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Man critical after Big Day Out overdose

January 23, 2010 - 4:01PM

A 27-year-old man is in a critical condition from a suspected drug overdose at the Big Day Out in Sydney.

The man was taken by paramedics to Westmead Hospital at about 2pm today, a spokeswoman for the Ambulance Service of NSW said.

Police have warned of the potentially lethal combination of heat and drugs as temperatures topped 40 degrees at Homebush Olympic Park.

More than 30 people were arrested for drug possession at the festival yesterdat, while about 250 people were treated for dehydration.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/man-critical-after-big-day-out-overdose-20100123-mreo.html
 
Big Day Out revellers face drug crackdown

Posted 6 hours 32 minutes ago
Updated 3 hours 46 minutes ago

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Police are warning music fans they will be continuing their crackdown on drugs on the second day of the Big Day Out festival in Sydney.

A total of 53 people were arrested at the event yesterday, mostly over drug-related offences.

Ambulance services treated up to 250 people for dehydration and alcohol intoxication.

The Commander of Operation Big Day Out, Superintendent Rod Smith, says police will be on the look out for people carrying drugs.

"We've given people fair warning that there will be a drug operation at the front of the entrance at the Big Day Out and it's a focus of ours," he said.

"If people are thinking of bringing drugs in, they are foolish. We are going to have just as many dogs, and if people think that they're going to be able to get the drugs in, they can think again because we will detect them."

With temperatures expected to top 40 degrees Celsius for the second day in a row, health authorities are warning people to be careful in the sun and limit their alcohol consumption.

David Morris from the New South Wales Ambulance Service says crews are preparing for a large number of patients again today.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/23/2799540.htm?section=justin
 
Mother of ecstasy victim Gemma Thoms to face Big Day Out crowd

* Todd Cardy
* From: PerthNow
* January 22, 2010 6:26PM

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THE mother of teenage ecstasy overdose victim Gemma Thoms, who died after the Big Day Out last year, will painfully return to the concert grounds next week to raise awareness of the risk of taking drugs.

Peta will stand at the main gate of the Claremont Showgrounds, one day before the first anniversary of her daughter's death, to hand out flyers in the hope others will not suffer the same fate.

Concert organisers have backed the courageous effort, promising to design and print a flyer that will include a photo of Gemma, warnings about drug use, and health information for every one of the near 40,000 expected to attend the sold-out music festival on Sunday week.

Big Day Out organiser Ken Knight, who met Peta today to discuss the plans, said he had also committed to creating a photographic memorial at the grounds to commemorate the anniversary of the 17-year-old's death.

Gemma collapsed during the festival last year after taking three ecstasy pills on the way in because she was frightened about police sniffer dogs catching her with drugs.

Her body temperature rose to 45C and she died in hospital within 12 hours.

Peta, who did not want her last name published, said she had made the difficult decision to attend the concert because it was something she felt she ``should do'' for her daughter.

``I am really nervous about being at the same place,'' Peta said.

``I am scared of people's reactions, I am hoping that my actions will make a difference - whether it be it might just let them think, be a bit more aware for the day - and I feel a lot of pain because it's very emotional but I feel like it is something that I should do.

``I need to do this to make people remember because young people just move on quickly especially when it is not directly related to them''.

In a draft flyer Peta created herself, the warnings include ``If you don't feel ok you're probably not'', ``Would you rather live your life or be buried in the ground'' and ``Have you read the ingredients on your pill today?''

``I want people to remember, remember what happened and to be aware that it can happen to anybody,'' Peta said.

``As much as this is hard on my daughter's best friend and friends that were there at the time, they later on regret they wish they had of stood up and done something or said something, been a bit tougher - that is what it comes down to.

``I am not saying she would have survived, but if she had been taken quickly to hospital it could have been okay.

``So many of them don't want to tell, because they are worried they will get caught.''

The flyers coincide with a campaign by St John Ambulance to encourage people to trust paramedics, in the hope it will dispel the myth that they will inform police of drug-use, and Big Day Out's own warnings about drug or alcohol experimentation.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/mot...ig-day-out-crowd/story-e6frg12c-1225822683473
 
Big Day Out overdose marrs Sydney concert

* From: AAP
* January 23, 2010 1:08PM

A 27-YEAR-old man is in a critical condition from a suspected drug overdose at the Big Day Out in Sydney.

The man was taken by paramedics to Westmead Hospital at about 2pm (AEDT) on Saturday, a spokeswoman for the Ambulance Service of NSW said.

Police have warned of the potentially lethal combination of heat and drugs as temperatures topped 40 degrees at Homebush Olympic Park.

More than 30 people were arrested for drug possession at the festival on Friday, while about 250 people were treated for dehydration.

The man's overdose comes as the mother of WA teenage ecstasy overdose victim Gemma Thoms, who died after Perth's Big Day Out last year, prepares to return to the concert grounds next week to raise awareness of the risk of taking drugs.

Mum Peta will stand at the main gate of the Claremont Showgrounds, one day before the first anniversary of her daughter's death, to hand out flyers in the hope others will not suffer the same fate.

Concert organisers have backed the courageous effort, promising to design and print a flyer that will include a photo of Gemma, warnings about drug use, and health information for every one of the near 40,000 expected to attend the sold-out music festival on Sunday week.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/big...s-sydney-concert/story-e6frg12c-1225822822021
 
The bloke who overdosed at BDO was a GHB overdose as was just said on ten news ...

Another GHB overdose ... :(

when will people learn this stuff is unpredictable and dangerous in the hands of people who don't understand it ...

Dont mean to be rude but i dont feel sorry for these people at all. Play with fire and ull get burnt one day.
 
^ Surely you must feel sorry for the friends, parents, brothers and sisters tho. And that makes it just as worth preventing.
 
^ Surely you must feel sorry for the friends, parents, brothers and sisters tho. And that makes it just as worth preventing.

Thats a different story. GHB/GBL etc is not worth playing around with. I know alot of people will say it can be used with moderation, i have used it few times but who knows how diluted that shit is at a rave. Usually the people who OD are the ones that do not know the strength of it.
 
I feel sorry for Gemma Thoms family and friends, she obviously wasn't expecting to die after taking those 3 pills in a moment of paranoia of being caught by police sniffer dogs. It must be quite hard for her mum to return to the gates of the BDO to hand out flyers in an effort to stop this from happening again. Sadly it will not IMO.

The flyers coincide with a campaign by St John Ambulance to encourage people to trust paramedics, in the hope it will dispel the myth that they will inform police of drug-use, and Big Day Out's own warnings about drug or alcohol experimentation.

Great! That is important for people to know and could potentially save lives. It is logical and has people's safety as the priority.

However, the police continue with their scare tactics and 'zero tolerance' approach which contradicts this logical and vital attitude of placing the safety and LIVES of people as the priority.

"If people are thinking of bringing drugs in, they are foolish. We are going to have just as many dogs, and if people think that they're going to be able to get the drugs in, they can think again because we will detect them."

That comment by 'The Commander of Operation Big Day Out, Superintendent Rod Smith' 8) is pure scare tactics and is not going to help anyone. It only increases paranoia of those who will be bringing drugs in, which is ALOT of people, FAR more then they arrest. It is this exact paranoia that led to Gemma Thoms death. Well done officers, you are increasing the risk of serious drug-related problems (ODs) from occurring, perhaps the paramedics will have to deal with a few extra people on your behalf. But as far as they're concerned 'drugs are bad' and if you use them your highly likely to OD or cause anti-social behaviour 8)

``So many of them don't want to tell, because they are worried they will get caught.''

And this is the issue. The police need to 'wake the fuck up' and enter reality first of all regarding the fact that a huge amount of people going to music festivals will be bringing drugs regardless of a few dogs at the entrance. They are not accomplishing anything or putting the slightest dent in people's decision to use drugs first of all, or to bring them to a music festival. Drug use is in all areas of society and that isn't going to change, but if it were to, music festivals and places where people have 'fun' would be the last place that would happen.

The fact someone has ODd on GHB is evidence that the dogs are not a deterrent, unless the dogs are not trained to smell GHB which I think is probably the case. But if people are now bringing drugs like GHB because they can't be detected, that is even more worrying.

No doubt the heat combined with heavy alcohol consumption will be the paramedics primary problem to deal with.
 
That comment by 'The Commander of Operation Big Day Out, Superintendent Rod Smith' is pure scare tactics and is not going to help anyone. It only increases paranoia of those who will be bringing drugs in, which is ALOT of people, FAR more then they arrest. It is this exact paranoia that led to Gemma Thoms death. Well done officers, you are increasing the risk of serious drug-related problems (ODs) from occurring, perhaps the paramedics will have to deal with a few extra people on your behalf. But as far as they're concerned 'drugs are bad' and if you use them your highly likely to OD or cause anti-social behaviour

I whole heartedly agree with this ^^
53 people caught and they are being praised wtf? if it were 5300 then people might take notice.....Once again police out there spreading a consciousnous of fear,paranoia and dis-trust in the community .....Long gone are the days where cops were seen as "protectors" or someone you could tell your kids to go to if they had trouble ....These days they would probably just search them .this attidude must change it not doing anyone any good

I feel very sad for Gemma's mum what a horrific way to lose a child but feel police scare tactics had more to do with it. they should take at least part responsibility ............nothing good has ever come from a fear based state.........education NOT condemnation !!!
 

Police arrest 381 people at Sydney Big Day Out
From: AAP
January 24, 2010 2:12PM

ALMOST 400 people were arrested over the two-day Big Day Out music festival in Sydney, with one person caught with 24 ecstasy tablets, police said today.

Police, including officers from the Dog Squad and Commuter Crime unit, targeted drug and alcohol-related crime and anti-social behaviour at the festival in Homebush on Friday and Saturday.

A total of 381 people were arrested, with police laying 104 drug possession charges, 12 drug supply charges, six assault charges and one malicious damage charge.

Police also issued nine cannabis cautions, ejected 11 drunk people and caught 18 people trying to jump the fence into the venue.

Ambulance officers were also kept busy, with 1587 people treated by St John Ambulance volunteers over both days, while 36 patients were taken to hospital. Many of those revellers were treated for dehydration, as temperatures climbed into the 40's on both days.

Drugs seized during the police operation included cannabis, ecstasy, ice, LSD, cocaine and amphetamines.

"One person was found entering the venue allegedly in possession of 24 ecstasy tablets," police said in a statement.

Superintendent Rod Smith said most festival-goers enjoyed themselves responsibly, but some people still hadn't got the message.

"Year after year we repeat the same warnings before the event starts, but every year there are still people who stupidly try to get past us and fail," Supt Smith said in a statement.

"The results also show that anti-social behaviour won't be tolerated, and those charged over the last two days will have to face the consequences at court."


News.com.au
 
Paramedics treat 1,600 at Big Day Out

Posted 5 hours 25 minutes ago
Updated 3 hours 49 minutes ago

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The New South Wales Ambulance Service says about 1,600 people needed treatment during the two-day Big Day Out music festival in Sydney.

Ambulance officers took 36 people to hospital including a 27-year-old man who had overdosed on illegal drugs.

He was in a critical condition but a hospital spokeswoman says he has since left the hospital.

Police say more than 380 arrests were made.

They say 12 people were charged with supplying drugs at the festival and another 104 people were allegedly caught with drugs in their possession.

Paramedic David Morris says with the temperature in Sydney reaching into the 40s yesterday heat played a big part in those requiring treatment.

"People were treated for a variety of different things anywhere from, unfortunately, spinal injuries to having cuts and abrasions," he said.

"A lot of alcohol intoxication and, unfortunately, drug overdose.

"It was a big task but everyone who needed help got help. Thankfully there was only a few patients who were quite ill out of the thousands that turned up."

Yesterday's event marked the festival's 100th show.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/24/2799865.htm
 
If the head of the police issued a statement like the following I think people would seek help sooner..-->

" You have my word as acting Superintendent Rod Smith that anyone who is sick or needs medical assistance because of drugs will not be arrested or questioned or searched in any manor and please seek medical assistance urgently if you or your friends becomes ill. "
 
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That is what he should have said absolutely.

On another note, you almost never hear of LSD seizures, but in the past year or so it is popping up in articles amongst the usual drugs that police seize at festivals (weed, speed, coke, ecstasy). From my point of view it seems LSD is increasing in popularity in Australia amongst a wider range of people. Seeing as sniffer dogs can't detect LSD, the people being caught with it must have had other drugs on them too.

Huge seizures of LSD (trafficable quantities) are almost unheard of.
 
I whole heartedly agree with this ^^
53 people caught and they are being praised wtf? if it were 5300 then people might take notice.....Once again police out there spreading a consciousnous of fear,paranoia and dis-trust in the community .....Long gone are the days where cops were seen as "protectors" or someone you could tell your kids to go to if they had trouble ....These days they would probably just search them .this attidude must change it not doing anyone any good

I agree with you 100%.


Unfortunately our police force has no choice, they have no where near the resources for the impossible task of getting rid of all drugs. So all they can do is try and scare people out of taking drugs. People don't generally get scared though, they get rebellious.

Hopefully soon the Government will realize this and free the police of this ridiculous task and give them more time to help the community.
 
People don't generally get scared though, they get rebellious.
I'd have to agree with this statement. Australia is developing into a nation that hates law enforcement. Not to say that their tactics don't scare people though.
 
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on the topic of lsd being found, it was probably only one or two tabs that they found. Shame on you really if you get caught with it to. Must be pretty daft. But you're right, 5 years ago i could not find any lsd if my life depended on it, but now i'm hearing of 14 year olds having it all the time, there's even tags all around my neighborhood saying lsd free's your soul! It's a new generational awakening!
 
There was one sniffer dog at 11am.. so much more relaxed than last year.

[by relaxed i mean the police operation]
 
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I simply used 'scare tactics' as a way to describe the way the police confront the situation, which is exactly what they do with comments like superintendent Rod Smith's one. The drug users don't get scared (though some might), they do however get paranoid and rebellious just like you said, Jakeperson. And it is those reactions that cause people to potentially take all their gear and OD which is what happened last year to Gemma Thoms at the Perth BDO. She didn't need to die and if it weren't for the sniffer dogs and the way the police take such a solid, 'threatening' stance IMO she'd no doubt be alive today.

Isn't someones life far more valuable then 100 or so minor drug possession charges?

Besides all that gloomy stuff, this years BDO looks fucking awesome, wish I got a ticket. Would love to see Kasabian again, bit offtopic but I saw them last time they came to the BDO and they were great, especially while on some acid :D
 
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