Newbie needing safe help

[Dillon]

Hi guys, before I begin I’ve read through some threads in the forum and the language seems to be totally different to what my social group use in order to explain certain acts of a night. So may I just apologise if you're thinking 'what is the guy talking about'. Well I’ve only recently started to session (one of our words to describe a night on gear, think its referred to as rolling on the site) in the last two months, my first session was a two day binge on MDMA & MEPH and since then I have sessioned two more times once on MDMA & MEPH again and the other last weekend on MEPH only. Well I’ve been reading this site and I have come to realise me and my social group are very uneducated in drug use, it seems to me you guys weigh up a dose before taking it where as we just usually (using meph as an example) would buy a gram and sniff it all in one session from say 8:00pm - 4:00am it normally lasts. I would normally take a gram to myself but give lines out here and there to a few close friends as they usually sort me some. Well what I was wondering is, can you describe to me for example how I should take half a gram of crystallised MDMA as I have a party up and coming and plan to buy half a gram for the night. Usually I would just start at 8:00pm and crush it out and make lines to last me through the night doing one every half hour or so, but I have come over a negative view of re-dosing in this forum so maybe somebody could explain to me how I should be taking it. I can understand most people may think well this guy is going to kill himself or something but really the only way I can improve my knowledge is to learn so please take the time to help me out here!

Thanks.

 

[augustaB]

Hi Dillon
You sound as if you are based in the UK.
In my view 500 mg (half a gram) of (pure) mdma is too much for one session.
So the question is, is your stuff pure, which leads on to the question of have you tested it?
Assuming you've got pure stuff, 150 mg should get you plenty high enough and you can redose with a smaller amount, say 100 mg, about one hour later.
All the rest is a waste, what's more because the mdma you take later on is not metabolized in the same way it's more harmful.
The mdma experience lasts about 5 to max 6 hours if you are lucky. Afterwards you are still affected but not in the same way.
You can extend the high feeling with other drugs. I find that the highs from other drugs are altered by the earlier mdma use, but you still don't go back to the mdma high.
Not sure what MEPH is, is it an amphetamine?
If yes, speed is a popular way of extending the high. It is quite risky though.
Other ways I've tried include GHB and cannabis. Both highs are affected by the previous mdma use and are softer than when used alone.
I'm sure other people will want to comment as well.
Be safe.

 

[Dillon]

Hi Dillon
You sound as if you are based in the UK.
In my view 500 mg (half a gram) of (pure) mdma is too much for one session.
So the question is, is your stuff pure, which leads on to the question of have you tested it?
Assuming you've got pure stuff, 150 mg should get you plenty high enough and you can redose with a smaller amount, say 100 mg, about one hour later.
All the rest is a waste, what's more because the mdma you take later on is not metabolized in the same way it's more harmful.
The mdma experience lasts about 5 to max 6 hours if you are lucky. Afterwards you are still affected but not in the same way.
You can extend the high feeling with other drugs. I find that the highs from other drugs are altered by the earlier mdma use, but you still don't go back to the mdma high.
Not sure what MEPH is, is it an amphetamine?
If yes, speed is a popular way of extending the high. It is quite risky though.
Other ways I've tried include GHB and cannabis. Both highs are affected by the previous mdma use and are softer than when used alone.
I'm sure other people will want to comment as well.
Be safe.

Yes im from the UK. To be honest i doubt the stuff we get is 'pure' MDMA it would most probably have been cut with some sort but with everybody in my town, friends of friends they all do half a gram of MDMA in one session it's not rare to do more. My cousin who i usually session with, well he has done 2 Grams in a session before, he did say he has never been in that state ever since but just to compare it to the doses advised on her seem deadly. And MEPH is an amphetamine known as Mephadrone, it's very similar to MDMA but half the price for the same amount. Just in my opinon the buzz is nowhere near as good. On my next session i do plan on taking the full 500mg, im looking for some advice on the best and safest way to take it. What i was going to do was make a 250g bomb and take that at the start of the session around 8:00pm and then with the last 250g divide it into lines (usually do quite big lines). What do you think of this?

 

[Karcinogenious]

I've recently read about this simple anhydrous acetone wash that will purify MDMA or cocaine a lot, not completely, but a lot, and it's simple and really cheap..google washing MDMA with acetone..and to make anhydrous acetone there is a simple recipe you can look up, it basically involving baking Epsom salts and mixing them with the acetone, they pull the water out, and thus no MDMA or cocaine will dissolve in it...add MDMA to anhydrous acetone, swirl around, pour through coffe filter, let completely evaporate for atleast a day and now you have almost pure MDMA...be aware though that certain cuts like methylone and basically drugs with a similar molecular structure will also stay behind, but the big cuts usually are bunk shit that isnt active and will be removed....I have never had enough MDMA to actually do this but if I had a 5 gram bag or so I could see it being worth it...especially if the only shit you can get requires a 500mg dose...if you purify you can start measuring accurate doses and 100 to 200 will be all you need, and without god knows what else in your shit....you don't have to take my advice but it's just a thought, you would have the purest MDMA on the block, and it's mad cheap to do this, google it!

 

[Dillon]

I've recently read about this simple anhydrous acetone wash that will purify MDMA or cocaine a lot, not completely, but a lot, and it's simple and really cheap..google washing MDMA with acetone..and to make anhydrous acetone there is a simple recipe you can look up, it basically involving baking Epsom salts and mixing them with the acetone, they pull the water out, and thus no MDMA or cocaine will dissolve in it...add MDMA to anhydrous acetone, swirl around, pour through coffe filter, let completely evaporate for atleast a day and now you have almost pure MDMA...be aware though that certain cuts like methylone and basically drugs with a similar molecular structure will also stay behind, but the big cuts usually are bunk shit that isnt active and will be removed....I have never had enough MDMA to actually do this but if I had a 5 gram bag or so I could see it being worth it...especially if the only shit you can get requires a 500mg dose...if you purify you can start measuring accurate doses and 100 to 200 will be all you need, and without god knows what else in your shit....you don't have to take my advice but it's just a thought, you would have the purest MDMA on the block, and it's mad cheap to do this, google it!

Sorry mate, i just like buzzing my titts off and loving people up when on MDMA. Not really into all that stuff, haha sorry.

 

[Bearlove]

Half a gram of MDMA is a high amount to be taking. A 250mg bomb of decent MDMA would have a lot of people stuck to the floor and unable to talk, eyes rolling back in your head, jaw going crazy etc - the effects would be too much for a new user.

As you don't know what adulterant is being used then there is no real 'safe' way to take the stuff. If I was you I would be buying test kit (10£) testing your gear and going from there. Also if your hammering the Meph then then going to build a tolerance to MDMA (meaning you need to take more and more to get the same high) and with higher doses comes greater risks.

IF your going ahead with the gear you have then as you say starting off with a higher initial dose and then taking smaller doses is the way to go - depending on how wasted you want to get. PLEASE be advised of a few deaths in the UK from a substance being sold as MDMA.

In short though, if your having to use 250+ to get going then you either have a tolerance due to overuse or your gear is being cut / not MDMA.

Theres also a UK section on here if you fancy chatting with locals

 

[yanker]

I say u take a really big capsule put the whole half gram in there and swallow the fucking thing. I mean ur gona do it all in the same night anyway might as well do it all at once. And if u live till the next day come back and tell us all how it was please

 

[Bilbs]

Dillon mate I'm from the UK and my friends used to not know shit about MDMA either (they probably still don't), i did half grams in one night, simply cause i thought £20 was an appropriate amount of money to spend on a night and that's what my mates were doing.

I can tell you now if you munch a half gram this will happen:
You'll sit in one place the whole of the next day, absolutely exhausted starring at nothing, or at a T.V, which you're not paying attention to. Doing that much mandy won't make your high better, in fact it will make it worse. For starters you won't remember shit, you won't be able to talk to people, your eyes will close without you realizing, you'll chew your lips, cheeks and bite your tongue, 4 hours will feel more like 40 minutes and by the time your finished coming down you won't remember what the high was like. Also i'm guessing you smoke weed? Look forward to some first rate anxiety and paranoia on the comedown.

The reason people are eating mandy like this these days is cause they discovered mephedrone before ecstasy. Drone, like mdma is very moreish. The difference between the two is that when you do more mephedrone although the euphoria is gone you still get a kick, like speed, coke or mephamphetamine. But when you do more mandy, all you do is fry your brain, add to the comedown and keep yourself awake in what has got to be described as the mother of all hangovers.

I know you probably won't follow this but here is what you should do. Taking into account you've been sniffing drone and MD recently, you will have a tolerance which basically means you the euphoria will be weak cause you havn't had a break. Bomb 200mg then like 100mg an hour later. When it starts to wear off drink beer, or smoke weed, sniff drone or whatever but more MD won't do shit for you.

By the way i got a story that tops yours. One of my friends chased the high so hard he did 7 grams in one night. He landed in the hospital due to a mini stroke and he didn't even get high.

 

[Darksidesam]

You'll sit in one place the whole of the next day, absolutely exhausted starring at nothing, or at a T.V, which you're not paying attention to. Doing that much mandy won't make your high better, in fact it will make it worse.

I agree with Bilbs.

Typical dose for me is 150mg, Gives me an amazing time.
200mg is the most ive done,
most magical time was 180mg.

But theres a point, chatting beyond 180mg i think that you just get more physical side effects, Rather than positive effects.

 

[Dillon]

Dillon mate I'm from the UK and my friends used to not know shit about MDMA either (they probably still don't), i did half grams in one night, simply cause i thought £20 was an appropriate amount of money to spend on a night and that's what my mates were doing.

I can tell you now if you munch a half gram this will happen:
You'll sit in one place the whole of the next day, absolutely exhausted starring at nothing, or at a T.V, which you're not paying attention to. Doing that much mandy won't make your high better, in fact it will make it worse. For starters you won't remember shit, you won't be able to talk to people, your eyes will close without you realizing, you'll chew your lips, cheeks and bite your tongue, 4 hours will feel more like 40 minutes and by the time your finished coming down you won't remember what the high was like. Also i'm guessing you smoke weed? Look forward to some first rate anxiety and paranoia on the comedown.

The reason people are eating mandy like this these days is cause they discovered mephedrone before ecstasy. Drone, like mdma is very moreish. The difference between the two is that when you do more mephedrone although the euphoria is gone you still get a kick, like speed, coke or mephamphetamine. But when you do more mandy, all you do is fry your brain, add to the comedown and keep yourself awake in what has got to be described as the mother of all hangovers.

I know you probably won't follow this but here is what you should do. Taking into account you've been sniffing drone and MD recently, you will have a tolerance which basically means you the euphoria will be weak cause you havn't had a break. Bomb 200mg then like 100mg an hour later. When it starts to wear off drink beer, or smoke weed, sniff drone or whatever but more MD won't do shit for you.

By the way i got a story that tops yours. One of my friends chased the high so hard he did 7 grams in one night. He landed in the hospital due to a mini stroke and he didn't even get high.

Mate your the one person who has given me the answer to the questions i asked cheers bro. I did smoke weed pretty much everyday, but stopped two weeks ago and plan to stay of it for as long as possible. The thing is none of my mates will carry and digi-scales around so i wont really be able to weigh out the doses, like i said my crowd just rack it up into lines and bang one every half hour untill the dizzle is gone. But yeah i think ill stick to what you said, i just wanna have a sick night and remember everything while rushing my titts off to the max without adding more negatives to the buzz. Do you recommend bombing each dose? The 200mg and the 100mg?

 

[Dillon]

bump

 

[the toad]

Eat it in 2 doses about an hour apart... that will get you the most out of your stash.... snorting ecstasy is a much less effective method...

 

[Bilbs]

Yeah man bomb both doses. By your second dose you would have come up so put a timer on ya phone or something so you remember to get the second one in. Its a gamble on the high due to the quality of the molly cause if it's not great then the roll won't be that great but a light roll is better than one you forget.

As for not having scales, just crush it up like you normally would to sniff it then seperate it into equalish piles or lines. Split it into 5 if its a half gram and then each line is roughly 100mg. Make three bombs, save one of the 200mg bombs for another time. Simples.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

if you got quality MDMA you dont need half a gram to a night.
if its dank shit, 150mg will get you off your fuckin ass, unless you're an etard, then you might need .2
if you NEED to use half a gram a night your product is absolute shit, as in if you're not gonna be satisfied. its not hard to do half a gram in a night if you want to/set out to but IME thats being completely gone all night/unnecessary/a waste...
a quarter gram being needed....that shits at least 40% cut i'd guess/cut to shit cause quality mdma, .18-.2 at once will be strong as fuck.
snorting MDMA is a waste, i wouldn't snort it by itself, eg. if you are gonna snort MDMA, just put a little bit into a line of speed to change how the speed feels, IMO unless you're mixing with other shit snorting is absolutely pointless...
you shouldn't be going a day straight on MDMA, you'd need a fuckton of MDMA to stay high for 24 hours/its stupid to try to go days on with MDMA like you can do easily with speed.
be careful binging on mephedrone, one of the metabolites is cardiotoxic as all hell/mephedrone absolutely rapes your heart real bad