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TAR3

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Long time opiate user - since '68. Been on all the rides and seen all the sights.

Recent injury resulted w/ Doc putting me on Oxy (we both knew better - given my history). Now taking trams to get off Oxy. Have lots 'O trams but do not like them. Taking about 250-300 mg. trams [daily]. Have some kratom (never used before) and am wondering if there are any problems with tram/kratom crossover. Can I take kratom same day as last tram dose (how long an interval) or wait until next day?

How do and thanks for the help!
 
Thanks for your reply and the welcome!

I've been on maintenance for the last 20 years. First decade methadone; second decade Subutex (Doc never switched me to Suboxone). I was that Doc's alpha patient - the reason he got DEA authorization. Put me on 32 MG daily for years - neither of us understood the overkill at the time. Doc decided to leave the state and rapid detox followed (last 6 months, especially). Almost to the day of my last dose of subutex, I blew a disc in my back getting ready for work. New doc put me on Oxy - like a moron - I accepted the script. So, here I am again.

I'm considering going back on Methadone as I am too old and tired to play "lets see if I can find any dope today".

Sold my soul to papaver somniferum in the '60's; I suspect my body shut down/ shuttered the endorphin factory years ago.

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Any thoughts, ideas, comments, suggestions or whatever - are welcome.
 
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From a long-time opiate user to another, I can tell you that the right amount of kratom WILL cure your wd. Then, you can taper and kick the kratom at your pace, which is easier to do than kicking methadone, bupe or even oxy for that matter. Try it out: alot better, forgiving and kind to your body than synthetic opiates like adolphine or bupe!!
 
From a long-time opiate user to another, I can tell you that the right amount of kratom WILL cure your wd. Then, you can taper and kick the kratom at your pace, which is easier to do than kicking methadone, bupe or even oxy for that matter. Try it out: alot better, forgiving and kind to your body than synthetic opiates like adolphine or bupe!!

Just not sure which variety to try - don't like any "speed" effects - I've O.D.'d on old-fashioned crystal and blue Coke so many times (70's) last time ('79) fixed my desire for "speed", forever. Looking for sedation, euphoria, and relaxation - you know - peace from WD. Just ordered some "golden reserve" and hope it's what I seek: too damn old for the hyperactivity.

Are you a driver? Been OTR myself (several years) and thinking about doing it again.

Thank you for the reply!
 
No sweat!! I understand your reluctance perfectly, but know that the ''energy'' provided by kratom WON'T give you the jitters like too much coffee or speed. Not the same at all, don't worry. It's a bit akin to tramadol in that respect - but not even, cos tramadol can give you seizures, and I never heard of a seizure caused by kratom.

No I'm not a driver... ttyl gotta go, Cheers!
 
No sweat!! I understand your reluctance perfectly, but know that the ''energy'' provided by kratom WON'T give you the jitters like too much coffee or speed. Not the same at all, don't worry. It's a bit akin to tramadol in that respect - but not even, cos tramadol can give you seizures, and I never heard of a seizure caused by kratom.

No I'm not a driver... ttyl gotta go, Cheers!

You awwright, Bro!

Thanks for taking the time to help a senior citizen cross the G.D. street!
 
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