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NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

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C Tripper, maybe wait until a mod gets here but decent filters for a CWE might be included under harm reduction supplies.

drug mentor: Maybe I will try that next time I get codeine as I don't usually use it with anything else so will just be feeling the effects of the codeine.
 
Yeah fair call drug_mentor. Personally, when I had a massive addiction, I was always worried about it, so stopped doing second/third washes for straight CWE's: I was dosing every single day.

If it's a once-a-week, twice-a-week thing, with normal (below cieling) dosages, then it should be okay.

Actually, that gives me an experiment to do these holidays, I might compare APAP concentration across different CWE's. :)
 
Mr Blonde said:
C Tripper, maybe wait until a mod gets here but decent filters for a CWE might be included under harm reduction supplies.
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I remember making a post about where to buy scales and i'm fairly certain websites could be linked if they weren't selling drug paraphernalia, glassware and other scientific equipment.
 
If you are allowed to recommend/advise dosage amounts what would a good starting dose for a 80kg male be?

I thought the average dose was around 100mg but I see people on here talking about 400mg to 700mg????
 
^ With a tolerance people start dosing around 700mg, I would not start there!

Start around 240mg to see how you react with it, if it doesn't do it then consider dosing from 300-400mg.
 
OPP said:
If you are allowed to recommend/advise dosage amounts what would a good starting dose for a 80kg male be?

I thought the average dose was around 100mg but I see people on here talking about 400mg to 700mg????
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You make a very valid point.

Most of the people on this board are very experienced with opiates and have developed a tolerance to codeine (and hence require larger than normal doses), or they are CYP2D6 deficient (need more than a normal person to get the same effect), or they are dick sizing (love to tell how much drugs they can munch). Either way, start with low doses and work your way up.

100mg is a good starting dose. Even 60mg will be sufficient for someone who has never taken opiates before.

Stay safe.
 
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OPP said:
If you are allowed to recommend/advise dosage amounts what would a good starting dose for a 80kg male be?

I thought the average dose was around 100mg but I see people on here talking about 400mg to 700mg????
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An average recreational dose for a non tolerant user would be about 100mg. I used to get so high from just having 7-8 nurofens +. Its a bit silly when u can just CWE em (other brands work better for that). I have been using it for quite sum time now and i have developed a very big tolerance where it would have cross tolerance with oxycontin and H.

I slowly upped my dose over the months so for someone like me who takes 700mg didnt start using that much at first. After a while u will realize that u will need more and more to feel the same effects. My advice is that u try popping 6-7 nurofen + and see how u like it and if u have the enzymes to convert it then just stick to CWE's.
 
^ Dude, since i popped like 8 Nurofen + and felt sweet fuck all, what does that mean? That my enzymes didn't break it down or something? :\
 
Definately worked last night but I was pretty wiped and passed out pretty much straight away, probably the xanax. SO tempted to dart around today and find a few packets to extract, infact thats exactly what I am going to do so I am out for now, haha.
 
So I managed to go past the same two pharmacies as last night, did a walk by to suss out it was different people working and I was in luck! Annoyingly one of the places is one of the places who refused to sell over 15 panafen previously, so last night I just got 24 chemists own panadeine, today I saw 30 panafen on the shelf and they sold no problems.

I definately felt *some* codeine last night but it was hard to determine how much because I passed out very soon after dosing. I have the slight itch and feeling of relaxation I do the day after codeine, but less than usual.

Although I have been a very frequent codeine (ab?)user for atleast 18 months now I have always been rather good at spacing my doses atleast a few days apart and am therefore inexperienced with dosing several days in a row.

Basically I was wondering if it was worth my time to dose tonight. On Thursday night I dosed approximately 125mg of street heroin, Friday I dosed 624mg codeine and last night I dosed 628mg codeine. Tonight I have 768mg available to extract and was wondering if this would even be worth my while? I am pretty cash strapped, craving an opiate buzz but if it isn't going to be worth it I would rather save my drugs for a better time.
 
i would personally wait between dosing for a few days longer at least, man. you'll be lucky to feel a great deal. residual tolerance to opiates lingers for a fair while and the only way to avoid it is dosing as sparingly as possible.
 
^ Yeah, I haven't started extracting them yet, still undecided whether I will or not. I don't expect to catch a nod or anything ridiculous like that but if I felt the effects somewhat strongly I would be happy. To be honest I am leaning towards doing it, if it does fuck all its a life lesson learned for the cost of 11 or 12 bucks, no real biggie.

Definately keen to hear others experiences before I bite the bullet and start making my drink, if a few people tell me it wont work at all I would probably be turned off, but yeah I definately wasn't asking if would work at all, just if it would be reasonable to expect effects to the point they could be considered recreational.
 
Honestly, I've never had problems dosing a few days in a row, short term tolerance begins to build up around the 5 - 7 day mark for me.
 
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^ Dude, since i popped like 8 Nurofen + and felt sweet fuck all, what does that mean? That my enzymes didn't break it down or something? :\
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Yup u unfortunately lack the enzymes to convert codeine into morphine. U could always try a CWE and see if a higher dose works for u. U either lack the enzymes, had a big meal before u just dosed (u need to wait atleast 3h before having it) or u mite have a high natural tolerance for opiates.

Drug mentor: U will def feel sumfn. Especially from what u told me before bout combining all those things u were planning to do. Dosing 3 days in a row isnt the brightest thing. If u feel the need to do it and the way i do it is that my 2nd day dose would be alot higher to feel the same effects. (Double atleast). Good luck with it:)
 
I am taking 144mg than I did the previous two nights, pretty much decided I am going for gold and praying it does me straight, if I had more cash I would of opted for some riko and tried 300-400ml with some loperamide.

Should of got some antacid at the chemist as I've read/heard it potentiates it. Pretty well decided I am going to be dosing tonight so I will report back and let you all know how it goes. After tonight I am taking a break until Thursday.
 
Well I bit the bullet and dumped 60 panafen in just over 150ml of water so I guess its on now, lets hope it brings the usual goodness.

Wanted to add I have been experiencing some pretty annoying acid reflux today, as of late I have suffered from it quite a bit but this is the first time I have thought about it and drawn a possible connection between CWE on ibuprofen pills and acid reflux. When using ibu there does seem to be less gunk that gets caught in the filters which means there is probably more shit getting through. This will be my first time doing a second wash on an extraction using only ibuprofen based pills (panafen plus) and I am worried I may suffer from bad acid reflux tommorrow as a result. This is definately something I am going to pay attention to in the coming weeks. I switched back to ibu from para because with the new laws it is slightly more cost efficient, if it is going to have this effect on my health I don't mind sparing the extra few bucks!
 
If you don't have an antacid on hand, a spoonful of baking soda will do the trick too, the difference isn't quite as dramatic as it is with amphetamines, but it still helps.
 
^ Baking soda huh, I may have to see if I can find some, surely there would be some around here somewhere. By spoonful do you mean a regular spoon or a table spoon or what? I know its impossible to say exactly but roughly how much would you expect doing this to boost the high?
 
I just have a few teaspoons worth 20 minutes before I dose, a table spoon of baking soda is a bit much in one mouthful.

As for how much it will impact the high, it varies quite a bit. If you're someone who constantly consumes acidic food (soft drink, orange juice, etc) then probably quite a bit, because it will raise your stomach pH and reduce the amount of codeine that's destroyed before it can be metabolized. If you have a stomach that tends a little more towards neutral, then the difference will be less drastic, but it can't hurt.

It's hard to say with codeine, because my highs are fairly variable and I'd already hit the ceiling dose when I started doing it, but with d-amphetamine I found it increased the effects and duration (the latter not necessarily being a good thing with amphetamines :| sleeping afterwards was horrible) somewhere in the range of 30 - 50%, as well as providing an overall more consistant high.
 
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