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NEWS: Police target drugs sent in the post

^ yep that's true, express consignments are much more reliable than envelopes and should be used if transporting drugs through the mail at all times.

Not that I advocate anyone transporting drugs through our mail system.
 
Except for the fact that every postal agency in the world admits priority/express packages are one of the criteria which they use to flag a package as 'suspicious'. Express shipments being the most suspect.
 
Coolio; care to tell me where your intel comes from?

All mail is subject to the same xray procedures - it comes down to customs scrutiny (on internation consignments) unless the package is coming from a flagged location. thousands of express consignments are shipped into australia every day. Obviously the least suspicious packages would be standard letter envelopes, but this doesn't work for larger amounts of stuff.

In saying to use express post for this type of thing, my comments were HR based, not to circumvent the law - not sure if you got that.
 
^ They have said it on that stupid propaganda show "Border Security."

Bottom line, I think is that we all agree sending contraband through the mail is risky. Harm reduction would predicate not doing so. Harm=jail?
 
Coolio; care to tell me where your intel comes from?

All mail is subject to the same xray procedures - it comes down to customs scrutiny (on internation consignments) unless the package is coming from a flagged location. thousands of express consignments are shipped into australia every day. Obviously the least suspicious packages would be standard letter envelopes, but this doesn't work for larger amounts of stuff.

In saying to use express post for this type of thing, my comments were HR based, not to circumvent the law - not sure if you got that.

I don't know where my original source is, but here's a US court case which explains what I'm talking about:

http://www.state.il.us/court/opinions/supremecourt/1997/october/opinions/html/81920.txt said:
Based upon experience and
drug-trafficking intelligence, the United States Postal Inspection Service has
developed a drug package profile for packages deposited in the Express Mail and
Priority Mail. Profile characteristics include: (1) heavy brown paper wrapping; (2)
heavily taped seams; (3) handwritten address label; (4) sent from one individual
to another; (5) mailed from a zip code different from the address; and (6) a
fictitious address. While it is uncertain whether any one of these criteria, standing
alone, would support a finding of reasonable articulable suspicion, in various
combinations these criteria might indeed support such a finding.
...

According
to the Postal Service, only 5% of Express Mail packages are addressed from one
individual to another. This fact, in concert with the brown paper and heavy taping
typically used to prevent narcotics odors from escaping such packages, warranted
a minimally intrusive detention and investigation of defendants package under the
reasonable articulable suspicion standard. United States v. Place, 462 U.S. at 703,
77 L. Ed. 2d at 118, 103 S. Ct. at 2642.

It's a court-upheld package profiling technique.
 
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I worked in the mail centre for Aus Post in Tasmania and well if you put anything in a regular envelope i can't see you ever getting caught. The system works thusly: Place envelope in red post box. Postal employee's collect mail from the post boxes. The mail is then dumped into the mail sorting tray and the ONLY reason a letter is ever stopped is if one of the workers there thinks there is something suss about it. And trust me, no one cares all they want to do is get the mail through as quickly as possible. After it goes through the sorting it goes through a couple more machines and then they are packed into the postal vans ready to be delivered. I honestly can't see anywhere in this chain where you could be caught.

That being said if you do it and get caught well... Not my fault haha.

Edit: International mail undoubtably gets screened however by customs before it is shipped.
 
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^ yeah, people don't seem to get that point either. Domestic mail is VERY safe. There is really no reason for any scrutiny, these people just want to get their jobs done- and finding narcotics isn't in the job description. However, international mail is subject to customs, and is thus far riskier, in saying that, most drugs are sent into this country by some means or another - sea freight, air freight, or drug couriers/internal smugglers.
 
hahaha... nothing like dying in the comfort & safety of an intense roll 8)

well, fancy the amount of 4-mmc doing the rounds. even in the post. MDMA is dead :\
 
Interesting - I'm an Aussie living in London. There's been heaps of press coverage about 'Meow' over here and I know some Aussie girls who take it in Britain. But are people back home really getting into it? Who and how? I guess the same as in the UK, the net. It's dirt cheap over here.
 
Until recently people were ordering it over, but as the article says, they've cracked down on that hugely and there isn't much in circulation now. Will be interesting to see if it starts coming in through other methods, but I doubt it'll be very prevelant now that they've cut off most of the stuff coming through the mail.
 
Bit of both. Most of my mates who were taking it would take it by itself (with of course a few beers or a small line of speed or whatever before heading out and some K/weed/benzos/whatever at recovery), but some would combine it with other chemicals. Mostly people use it as a replacement for MDMA, since the pill market in Aus has been so atrocious over the last 18 months or so.
 
WOW. And I always thought Oz was very much behind Blighty?! Are there young girls taking it, too - I've heard it being billed as 'the new GBL' over here. Have a lot of gay mates over here who've taken it, but also girlfriends.
 
Not specifically young girls, it's mostly the usual clubbing crowd, generally among the slightly more drug savvy crew, though at some stage there was a fair bit of it being passed off as molly and sold to all and sundry (with the kids loving it).
 
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