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NEWS: News.com.au - 22/08/2005 'Aussie model in Bali drug bust'

thats the law of the land and its their country, aussie should have realised a long time ago that its not worth the risk. But if Schepple Corby can get 10 year and Abu Barkar Bashir gets his tiny sentence reduced because of some islamic tradition then NO one not even the people of that nation can have ANY trust or confidence in their legal system. Abu bullshit bakir is a murderer, if a mass murderer can get away with a few years and Schepple 10?

Somethings wrong....
Schepple isn't even a violent offender.... :\
 
sure i feel for them, but they are aware of the risks (if they arent they should be locked up for ignorance), and we gotta respect that there are legal systems different to our own, which are no more right or wrong.
 
I'm gonna merge this with the new Bali thread I think - they're running around the same arguments re: Indonesia's justice system, media overkill and whether people are too stupid for a 20 year jail term to act as an effective deterrent.

BigTrancer :)
 
I think the punishments handed down are so harsh when compared to some of the bali bombers but if your so fucking retarded enough to try and take even a couple of pills with you on aflight when all this media attention is on the issue then you deserve it.
 
This has all just taken an interesting turn. Expect to see a fair bit in the next few days about this in the media, possibly with further examinations of just how widespread ecstasy use has become among young Australians... hmm.

Model 'admits ecstasy addiction'
By Jano Gibson
August 25, 2005 - 6:29PM

Michelle Leslie has allegedly admitted to Bali police that she has been taking ecstasy for the past year and cannot party without the designer drug, Channel Seven News has reported.

The explosive admissions are revealed in the four-page transcript of her first interview with Bali's anti-drugs police, Channel Seven says.

Asked when she started using ecstasy, the 24-year-old model allegedly told police: "About a year ago ...And I've been having treatment in Australia."

Under further questioning Ms Leslie allegedly said the drug made partying more enjoyable.

"I'm addicted to it. I can't enjoy parties if I don't have ecstasy," she allegedly said.

The Adelaide-born woman, who faces a possible 15-year jail sentence for drug possession, also allegedly admitted to police she was unaware ecstasy was illegal in Indonesia.

Channel Seven said the police transcript was allegedly signed by Ms Leslie and her Indonesian lawyer.

Earlier today a spokesman for Ms Leslie's Australian lawyer, Ross Hill, said her defence team was not prepared to back any police statements.

"While we do respect the position of the police and the statement attributed to them by the media, any comment said to be made by Ms Leslie must be considered in their full and detailed context," spokesman Sean Mulcahy said.

"At this stage the defence team is not prepared to provide the detailed version from our client until the appropriate stage in the proceedings," he said.

From SMH
 
Quite a shock I'm sure for the parents finding out through the media their supposed innocent child has a drug addiction problem while imprisoned in Bali and interogated by indonesian police looking very likely to spend time in an overseas jail.
 
I knew she would be a drug user, but I can't stop thinking how naive parents are when they assumed their adult daughter doesn't use drugs. Parents think they know their kids, but when it all boils down very few are going to be completely honest about drug use. It's a sad reflection that comes with the public perception of drug use.
 
if it was a male bogon that was caught with eckies, you'ld barely see a report. why do beautiful people get all the attention.

Thank you!

It's their country. Like it or not, they get to make their own laws, because there's oh, only about, er, 270 million of them?

I Have to agree with this 100 percent

If I go to bali I won't touch drugs. not worth it for one night of fun

Save your money & go to tahiti. :)
 
"That's been the case for decades. We have told Australians, young Australians, again and again, don't take drugs out of this country, don't take them into Asian countries because you can't expect any mercy."

so how does someone getting caught for possession turn into trafficking?
:(
 
CuPillar said:
P.S. im not going t ostart another shapelle argument... but...

on_the_rise_5 you are a fucking idiot!!! how are they rediculous law? is it coz you are comparing them to our laws? adn are you making that assumption because? because us rich westerners are always right adn those 'barbaric' indonesians are wrong.. nothing to do with their society or anything...

fuck! i mean seriously... thats their law, this is ours, they are different... noone can honestly say who is right and who is wrong, the only thing that can be said is that each law is determined by the cultural needs of the societies of each country...

ahhhh!! i hate ignorant people thinking that we are right and the 'barbarians' who dont look like us are wrong...

AHHH!!!!


so what if? and this is just a brain storm, they have the drug laws right adn we have them wrong, does that make us wrong? in comparison... murder...

one country hsa a life sentence to murder, and another country has 2 months sentence... we are the 2 month country, does that make the life sentence wrong? what if we are the life sentence? does that make the other country light asses on a serious issue...

to them drugs are a big issue! and you have to accept that!



STFU!...dribble dribble....

I AGREE WITH on_the_rise_5, SO DON'T BE CALLING HIM A FUCKING IDIOT..

Actually if you use this site and don't agree, i think you might be on the wrong side.. Two pills and 10 yrs in jail? Fuckthat for 2 pills in the Netherlands you'd get 10 buks! (in your pocket!)

It's a stupid law that can land people in jail for 10 or 15 yrs for two pills. We have stupid laws too, dont worry about that.
 
well who knows what is going on now, the Bali police are so dodgy they could have made it up. my tip still remains that she is a user...

Leslie denies drug addiction
By Sian Powell in Denpasar and wires
August 26, 2005

MODEL Michelle Leslie has denied telling Indonesian police she was addicted to ecstasy and sought medical treatment to kick the habit, says a spokesman for her Australian lawyer and family.
The head of Bali's drug squad, Colonel Bambang Sugiarto, yesterday said Leslie told police interrogators she had last used ecstasy two weeks before her arrest outside a Bali dance party on Saturday, when Indonesian officers allegedly found two tablets of the drug in her handbag.

Ms Leslie allegedly told police: "I'm addicted to it. I can't enjoy parties if I don't use ecstasy," before claiming that she didn't know it was illegal to carry drugs in Indonesia.

She also nominated her religion as Islam, according to the police document obtained by the Seven Network.

A spokesman for the model's Australian lawyer and family later said Ms Leslie denied the allegations.

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"Ms Leslie strenuously denies the allegations being made against her and shall vigorously defend any such claims," he said.

"Ms Leslie again requests that members of the media, not attempt to contact her, her family or friends, and to please respect her privacy.

Ms Leslie's Indonesian lawyer M.H. Rifan, who sat in on her interrogations, said he had no knowledge of the comments.

"I don't know where that came from," Mr Rifan said. Col Sugiarto said tests on Ms Leslie's urine had returned a negative result for drugs, though her blood would also be analysed because any traces of drugs would last longer in blood samples.

The 24-year-old is facing up to 15 years' jail for drugs possession after being caught with two pink ecstasy tablets in her Gucci handbag at an "outdoor party" in Kuta last week.

Mr Rifan's last Australian client, Adelaide man John Julian Pyle, also told Bali authorities he was addicted to drugs and threw himself on the court's mercy.

Recently sentenced to five months in prison for possessing 1.8g of hashish, Pyle was widely thought to have been sentenced very leniently.

The new controversy came as the Australian Government sent out an urgent warning about drugs to Australians in Indonesia, urging thousands of residents and visitors to steer clear of narcotics.

The warning follows high-profile drugs cases in Indonesia where 10 Australians now face the death penalty if convicted.

Australia's ambassador and consuls in Indonesia are emailing the warning to all Australian residents and visitors registered with the missions, saying local police are cracking down on drug use and possession.

"While the campaign is not targeting Australians, the crackdown has resulted in Australians being detained and arrested on suspicion of drug-related offences, including for possession of small quantities of recreational drugs," the email says.

"These cases should serve as a strong reminder to all Australians of the seriousness of such offences. I am writing to all Australians registered in Indonesia to urge you to not to take chances: purchasing, carrying or taking any drugs into Indonesia is simply not worth the risk.

"Australians do get caught and the strict penalties in place, which include the death penalty, do apply to foreigners."

Meanwhile, lawyers for Schapelle Corby said they remained confident of a new hearing for the convicted drug-smuggler, sentenced to 20 years in prison, despite the Bali High Court previously declining their request.

Source
 
^ Most important word in that previous article from last night is 'Allegedly'. The source for this was some hack journalist who fed the info to one of the reporters from our fave show 'Today Tonight', so you can make up your own mind.

As for this...
if it was a male bogon that was caught with eckies, you'ld barely see a report. why do beautiful people get all the attention.

Have you not seen the Bali 9..??! Of course she is a bankable commodity with her looks, but given what has been happening of late anyone caught over there with drugs is going to be slammed all over the news. I think the times have moved beyond the boring old 'she is hot with big tits' debate. It is now about being white, Australian and busted! If you are keen to find an injustice, replace bogon with Asian, do 20 minutes of research and you will see what I am talking about. :(

Actually if you use this site and don't agree, i think you might be on the wrong side.. Two pills and 10 yrs in jail? Fuckthat for 2 pills in the Netherlands you'd get 10 buks! (in your pocket!)

Poledriver... sorry but this argument obviously seems to be above you. CuPillar is just pointing out a solid fact here, of course the law is outrageous and over the top, but you are comparing our own domestic legislation to a country with vastly different socio-economic precepts with laws that are set to pander to a religious majority of a completely different denomination than Australia's. Then you try and back up your argument by bringing the Netherlands into it 8( that country is itself a whole other story.

Just FYI too, since when has BL been about sides? Many of the users of these forums are non-drug users and many of these people offer very comprehensive discussions on drug related matters.

Finally, to both of you... cant we try and keep these arguments out of the high school play ground, present your argument as you see fit, please refrain from exchanging insults such as *insert Uname* is a fucking idiot/moron/fuckwit etc etc

:D
 
Personally I had no qualms whatsoever with indonesia, before they blew the fuck out of bali killing around 100 of our countrymen. Has everyone forgotten this?

The terrorist that did it is gonna serve a few years. How many years are our countrymen/women gonna do? if they don't end up getting shot.

It's a great unequality.

This topic frustrates and angers me. There has only been a crackdown on australians in indonesia, since australians in indonesia were blown to hell.

END RANT
 
Oh shut up. You'd have to be a fucking idiot to blame the Bali bombings on Indonesia. Yes, a select few terrorists who happened to be Indonesian caused them, but to blame an entire country is just stupidity.

Also, before talking crap about something you don't know (ie. the terrorists getting a lower sentence), you should probably research a bit. Then you'd realize that the only terrorist who received a low sentence is the one that they weren't able to get any evidence on - so they hit him with evidence of any sort of offences they could, not terrorism. The ones who were proven guilty of terrorism are getting bullets.
 
^^ Yeah well said. Many people are using the terrorism ace-up-the-sleeve to help bubble themselves up into a bitch against the country, it's the standard pretext that justifies all kinds of (blind) animosity against groups of people at the moment.

The real issue is the harsh/draconian drug laws throughout south east asia, and the poor people who get caught and have to go through such shit over small amounts of drugs.
 
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