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NEWS: The Age - 23/10/10 'Alcohol price spike fuels switch to ecstasy'

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Alcohol price spike fuels switch to ecstasy
Chris Johnston and Ashley Argoon
October 23, 2010

A NEW phenomenon of young people ''switching'' to the increasingly cheap party drug ecstasy has been fuelled by rising alcohol prices, according to drug researchers, nightclub owners and the people themselves - the nightclubbers.

The rise in alcohol prices was in part fed by federal Labor's 2009 alcopops tax.

''It is cheaper and convenient to use pills,'' said Professor Jake Najman, director of the University of Queensland's Alcohol and Drug Research and Education Centre. ''A lot of young people are making that choice to switch between alcohol and ecstasy. Pills can be cheaper, there is no question.''
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The Age has found that while alcohol prices have risen sharply since 2005, ecstasy prices have fallen across Australia by close to the same amount.

Australian Bureau of Statistics figures show that a shot of scotch in a public bar increased 25 per cent in five years. A 285 millilitre glass of beer is 23 per cent more expensive. Slabs of heavy beer cost 15 per cent more. Some Melbourne boutique bars now charge up to $14 for a single bottle of Smirnoff Ice Double Black, a flavoured vodka alcopop.

Meanwhile, ecstasy prices have fallen 21 per cent across Australia in the same period.

A 21-year-old student teacher said ecstasy was as common as ''buying drinks''. She said four years ago she would have been shocked to learn friends were using it but now it ''doesn't surprise me at all''.

Another student, aged 22, said pills were affordable and pre-mixed drinks at music festivals were ''sugary'' and very expensive. ''By the time you've had a few drinks you don't even have enough money left for a bus fare home,'' she said.

A spokesman for federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon told The Age the government was concerned about ecstasy use among young women. It would spend $21 million over four years on an anti-drugs message through social networking.

But the spokesman denied the alcopops tax - which raised the price of pre-mixed drinks by 70 per cent in a bid to curb binge drinking - encouraged the use of cheap drugs.

''We are not aware of any documented research evidence,'' the spokesman said. The minister's office did not respond to questioning on whether a risk-assessment of the tax was done before it was introduced.

Dr Jenny Chalmers, drug and alcohol senior research fellow at the University of New South Wales, said the issue was untested.

''It could be the case that young people might use more ecstasy or start using it when the price of alcohol increases. However, the evidence from the very few studies worldwide on switching from alcohol to illicit drugs is inconclusive.''

But veteran Melbourne nightclub owner Martha Tsamis, of Chasers in South Yarra and Inflation in King Street, said the higher costs of running venues were passed on to customers through door and drink prices.

''Why would you buy a $10 bottle of Smirnoff when you can buy cheap drugs?'' Ms Tsamis said. ''If it's too expensive to buy alcohol they'll look to different ways to entertain themselves. I've had 300 people in the club and there has been fewer than eight people at the bar. People are doing drugs everywhere. It has become normal.''

Data from the University of New South Wales' National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre shows the average price of an ecstasy pill in Victoria in 2009 was $25. In South Australia, NSW and Queensland that average price was only $20. Buying larger quantities of pills, according to the data, reduced the price to as low as $12 per pill in South Australia and $17 per pill in Victoria.

A Bacardi Breezer alcopop drink cost $10 at Chasers. Before the alcopop tax was introduced they charged $7. Venue owners also faced higher costs from recent rulings ordering them to pay more to music and liquor licensing bodies. Manager of Prahran nightclub onesixone, Andrew Szoeke, said one of his music licensing fees rose by $14,500 in the past year. Bubble nightclub owner Peter Iwaniuk said his liquor fees rose by $25,000 in two years. The club paid nearly $5000 a week in liquor and music licensing fees.

The Age has also established that a disturbing new array of chemicals are being used to make ''fake'' local and imported ecstasy.

Harm minimisation expert John Davidson, of Melbourne lobby group Enlighten, said purity levels were low and there had been a ''drought'' of real ecstasy (MDMA) in Melbourne for two years. ''Exotic'' chemicals had taken its place. ''The situation is way more dangerous than ever,'' he said.

The University of NSW National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre study found that most regular ecstasy users took it to ''feel great'' from the ''high'', the ''rush'' or the ''buzz''. It found most bought it from friends at their homes and used it in nightclubs at an average age of 18. Most users took two pills in a night. Around 40 per cent took more than two.

But rather than an ecstasy culture, said John Davidson of Enlighten, there was a ''pill culture'', where cheap MDMA surrogates were used to make pills or put in capsules. Some include chemicals in the piperazine family, used mostly in plastics manufacturing.

Victoria Police drug and alcohol strategy unit's Acting Inspector Tom Ebinger said more police were patrolling dance events and licensed premises ''to address the increasing occurrence of anti-social behaviour, alcohol related violence and illicit drug trafficking.''


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I just read that on The Age then came on here...

It left me wondering... People do ecstasy? LOL! Who are these people? Where is this ecstasy? These are LIES.
 
It's good to see them addressing the lack of MDMA and the dangerous chemicals that have supplanted it, but it should have been a bit more central to the article maybe.
 
It beggars belief that supposedly learned policy makers and community doyens ignore what is happening under their very noses. Raising the price of alcohol has caused an upturn in the demand for other cheaper social lubricants, as the Age report suggests. The rise in the number of domestic lab busts and narco imports is not a sign of efficient policing but more a consequence of increasing numbers of criminal enterprises cashing in on consumer demand for cheaper chemical alternatives. The worst of it is that noxious MDMA substitutes have become more the rule than the exception in Oz as virtually every ecstasy user will atest. A survey of A&E Depts. on so-called 'ecstasy' overdoses would probably verify this to be so. Politicians should take a long hard look at the Age report for a start and consider thinking harm reduction rather than jack-booting ill-concieved policies through the books that endanger lives and erode voter confidence. There's plenty more that could / should be said on this issue because it won't go away.
 
>_> more like this, bit late all these articles are coming out, everyones switching from alcohol to E then switching from E to mephedrone and shit :/ maybe months ago this was all happening?
 
It beggars belief that supposedly learned policy makers and community doyens ignore what is happening under their very noses. Raising the price of alcohol has caused an upturn in the demand for other cheaper social lubricants, as the Age report suggests.

It easier to ignore the obvious and do populist actions. In the the good old god fearing US of A, it is easier to get drugs than alcohol especially with the legal age for alcohol being 21. (something that is being lobbied for Australia).
Authorities in Australia, UK and USA all believe that prohibition is the best way of solving the problem. Incredibly they are ignoring other countries that have decriminalised drug use, (Portugal, Czech Republic etc . . ) that have seen better control of drug use related problems.

In the words of the great Stan Laurel, "you can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead" =D

Maybe there should be a sobriety test and if you fail they stop you from buying the expensive alcohol and provide you with a safe MDMA bean :)
 
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Maybe there should be a sobriety test and if you fail they stop you from buying the expensive alcohol and provide you with a safe MDMA bean :)

Haha damn I just had a go at that and failed miserably and I'm stone cold sober... the coordination just isn't there this morning, must be time for some coffee....

Back on topic, I was finding ecstacy a cheaper substitute for alcohol back at the turn of the century when one pill was enough for a night out. Not so much now, even with the lower prices, as it's so hard to get MDMA. Speed and coke always end up turning a night out into a financial disaster too as I drink like a fiend on both.

What's a little worrying to me in this article is this statement:

It found most bought it from friends at their homes and used it in nightclubs at an average age of 18. Most users took two pills in a night. Around 40 per cent took more than two.

If the average age is 18 then there must be a fair number of younger people taking pills. How many 15-18 year olds are going to research what they're taking? We don't really have much of an idea as to how damaging all of these new RC's, piperazines, etc are to developing bodies/minds. I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone under 18 try "pills" at the moment as it's such a gamble hoping you actually get MDxx rather than unknown adulterants.

A spokesman for federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon told The Age the government was concerned about ecstasy use among young women. It would spend $21 million over four years on an anti-drugs message through social networking.

That's a joke. I mean look how well several decades of anti-smoking campaigns have worked for teens. Young women are still the largest demographic for new smokers. I don't think I've seen any practical or successful government initiatives launched through social networking either.
 
This article is a load of crap. Where is the MDMA? And the price of xtc going down??? That might be true for shitty pipe pills but real xtc definately costs more.
 
whats ecstasy?

Some definitions:

1. a state of exalted delight, joy, etc.; rapture
2. overpowering emotion characterized by loss of self-control and sometimes a temporary loss of consciousness: often associated with orgasm, religious mysticism, and the use of certain drugs
3. 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine; MDMA


4. random "pills" sold to young clubbers and festival goers often containing any number of adulterants and undesired actives but no MDMA-like substance :p
 
Belarki - I'm now 25, but even when I was 16 I always tested my pills with at least a mandelin tester. I agree what ecstasy?, but basically for the cost of 3 base spirits at a club you can buy a pill - whatever the fuck is in it. So it is no surprise that young clubbers are opting for this option and its not all bad, mdmc - or mthylone ppl like, not my cup of tea, there was some good 2cb I was happy with recently and made my weekend a lot cheaper than had I drunk all that time especially at festivals when prices for alcohol are even more extreme.

Article definitely behind the times... Even back in the day when pills were double the price now, was still cheaper to that than drink....
 
The article is specifically about possible negative impact of 2009 alcopop tax. The suggestion is that a strategy aimed at reducing drug (in this case alcohol) harms - the alcopop tax - had an inadvertant negative consequence (more evil pill-popping). Whether people are buying MDMA or some other tabletty goodness *insert wry knowing grin* is irrelevant to the argument. Johnboy tries to inject some actual facts into the discussion, which is largely lost to the poorly-informed masses... drugs are bad, mkay, so it doesn't really matter whether you are taking top shelf MDMA or piperazines etc; your brain will explode in either case. Get back on the piss like good little boys and girls ;)
 
^you can check out a summary from the Aust Drug Foundation here - this links to ABS figures here up to JUne 2009. It looks like spirits has gone up, but not by as much as RTDs have gone down. Beer and wine basically marking time. We need to wait until 09/10 figures get released (ABS like to be as accurate as possible, which means their figures are always a bit old...) to get a better picture. But pill sales are up, apparently ;)
 
Thanks for the links ayjay, greatly appreciated :)

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.... now we just need to plot annual pill consumption per capita... =D
 
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I've been using this logic for years. Also I don't like getting reallllly drunk, but love getting munted so that might have something to do with it.
 
Better off paying a bit more and getting a decent pill of mdma that will last you 4-5 hrs than some thats cheaper and wont do shit

At the prices stated in the article I'm not surprized its not MDMA
 
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