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Newcomer to MDMA - have some questions (plus my stories)

ntusvale

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Hello! I'm fairly new to taking MDMA - the first time I properly did it was around mid december( we were at a party(did around 250mg on my first time - dropped two bombs of 125)). It took about an hour to kick in (but I assume this is cause of the rizzler we used and my stomach contents). I can't recall how long it took me to come up fully, I dropped the first one around 8pm and then recall feeling the effects at about 10 - 11, then I dropped my second at about 12am. First question - is that a decent amount of waiting time? I was actually waiting on my girl because we were doing it together. On the second bomb, it took about 15 minutes to kick in. I was sitting on some stairs and my friend who has an afro walked through the door, and the second he did, I looked at his afro and then saw him smiling and then suddenly the world felt real - it was as if I could feel my pupils explode. Everything became vivid, and my surroundings were beautiful, even though the house was shabby and run down. Clearly I must have been on the come up of my life. I don't know how long passed but it wasn't long at all, and while I was still on my come-up we were told we had to leave the house and go home because the guy whose house it was, was going out on the town. My girl lived about an hour and thirty minute walk from the party, and we decided - along with my afro friend that it was an amazing idea to walk him home, which added about 30 minutes to our journey. Once we started walking, we could not stop. It felt impossible. We probably walked that night for about 4 hours straight, from about 1am till 5am.

We walked him to his house, and on the way he wanted to sit down and roll some cigarettes - so he sat down on a wall, and then as he stopped, I couldn't bring myself to stopping, I just wanted to walk forever and ever, and my girlfriend felt the same, so I decided that instead of walking off and walking away that I'd walk round and round in circles, which went on for about 15 minutes. I was filled with pure ecstacy, literally.

After dropping him home and giving him the biggest hug I've ever given in my life, picking him up and holding him for about 10 seconds. Baring in mind I'm 6'4 and 170lbs and he himself is 6'4 and about 160lbs.

We walked home after that, and 15 minutes on the way we got a phonecall from my friend - he'd found another bomb, dropped it and said "Guys, I've found another bomb can I walk you guys home" and we were like "YES!!!!!!". We walked home - it should have taken us an hour and a half. It took us 3 hours, we walked towards the promenade but it became too windy, so we went down a road instead. It felt asif the temperature at that time was perfect, it didn't rain and there was a slight sea-breeze - which was insanely unexpected for a coastal town in the middle of winter!

Now I'd like to know - is this perfectly normal for MDMA? I'm going with yes, and also presuming that because it was my first time, that's why it was so new and so euphoric.

Second time I did it was in a club and we dabbed it instead, there were 4 of us on it and it cost us about £30 (is that decent price for a gram? it was crystals and shit too, I had to mash it up - it was mainly white but had some brown spots/patches) - we didn't bother to rizzler it or anything and I claimed possession of the bag (the people I was with were VULTURES. They were going all the way in and taking big gulps so I just lost them in the club)

Now on this night, we were dancing of course - but also I'd had a pint glass of some pitcher - it was Dr. Pepper with Sambuca and Vodka in it - that was around 9.30pm and left me feeling fine. I then got a drink in the club - a vodka red bull & a sambuca shot. Now I'm wondering - after reading a fair bit about alcohol and mdma - was this a good idea? I don't really think it was. It didn't seem to affect me but now I wonder if it might have dampened my experience on the mdma.

I did about half a gram, accidentally through dabbing. I was in a corridor with some guys who were on it with me, and nobody saw but I reached in the bag, and must have got a cluster of crystals, put it on my tongue and then realized how much i'd got when I'd closed my mouth, it was A L O T. My night was pretty good. I danced alot, drank a fair bit of water ( I hadn't had much water or food all day - I took a small pack of salt with me and put it in my drink to maintain sodium levels - good idea or not? i'd only drank about 500ml of water pre-going to the club, and hadn't eaten much at all that day - just some toast in the morning and a bit of fruit in the afternoon. Was this a good idea? I'd heard about sodium levels and of course water retention, that's why I did that.) I won't go into the after-club stuff cause it was shite - we did nothing, I had the restless legs again and felt amazing but it was raining, cold and we were gonna go to an afterparty but there were non so we went to mcdonalds. It really sent me under.

ANYWAY.

The last time I took it was NYE. We must have got the purest shit ever. I bought a 4 gram rock off my pal. It was huge! It was also cheap as fuck, and it was pretty white compared to the last stuff I got. (Bare in mind this is a friend, (lifelong friend) who I've known since highschool and he does friend prices for me (the guy must be at a loss when it comes to me, he did that rock for about 110 when he was originally gonna charge me 160.)

We divided the rock from 4 grams into 1 gram (we didn't have scales, we used our minds and sight to judge what was right). There was seriously about 5 - 6 grams that we'd actually got. We divided the grams into eights, and we had about 32 bombs overall which we sold at the party (£8 a pop, lol). Me and my girl had a gram to ourselves, and sold 3 grams to a friend of ours. We charged him £40 for each which meant we got a gram for free + £10. Me and my girl kept 6 of ours for ourselves and gave two to friends. We dropped the first at 8.30pm. Felt amazing half an hour later. Did more an hour and a half later. Felt fucking fantastic, my jaw was gone but luckily I had chewing gum. We didn't dance - it was a cottage and there was about 50 people there, they had a handbuilt fireplace and we didn't move, sat infront of the fire in the living room with 15 other people, off our faces. At 2.30am, we dropped the third.

The third was the tipping point.

It kicked in 20 minutes later. I was having visions when I shut my eyes. This is a list of stuff that happened to me during that night:

. My phone was dead. Scrolled through tumblr on my phone with my mind . (Eyes closed)
. Closed my eyes, saw a staircase in my mind. Walked up to Heaven, walked through the gates and had a cup of tea with God.
. When I had my eyes shut and was having visuals, if I made myself lucid ( realized it couldnt be real - kept seeing flashing lights)
. Split my mind in half - there was a lever in my mind that on one side said "WHOLE" and the other side said "TWO", when I flicked the switch to two I was no longer me, but instead I was the room, and everyone in it. I could see myself from all directions - this carried on when I opened my eyes. I somehow had moved myself into a full lotus position( iwas sat on a rather large leather chair). I'd silenced my mind completely, it was amazing. I kicked myself out of it after 10 mins by wondering where my girl was.
. Chewed 20 juicy fruit at once in my mouth and felt like I wanted more
. Sorted my life out ( been having a rough past few months - on NYE I devised solutions to all of my problems and now I'm working everything out)
. Forgot how to urinate
. Hugged every wall in the house, all of the floors, lay in a bath tub to see how comfy it was
. Forgot who I was for 15 minutes
. Chainsmoked a pack of cigarettes

Did I have the best night ever - and am I doing it right?

I'm going to be doing it again next weekend (but not as much cause I'm not partying, doing it at my friend with an afro's house, it's my girls birthday weekend and we're just gonna chill and relax and we've decided smoking weed + mdma is a good idea, so if you have any advice on that, I'm welcome to it.

Thanks :)
 
A few things:

When you take a dose of MDMA, your body builds a tolerance to it in a matter of hours, and redosing any later than an hour after your initial dose is likely to increase the unwanted side effects without increasing the desired effects very much. If you're not noticing this now- you will later.

You should wait at least a month between rolls, 2-3 if possible. Using MDMA on a weekly or biweekly basis means you'll eventually start to see more unwanted side effects and a decline in the desired effects.

You very rarely hear about gram-sized "rocks" of MDMA... it's a little suspicious, to be honest.

The doses you're taking are pretty severe, IF your stuff is pure. I never take more than 125 mg in a night, and that gets me totally blasted for 4-5 hours.

Long story short, it's great that you're having a good time, but your use isn't really sustainable and you'll have to tone it down if you want to "keep the magic."
 
A few things:

When you take a dose of MDMA, your body builds a tolerance to it in a matter of hours, and redosing any later than an hour after your initial dose is likely to increase the unwanted side effects without increasing the desired effects very much. If you're not noticing this now- you will later.

You should wait at least a month between rolls, 2-3 if possible. Using MDMA on a weekly or biweekly basis means you'll eventually start to see more unwanted side effects and a decline in the desired effects.

You very rarely hear about gram-sized "rocks" of MDMA... it's a little suspicious, to be honest.

The doses you're taking are pretty severe, IF your stuff is pure. I never take more than 125 mg in a night, and that gets me totally blasted for 4-5 hours.

Long story short, it's great that you're having a good time, but your use isn't really sustainable and you'll have to tone it down if you want to "keep the magic."

Thank you very much for the advice - I wasn't certain about the tolerance etc.

I was with my dealer when he got it, when I say rock i mean, it kind of looked like a pebble, it was obviously just a cluster of crystals and hadn't been broken up yet. If it's in crystal form - is it perhaps less likely to be cut with anything?

I wasn't too sure about the dosage either, and I did assume it was too much but at the time, really didn't care. So should I only drop a single bomb in a night? Or could I drop one, and then do another 45 minutes later or something? That'd take me to 250mg.

Thanks again, you're more than likely right about toning it down. Much appreciated! :D
 
The doses you're taking are pretty severe, IF your stuff is pure. I never take more than 125 mg in a night, and that gets me totally blasted for 4-5 hours.Long story short, it's great that you're having a good time, but your use isn't really sustainable and you'll have to tone it down if you want to "keep the magic."

Nice post. I agree with you...but wow! 125 mg max in a night? I think for me I definitely come up on that much, but re-dosing is usually pretty important, since my night usually lasts for about 8 or 9 hours when I roll.

On another note OP, sounds like you're having a blast. Enjoy it. Your last night on it sounds like the most fun ever, totes jelly over here =). Just remember to keep it as a treat or else it automatically becomes exactly the opposite ;)
 
As far as dosage goes, most people have a "sweet spot" for MDMA, beyond which taking more doesn't really make the roll any more intense, it only worsens the comedown. Often the "sweet spot" is below 200 mg.

If I were you I'd take a three-month break (there IS a difference between two and three months if you ask me), then try going a whole night on just 120 mg or so. If that doesn't get you to where you want to be, try going a little higher (after another break) to say 150 mg. If that's not enough, go higher again, etc. By finding your optimum dose, you can save yourself a lot of money and/or hardship in the long run.

On another note, everyone who takes MDMA should invest in a test kit. They're available from eztest or dancesafe or even amazon.com for about $25. That's well worth the added security of knowing what you're taking. If you need doses over 200 mg to really get going, it's very possible your stuff is cut. It could contain a harmless cut like sugar or something more serious like meth, without a test kit it's very hard to know.

wow! 125 mg max in a night?
I'll admit I left out some information here. Whenever I take MDMA I also take 50-75 ug of LSD to go with it (half tab). No doubt this boosts me a little higher than where I'd be on 125 mg MDMA alone. ;) I do this because after all the reading I've done, I prefer to keep my MDMA doses low whenever I can help it.
 
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