NEWS: Drugs cocaine and ecstasy laced with poison in Australia

[TripppAR]

Its cause 90% of them have no clue what it is but they are fucked and have big pupils so it must be good..

and the other 10% are insanely well hooked up

 

[psytaco]

Wow. I wonder if this has or is being used to cut meth. I recently on two occasions sufferred very severe headaches after smoking some meth.

that could just as easily been from smoking too much meth though.

 

[Verybuffed]

Try the http://www.ez-test.com.au/ site if you are in Australia.

I was speaking to them today and apparently they have fixed their "shipping problems" and will actually send the kit out on the same day as payment is made. I'll let you guys know if they really have changed.

Just an update on my experience with www.ez-test.com.au

The payment system on their site is not secure so you are better off emailing them to get their contact details then doing payment over the phone. They said they are working on fixing the site security in the next month.

The good news is that they will post on the same day that a phone payment is done or on a Wednesday if done through the site. That is a lot better than the old 2-3 month wait they were so famous for.

Lastly I was told the reagents were quite fresh.

1000 posts for me!

 

[Mr Blonde]

Try the http://www.ez-test.com.au/ site if you are in Australia.

I was speaking to them today and apparently they have fixed their "shipping problems" and will actually send the kit out on the same day as payment is made. I'll let you guys know if they really have changed.

I assume Mr. Blonde gave the US link as the guy asked about "X".

I forgot about the Australian site... thanks guy.

 

[Verybuffed]

Just an update on my experience with www.ez-test.com.au

The payment system on their site is not secure so you are better off emailing them to get their contact details then doing payment over the phone. They said they are working on fixing the site security in the next month.

The good news is that they will post on the same day that a phone payment is done or on a Wednesday if done through the site. That is a lot better than the old 2-3 month wait they were so famous for.

Lastly I was told the reagents were quite fresh.

1000 posts for me!

I got a reagent kit today for some less informed friends after phoning though payment only yesterday. That was amazingly fast!

Things have definitely changed at ez-test.com.au guys. I cannot recommend them enough now especially after phase's RC reagent test results thread.

 

[Jabberwocky]

ATTN: Coke users - Levamisole FAQ

 

[DavisK4high247]

I'm an american and i noticed this post while looking about the Aussie drug scene , it's become quite common in the US for pills to be made in Canada by vietnamese drug groups/gangs to be 1/2 MDMA and 1/2 methamphetamine and often 100% methamphetamine in tablets/pill form being sold as ecstacy...also I have heard of pills containg PCP,epedrine,MDA,etc and no MDMA,,several years ago there were a number of deathes from a batch of PMA(paramethylamphetamine) occuring in the Chicaco area,as PMA has a lower dosage threshold,and takes about 2 hours to feel the effects people were taking these pills they thought were MDMA and after an hour when nothing was felt the took more pills that were actually PMA, and after 2 hours had gone by they were high on the PMA and when the additional doses of PMA kicked in it was too high of a dose of PMA and these peoples body temparatures went to over 105F or higher and there brains literlly cooked on the inside...That is a sad statement on greed by drug makers and sellers that they knowingly sell pills that will be taken incorrectly and people will die,but they did that for some time and never were caught that I know of..Luckily I only consume MDMA in powder form in a capsule from a long time well trusted source i have know for 20 years..It is a shame that kids now do not know what it is like to buy and do real MDMA pills like in 1993 when I started using MDMA,,We never got anything other than MDMA except an occasional pill cut with speed or MDA,but that was not life threating like some garbage the dealers put out these days,and MDMA is not that complicated a sythesis so it is either greed or lack of access to the proper chemicals to make MDMA that has led to this abundance of shite pills..

 

[localized]

and MDMA is not that complicated a sythesis so it is either greed or lack of access to the proper chemicals to make MDMA that has led to this abundance of shite pills..

I was under the impression that MDMA was in fact quite a complicated synthesis which would require quite a sophisticated lab?? Can someone shed some light on that?
But yes it is definatley hard to obtain precursor chemicals in Aus, they are very closely watched here.

 

[belarki]

^ If you believe the government posters it can be cooked up in a dirty bathroom

 

[phase_dancer]

I was under the impression that MDMA was in fact quite a complicated synthesis which would require quite a sophisticated lab??

No, there are lot's of routes to MDMA. Relatively speaking, most small scale syntheses are fairly simple in procedure. Some routes are OTC, meaning solvents, reactants etc can be obtained from commercial/ domestic products. It's the starting material/s that are usually the most difficult to obtain. However, if a large scale operation was the intent, other difficulties would come into play.

 

[thestudent14]

No, there are lot's of routes to MDMA

True, but it's still considerably harder to make then Methamphetamine and requires more time too (If I remember correctly)

 

[phase_dancer]

True, but it's still considerably harder to make then Methamphetamine and requires more time too (If I remember correctly)

Without getting into specific synthesis discussion, there are many many routes to meth, but of the more common, only the ephedrine reduction methods are one or two step syntheses. Of those, there are the "idiot proof" methods, and those requiring more care and relatively stringent reaction conditions.

Making meth from scratch, or via other intermediates would certainly be more involved but relatively speaking, meth and MDMA chemistry are not that difficult compared to what's required for most of the more popular drugs i.e. LSD, cocaine, ketamine, many tryptamines etc. In terms of the time taken, that depends entirely on what the starting material is. The MDMA precursor PMK is only one step away from MDMA, and the procedure is again, relatively simple.

 

[thestudent14]

Interesting stuff, I knew LSD was a bad boy to make, but I was under the impression cocaine and ketamine were relatively simple.

Still learning ^.^

 

[localized]

Thanks for that PD, very interesting indeed.

 

[Sustanon]

Interesting stuff, I knew LSD was a bad boy to make, but I was under the impression cocaine and ketamine were relatively simple.

Still learning ^.^

Cocaine is very simple perhaps almost as simple as cookin up a batch of meth. As long as one has coca leaves they are good to go but if they dont and starting from scratch then thats a whole different story.

 

[phase_dancer]

^ Yes, extraction is "child's play" compared to a cocaine synthesis.

While a total synthesis of many larger molecules can be a lot of work ( particularly if the starting materials aren't available off the shelf), things with multiple chiral centres (carbons bound to 4 different groups) can increase the complexity considerably and sometimes be really tricky, as the isomers usually need to be separated after certain parts of the molecule are synthesised. Some enantiomers and diastereomers are very difficult to separate, requiring large chromatography columns filled with expensive alumina or pure silica, and require large amounts of very pure solvents. LSD has 2 chiral centres (4 possible optical isomers) and cocaine has 4 (16 possible optical isomers). Of course, separating these isn't the only problem with such syntheses, so, compared to MDMA and meth, a total synthesis of either is a long and complex operation.

 

[studman69]

LSD has four isomers? Interesting...

 

[phase_dancer]

Only one has the "magic" though.

From wiki LSD

 

[OND43X]

as cocaine gets more popular outside of sydney and melbourne in the 'new' cocaine markets in WA,Nth QLD, SA etc, you will find that it will start to be cut more and more.
has anyone noticed that the quality of cocaine dives around this time of year but around new years (for last few years) the quality is through the roof?

 

[OND43X]

I'm an american and i noticed this post while looking about the Aussie drug scene , it's become quite common in the US for pills to be made in Canada by vietnamese drug groups/gangs to be 1/2 MDMA and 1/2 methamphetamine and often 100% methamphetamine in tablets/pill form being sold as ecstacy...also I have heard of pills containg PCP,epedrine,MDA,etc and no MDMA,,several years ago there were a number of deathes from a batch of PMA(paramethylamphetamine) occuring in the Chicaco area,as PMA has a lower dosage threshold,and takes about 2 hours to feel the effects people were taking these pills they thought were MDMA and after an hour when nothing was felt the took more pills that were actually PMA, and after 2 hours had gone by they were high on the PMA and when the additional doses of PMA kicked in it was too high of a dose of PMA and these peoples body temparatures went to over 105F or higher and there brains literlly cooked on the inside...That is a sad statement on greed by drug makers and sellers that they knowingly sell pills that will be taken incorrectly and people will die,but they did that for some time and never were caught that I know of..Luckily I only consume MDMA in powder form in a capsule from a long time well trusted source i have know for 20 years..It is a shame that kids now do not know what it is like to buy and do real MDMA pills like in 1993 when I started using MDMA,,We never got anything other than MDMA except an occasional pill cut with speed or MDA,but that was not life threating like some garbage the dealers put out these days,and MDMA is not that complicated a sythesis so it is either greed or lack of access to the proper chemicals to make MDMA that has led to this abundance of shite pills..

yeh i remember not long ago saying how the few times i have been to canada (as i have family there) i was saying how the pills i got there were crap, very cheap (5 bucks canadian) but crap, and someone in this site was trying to tell me how canadian pills are supposed to be really good. thanks for your post.