may or may not have created extra universes and if I'm ever in any type of trouble I can call on them for protection in this universe. Lolz but of course I'm talking pure fiction here so just ignore me I'm obviously just insane 😂
 
I will say a little tho: watch out for entities that try to steal your whippits. They think they're trying to protect you but if you gain enough awareness it stops happening and then you can find unused whippits .... without even looking at them when they're mixed in with a giant pile of used ones. Like I can just sense where the good ones are in a giant pile of bad ones. How is that even possible? That's one type of proof that some of the experience is real. Not a type of proof to prove to anyone else... Society can't handle things like telepathy or something like that maybe that's why you keep the proof to yourself.

Also there's something with this stuff that prevents a person from using it for evil. Has to do with ego loss and however or whoever programmed the reality program at a high level.

If you find entities that will protect you- save them. Just the fact that they exist is enough to send out vibes that you aren't to be fucked with.
 
just found this thread

the description in the OP of losing your mind after smoking weed on acid was eerily similar to what happened to me about a year ago. like way too similar

i experimented a lot with nitrous when i was between semesters this winter and plenty of free time. everything makes sense and feels ok while you're on it. that's the real lesson i've taken away from it. "it's ok". i imagine a dental supply for an hour would provide some truly profound experiences.

i could easily see how an addiction could form. way too easy to binge on it.
 
Fantastic trip report. Funny. Sad. Enthralling from beginning to end. Superbly written. I can definitely relate to many sections. Would love to see a photo of the room you made with the driver's seat in the middle.

edit: Just read that he passed away.
RIP Merry Prankster
 
yaesutom said:
I will say a little tho: watch out for entities that try to steal your whippits. They think they're trying to protect you but if you gain enough awareness it stops happening and then you can find unused whippits .... without even looking at them when they're mixed in with a giant pile of used ones. Like I can just sense where the good ones are in a giant pile of bad ones. How is that even possible? That's one type of proof that some of the experience is real. Not a type of proof to prove to anyone else... Society can't handle things like telepathy or something like that maybe that's why you keep the proof to yourself.

Also there's something with this stuff that prevents a person from using it for evil. Has to do with ego loss and however or whoever programmed the reality program at a high level.

If you find entities that will protect you- save them. Just the fact that they exist is enough to send out vibes that you aren't to be fucked with.
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I had a friend who passed i used to do a ton of nitrous with and I always figured he was refilling them for me. One time I swear I was looking at an empty used cart and watched the hole recover itself
 
I'm unfortunately immune these days. I've never met anyone else who is. I think it comes from abuse of other stronger dissociative. But even after months of none, I get little to no effect from it, even taking huge balloons from a tank. I mean I could do it and operate heavy machinery or drive. I get more lightheaded from a cigarette. If anyone has any idea why, please let me know.
 
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