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NEWS: 20 arrested in dance party raid

Jonah said:
If u kept your drugs in an airtight container, would the dog still be able to smell the drugs?

If the container is airtight, no, but most containers (e.g. satties) are not truly airtight, and people always leave residue on the outside from handling the pills in the first place.
 
badbiki said:
This type of attitude isn't going to save the next Anna Wood now is it? :) come on.... she gets mentioned in every single bloody news article that has ever been since 96... :) would i be a heartless bastard if i started a weloveannawood.com site?

You've been beaten to it. The group Nasenbluten (on Bloody Fist Records, in Newcastle) made a speedcore track called "fuck anna wood" some years ago. Go find it on soulseek, its not too hard to find
 
http://www.discogs.com/release/254422

This record was not on sail in the shops it was given away as a gift to only a handful of people, there were only 50 of the clear 7" records ever made. The sticker on the Anna Wood side has a picture of her in black and white, with "i'm having the best night of my life!" written round the edge of it.....
On the other side is a picture of DJ Paul also in black and white with "i wanna see a rainbow high in the sky written round the edge.…

One of the tunes on the record was made to rip the piss out of DJ Paul for selling out and making "loads of money" by producing cheesy music, with samples from most of the classic rotterdam records & "hay dj paul you fucking wanker fuck off"
The other tune is about a 15 year school girl who died from taking drugs in austraila..with samples "Fcuk Anna Wood" and samples from KOTZAAK0 "fuck you fuck them fuck your mother fuck your sister fuck your farther fuck your family arrhhh comoooone.…

Record is very much like a dub plate and the sound quality is poor..
 
satricion said:
She was an innocent victim of repressive drug policies which lead to impure pills and ignorance on safe drug use.

How about Anna Wood was the victim of her own body's idiosyncratic reaction to a foreign substance.

Try reading something before you make wild statements claiming government policy killed people? Every piece of solid medical research on Anna Wood basic concluded it was a unique reaction which is obviously not found in others on a regular basis. There were a number of contributing factors which may have been influenced by education, but the coroner's report actually said that she was operating on the best education available at the time, which was incomplete and easily misinterpreted. 1985 was a very very different time in drug education, research and politics.

Let the Anna Wood thing rest. People will always make it into what they want it to be on both side of the argument. How about a bit of respect for the fact that her parents have dead child and we stop using her as a political football.

Buck
 
^^ actually anna wood didn't die from an idiosyncratic reaction to the drug. She died from hyponatremia. She didn't feel so well from the pill and so drank shitloads of water.

The coroner's inquest into her death found that her bloodstream contained quite low levels of MDMA.
 
My friends, it's not the police you should hate but rather the makers of the rules. As said before they are only doing their jobs, following orders form the higher seats of power.

And here here Buck_Reed! Jolly good show!
 
'1985 was a very very different time in drug education, research and politics'.. as was 1995.

BT :)
 
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buck_reed said:
How about Anna Wood was the victim of her own body's idiosyncratic reaction to a foreign substance.

Try reading something before you make wild statements claiming government policy killed people? Every piece of solid medical research on Anna Wood basic concluded it was a unique reaction which is obviously not found in others on a regular basis. There were a number of contributing factors which may have been influenced by education, but the coroner's report actually said that she was operating on the best education available at the time, which was incomplete and easily misinterpreted. 1985 was a very very different time in drug education, research and politics.

Let the Anna Wood thing rest. People will always make it into what they want it to be on both side of the argument. How about a bit of respect for the fact that her parents have dead child and we stop using her as a political football.

Buck

Hypocrisy is as bad, if not worse, than any accusation you've made here.

Every piece of solid medical research on Anna Wood basic concluded it was a unique reaction which is obviously not found in others on a regular basis.

Did you make that up? Because it's about as true as John Howard having a long, silky head of hair.

Read the coroners report.
 
rasberrywatergirl said:
My friends, it's not the police you should hate but rather the makers of the rules. As said before they are only doing their jobs, following orders form the higher seats of power.

That is incorrect. A police officer chooses to be a police officer, and they are completely aware of any assignment or trait that goes along with their employment.
 
Good fucking call sonicnature. Martin Luther King once said something along the lines of "we have a responsibility to disobey unjust laws" and I couldn't agree with him more.

When someone decides to become an agent of the state they accept the state's laws as infallible (disregarding constabulary discretion) and I have no time or respect for those who put their own opinions aside and say "I will enforce the laws of the state, whatever they may be."
 
^^
Big thumbs up to that! I wouldn't enforce a law I didn't believe in.

Fuck cops. They might think they're doing what's right, but fuck them anyway. Cops are the strong arm of the state. They are there to enforce the law. If they don't agree with the laws, then they shouldn't become cops, because cops are there to make sure that people follow the laws that the state makes.

Seriously. Fuck cops.
 
sonicnature said:
That is incorrect. A police officer chooses to be a police officer, and they are completely aware of any assignment or trait that goes along with their employment.

I would point out that most of the work the police do (at least in NSW, where I live) its of a wholly beneficial nature. Assault investigations, investigating breakins, rape, murder, so-called "white collar crime", stolen vehicles, road rule violations etc....

I would argue that this is a good thing. For the most part, the police do their job defending the community from what is accepted as criminal.

The fact that you take drugs and end up on the other side of the law does not mean that the police are out to get you personall, they are doing their job in enforcing a small area of a much larger range of criminal laws.

Whether you like it or not, the fact remains that taking drugs is illegal, and I agree that you should not beg with the police (although you can try) to be lenient, because the fact of the matter is you know the penalty for the crime. Talking to the police will not have some wide-ranging impact on the drug laws; you need to go to the source, to the legislators who enact the laws.
 
goatyoghurt said:
When someone decides to become an agent of the state they accept the state's laws as infallible (disregarding constabulary discretion) and I have no time or respect for those who put their own opinions aside and say "I will enforce the laws of the state, whatever they may be."

What about their job? Police officers generally take up their job because they wish to fight crime -- murder, violent crime etc as I've described. Drug use is merely a small fraction of the wider crime net.

I agree that there is police discrection, but look at it from a pragmatic viewpoint -- if a particular officer refuses to arrest drug offenders, chances are they won't have their job much longer.
 
apollo said:
Did you make that up? Because it's about as true as John Howard having a long, silky head of hair.

Read the coroners report.

As has been said - brain death apparently induced by hyponatremia.

From The Coroner's Report

FINDING

That Anna Victoria WOOD died on 24 October, 1995 at Royal North Shore Hospital, St. Leonards, N.S.W. of hypoxic encephalopathy, following acute water intoxication secondary to ingestion of MDMA (methylenedioxymethamphetamine).
 
VelocideX said:
I would point out that most of the work the police do (at least in NSW, where I live) its of a wholly beneficial nature. Assault investigations, investigating breakins, rape, murder, so-called "white collar crime", stolen vehicles, road rule violations etc....

I would agree with your statements if only the police would DO their jobs, my friends and I have needed police help on a few occasions in my life and have NEVER recieved any

eg A, We held the after-formal party for our school, 4 carloads of gatecrashers arrived and we got the shit beaten out of us, police were called at around 9.00pm, pigs arrived at 10.00am the next day after 2 people were sent to hospital (one with half his lip missing)

eg B, My wanted a police escort to retrieve some of his possessions from his fathers house after a violent argument, pigs said they MIGHT be able to arrange something in a couple of weeks

eg C, My friends wheel came off his car on the M1 about 300m away from a policeman with a radar, the pig ignored it, and even watched as a car load of people stole the fuel and center console later in the night (we know this for sure because it was in the police statement!)

We have been busted for possession of weed a number of times!, the CIB’s have raided a friends house and called him a liar and torn up his licence when he stated his name!.

Coppers just want the easy fuckin work and are too lazy to investigate hi-risk crimes (when the public is actually in need)


I can only judge people through experience

“to serve and protect”……..
FUCK THE POLICE!!
 
hrmm....
i dont know if its been put up on here yet, but heres a letter in todays "THE DAILY TELEGRAPH".

the heading is "Police ignore real criminals"
I was appalled to read that police arrested 20 people for alleged drug offences at a western sydney dance party (daily telegraph, may 31).

People using a bit of ecstasy, speed or marijuana are hardly a threat to society. They dont deserve to have a criminal record simply because they prefer to have fun by altering their brain chemistry with illegal recreational drugs rather than legal recreational drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.

I live in kings cross, which is probably the centre of sydneys illegal drug trade, and yet it's the government-approved and licensed legal drug-taking venues (also known as pubs) that cause most of the trouble and violence i see. if anyone in sydneys west was a victim of property or violent crime on saturday night, i am sure they will find little comfort in the fact that NSW police apparently feel that arresting people using recreational drugs and bothering no one is more important than catching real criminals.

Jim Davis, surry hills


well well well
 
I would agree about the cops hassling ravers on their way into a venue...that would suck. Here in Qld their normally around but rarely do they hassle anyone on the way in. If your coming in & out hell yeah but on the way in I have never heard of people being hassled. I have to admit I am glad Qld is like this and feel pity for all you southerners...
But I would throw out a question... 4000 odd ravers and 20 people get nabbed!!!!
Were the dogs not there all nite or were these 20 odd people just unlucky??
Were they carrying more than any of other party goers??Or did the dogs just get a better whiff of what they were carrying. We know dogs noses are good but why only 20 people...
I mean the cops were obviously there hoping to catch major carriers entering the venue and so based on what I am told consider the whole exercise a bit of failure....

Anyones thoughts...
 
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