NEWS: 15/4/05 World's biggest ecstasy haul!

[MaXaM]

Not so long ago i payed serious attention to these MAJOR busts. I used to think, "Shite son, does this mean my supply of Quality MDMA is going to be affected?"

Fuck NO, the illegal drug industry is worth billions and billions of dollars a year. And thats Australia alone a country of 20 million people.

Hahaha to the police.

Remember people, as long as there is demand there will be supply, and as long as there is supply there will be demand.

 

[sabitor_84]

Sorry guys this is one subject i will disagree with all of you on.

Lets say 1/4 of all australians use mdma which is proberly way above the true percentage. Thats 5 million australians using mdma, So you guys are trying to tell me that a shipment that is large enoth to supply every drug user in australia with 1 pill isant going to make an impact. Errrrrr sorry guys i think your dreaming!!!! The fact of the matter is a month or so from now times will be very tuff, prices will go up on QUALITY mdma pills. Yes dealers will still be able to pay x amount for bulk pills but they wont be any were near the same quality. Thus what ever high quality pills are around will fetch a lot higher price.

Remember the last big bust which was just before new years??? Well i can tell you right now that bust did impact on supply! I have great connections and finding high quality pills was nothing short of a head f&&k for atleast a month!

No doubt im going to get flamed for saying this, but i truely think this bust is going to seriously hurt the aus market!

 

[KrisChris]

i think your wrong, that huge bust b4 new years... look what pills have came out since there were red rolex, red russians, green mitsubishi's, yellow tulips, they were all good pills so dont tell me that bust even had an effect... maybe 4 u, but i never had a problem getting any of those pills at the going rate on the streets atm

edited - oh and not to mention orange butterflys. im sure there were more good pills too.

 

[lostNfound]

Well i can tell you right now that bust did impact on supply! I have great connections and finding high quality pills was nothing short of a head f&&k for atleast a month!

cool!
sure youve got great connections but not everybody has the same dealer dude. you might have trouble getting good quality pills but no one else has said they have had that problem over that time.
I never did and I'm not boasting about great connections either, pretty average really.
maybe your connections arent as good as you think they are.
Just because things didnt work for you, doesnt mean its the same for everyone else.

food for thought!

 

[IWoody]

This got me thinking..

These importers arn't chumps this is a mayjor investment. THey would plan for what if situations like this occour. By having scape goats and contingancys in place..

maybe they were ment to be found..??

 

[Cowboy Mac]

This got me thinking..

These importers arn't chumps this is a mayjor investment. THey would plan for what if situations like this occour. By having scape goats and contingancys in place..

maybe they were ment to be found..??

No one in their right mind would intentionally want to lose 5 million pills and suffer the consequences that go along with it. What the Herald Sun and the police won't tell you is if they had done it before. You are right these guys are major players and no small time operation could pull off 5 million pills, but who's to say they haven't done this and succeeded a few times before? We will never know.

 

[dabb]

The fact of the matter is a month or so from now times will be very tuff, prices will go up on QUALITY mdma pills. Yes dealers will still be able to pay x amount for bulk pills but they wont be any were near the same quality. Thus what ever high quality pills are around will fetch a lot higher price.

Assuming these pills were quality not just so-so, assuming the organized crime network who imported them put all their eggs in one basket and didn't send/aren't sending anymore shipments of significant size, assuming the network is the major source of quality pills in Aus; those are pretty big assumptions imho.

 

[ANDO420]

Na they often send a few shipments, so if one gets found the other one or two get through

 

[on_the_rise_5]

sounds good, does anyone have any idea how many pillz are consumed weekly in AUstrlia i was reading a book about the UK saying that over 5 million pillz are consumed every weekend in the UK and this book was from 98 n e one have n e clues, damn i would love to organise to bust inot the drug holding area and rape it clean of it is lil 'evil' pillz it would b a big few weeks for me after that i wonder which is 'eviler' john howard and his lil george bush babies fighting the war on iraq (no rudeness to soldiers they doing great job in a place they should not be) or these lil bundles of joy captured, personally i think what is truley evil is lil jonny and his war on iraq

 

[Dr_Evil]

As I see it, if prices were to rise because of this bust, many 'primary pill users' would be forced to understand how the 'primary crystal meth' users have felt for quite a while now ... Obtaining crystal just isnt what it used to be like ... ever since the 125kg (major) haul last year .. Oh well. Guess all you pill guys may have to get new hobbies for a while if the supply drops!

 

[KostoN]

Drugs hold together the world economy


Where theres demand, theres supply.

 

[ayjay]

^yeah. Did anyone see a US doco on the telly a couple of years ago on The War on Drugs? A US narc agent spoke of seizing 12 tons of cocaine in South America (yes - 12 TONS). He said that at the time, he felt sure this would have an impact on drug availability & price in the US. But he found out that in fact it had no impact - this is when he realised that war on drugs was a joke....

 

[Jimity]

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,12870016%5E662,00.html

That looks more like 3 puppy dogs in beach towels to me.

 

[hoptis]

$250m drug haul charge
Elissa Hunt, Katie Lapthorne and Mick Warner
28 May 2005

A CROWN casino high-roller faced court yesterday charged over Australia's record $250 million ecstasy haul.

Rob Karam, 38, is charged with aiding and abetting the importation of more than a tonne of ecstasy into Melbourne in April, hidden inside a container of ceramic tiles.

Melbourne Magistrates' Court heard Mr Karam -- one of the casino's top punters -- had recently lost $726,000 gambling despite being bankrupt and unemployed.

The court was told Mr Karam had been charged with possessing and trafficking drugs over a 550kg import of ephedrine in 2001, but those charges were dropped in February this year.

Mr Karam, a father of two, was arrested by federal police at his Kew home yesterday over the huge ecstasy bust.

Federal agent Steven Cook told the court a container arrived from Italy on April 12 containing eight pallets of ceramic tiles, inside which was hidden 1236kg of ecstasy.

He said telephone intercepts showed conversations between Mr Karam and a co-accused discussing the importation using codes, with Mr Karam's role as that of an organiser.

He opposed bail, telling the court Mr Karam had not worked for some time but had lost large sums -- more than $1 million -- to gambling over the past two years.

The court was told Mr Karam had links to criminal identities in Melbourne and police feared he would use them along with access to unexplained cash to flee.

His lawyer told the court his client denied involvement in the ecstasy importation and had posed no risk of fleeing, as he had always obeyed bail conditions in the past.

Magistrate John Hardy noted Mr Karam had not been caught red-handed unpacking the drugs.

But the spending of "astronomic sums" of money at the casino by a bankrupt man raised questions, he said.

Mr Hardy said he would consider the merits of Mr Karam's bail application at the weekend.

The Herald Sun believes police have added more names to the list of underworld identities banned from Crown casino this year.

From Herald Sun

 

[IWoody]

^haha typical dealer.... likes a bet..

 

[hoptis]

I don't suppose they get their pills back now?

Four cleared over $300m ecstasy shipment
July 10, 2007 - 6:54PM

Four men have been found not guilty of ecstasy smuggling charges in a Melbourne case that involved one of the world's biggest ever seizures of banned drugs.

After almost two days of deliberations, a Victorian County Court jury on Tuesday acquitted the four of conspiring to import a commercial quantity of MDMA, known as ecstasy, into Australia between March 10 and April 14, 2005.

They are Anton Claite, 30, of Roxborough Park, Rob Karam, 37, of Kew, Christopher Stavreff, 38, of Docklands, and Antonio Sergi, 33, of Sydenham.

Two other men - Mark Aisbett, 38, of Highett, and Antonio Giampaolo, 54, of Clarkfield - were found guilty by a separate jury last month of attempting to possess a commercial quantity of MDMA.

Their convictions had been suppressed from publication until Tuesday.

Australian Federal Police (AFP) swooped on a container aboard the MSC Matilda in Melbourne on April 12, 2005,

The container, which had originated in Italy, held 5,051,313 ecstasy tablets, with an estimated street value at the time of more than $300 million.

"What they (the AFP and Customs) found, ladies and gentlemen, was not only the biggest shipment of prohibited narcotics ever found in Australia but probably one of the biggest shipments of prohibited narcotics ever found in the world by any law enforcement agency," prosecutor Gavin Silbert, SC, said.

"It was chock-a-block full of ecstasy tablets."

The tablets were swapped for fakes and the AFP tracked delivery to warehouse in Abruzzo Crescent, Thomastown, in Melbourne's north, where Aisbett and Giampaolo were caught unpacking the contents of the containers.

The trial before Judge Michael Bourke ran for some six weeks.

Aisbett and Giampaolo have yet to be sentenced.

The Age

 

[sydkiwi]

Oh well take a bow Australia. We're still no.1 when it comes to the love of pills.

 

[BingoBango]

"What they (the AFP and Customs) found, ladies and gentlemen, was not only the biggest shipment of prohibited narcotics ever found in Australia but probably one of the biggest shipments of prohibited narcotics ever found in the world by any law enforcement agency," prosecutor Gavin Silbert, SC, said.

too bad they were found not guilty... lets all take a pill and party then shall we? :D

 

[LSD]

They are Anton Claite, 30, of Roxborough Park, Rob Karam, 37, of Kew, Christopher Stavreff, 38, of Docklands, and Antonio Sergi, 33, of Sydenham. And they are given a second chance to order twice as much next time...

Telephone intercepts showed conversations between Mr Karam discussing the importation using codes, with Mr Karam's role as that of an organiser.

He opposed bail, telling the court Mr Karam had not worked for some time but had lost large sums -- more than $1 million -- to gambling over the past two years.

The court was told Mr Karam had been charged with possessing and trafficking drugs over a 550kg import of ephedrine in 2001, but those charges were dropped in February this year.

The court was told Mr Karam had links to criminal identities in Melbourne.

Mr Karam you've done it again! Great example of "it's all about who you know," seriously who does this guy think he is? Only the two mules sent to check the warehouse get convicted.

Lovin' it sick!

 

[ifonly]

"the pills were swapped for fakes"


- basically thwe pills went through a fair few peoples hands before they were ever properly seized or destroyed.

think of the people in charge of creating those fake pills and swapping them, as well as transporting them to and from the fake lab, etc etc, basically there is a long line of people in contact with those pills way before they even come close to being destroyed. and i bet u a damn fair few of them took advantage of it

if i was a copper, id just grab 20kgs or so and retire