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Am wanting to run a little testc with next oral/s am thinking 250mgEW low i now but am worred about sides ie hairloss!! Iv got have 220+ 10mg tbol , clomid 60x50mg , nolva 60x20mg also iv got clen .o2mgx100 i want to use. this will be ran in 4-2010 due to being on halodrol at min any ideas help would be great thanks
Training diet etc fine
 
If you run a 5AR like finasteride then hairloss should be minimal. I'd be just as worried about oral steroids for hairloss as I would for test. Get some Minoxidil and some Spiro and you should be well and truly set.

4 weeks of TBOL + (at least) 10 weeks of test would be a great cycle- although I do agree that a slightly higher level of test would provide more solid gains. Nolva+Clomid for PCT.

If you've got a bit of fat then you could run the clen during the middle of the cycle something like:

Test: weeks 1-12
TBOL: weeks 1-4
Clen: weeks 4-6, 8-10 (run at 20, 20, 40, 40, 60, 60, 80, 80, 100, 120, 120, 80, 40, 20 and 20, 40, 60, 60, 80, 80, 100, 100, 120, 120, 120, 100, 60, 20 unless the sides get too much for you. Thats using 98 of your clen tabs in a pretty decent schedule)
PCT: weeks 14-18

You running this cycle as a cut? If not then I'd avoid the clen and do a proper cut after the cycle has finished.
 
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I'd run the Fin for a while before you start your cycle, seeing how it is a DHT blocker. You will minimize your gains when taking it during your cycle. Spiro would be a better way to go while on cycle. You apply it to your scalp topically, the DHT blocking will be minimal (in low doses) to your scalp alone as opposed to your entire body with something like Fin or more powerful DHT blockers like Dutasteride.

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And yeah, I'd run no less than 500mg...regardless of stats. I don't see the point in shutting yourself down for such a small dose that will yield minimal gains at most.
 
PA first time iv pinned want to try low for now then run 500 next time if things seem ok with this i was offerd 10ml tri at 300mg/ml that is tempting up to that instead ?
p-mo thanks for the info il look into geting the above meds. the orals i use are tbol only iv never had any hloss with it or its clones the only sides i ever got from them are bk pumps at gym but fixd that side now. am unsure at min bulk-cut will be a bulk if i can eat clean after xmas
Will the gains from test not slow i was thinking 10week test ,6 week OT starting week 4 to keep the gains stronger at the end, Is this wrong ?
 
what's baseline for test per week for average natural free test ? I can't recall it but I know that @ 250 mg per week you won't be doing much more than HRT type levels.
 
Seem to remember it was only like 80-150mg/week. When you remove the ester that works out at about 220mg a week that he is injecting which is slightly above baseline levels. Adding in the tbol will push his androgen levels quite a bit higher than baseline. But I would still recomend a higher test dosage- its cheap and effective.

For us MPB guys running cycles is pretty tricky if your really concerned about hairloss. Either you have to accept that your going to have to lose most of the androgenic effects (like dropping bf and gaining a more ripped looking muscle) or that your going to experience some hair shedding. Whilst DHT is a better hormone than straight test in terms of anabolic activity the chance of it adding to hairloss isn't something I'd like to see- I'd rather use an oral which isn't too androgenic and can't convert to a 5AR version.

Although I've never used spiro I just wouldn't trust it to work as well as using a systematic 5AR inhibitor.
 
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