New to Needles - Insulin Needles and Pulling Air?

[MrSteak63]

Getting back into the needle scene, and got me 10 1cc insulin needles. Just prepared a test shot of saline, put the needle into my prepped vein, then pulled back on the plunger. To my surprise, I see I'm starting to pull air. From my vein it seems.


Does my needle have a leak? Is this common? I'd just like the explanation of this, as I do not want to fuck up in any way or use fucked needles. All these were new also, and in 2 days I'm getting a g of boy and need to know what the hell the deal is, or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

 

[itsjustme]

if you try to register and aren't in a vein an air bubble will form...if you're in a vein, blood will come in...pull back a tiny bit, you will get a small bubble. then slide it in and when you see blood come in you know you're good

like register right when you pierce the skin. then poke around and wait for blood.

 

[MrSteak63]

Okay lemme try this again and see if my results differ.

 

[itsjustme]

no, sorry that was kind of unclear. don't pull back at all, get all bubbles out of the syringe. THEN pierce the skin with the needle. THEN pull back a TINY bit. THEN attempt to hit, so RIGHT when you hit, you will KNOW you're in. instead of trying to guess when you're in, and then pulling back. when you pull back, already UNDER the skin, it will create suction to pull the blood through the MOMENT you are in a vein.

 

[MrSteak63]

well I tried that 10-15 degree thing on a new spot a little higher up on the vein, and it jumped through my thick skin right into my vein. First pull back I did that nice cloud of red came in and sank down, so finally I have hit a damn vein.

7 holes in my arm, 1 that was worth it somewhat. 2 days and it'll be a different story

Thanks for the help, any other advice would be great in this thread as well, I'm sure I'll have more questions.

Also, these needles go dull very fast it seems. 7 shots with one, and I have to twist it basically to get it to pierce my skin. That's unhealthy for my vein correct?

Last, will one CC be enough water to effectively shoot my first shot of heroin? I totally have to kinda guess how much out of that gram to use as well, that kinda sucks.

 

[itsjustme]

yayyyy you hit!! :D

it's not good for your vein to reuse needles, supposedly even once, but i say 1-4 times is ok. mainly it makes it so much harder to hit. hitting with a brand new needle is so easy comparatively.

you don't need to use an entire CC. depending on your tolerance...30-40 units should be more than enough...be careful.

 

[IcarusRisen]

Am I the only person here who has never missed a vein?

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

in response to chubba75---

I went from smoking cannabis 5-7 times a day (2-5 grams a day of high quality cannabis, very expensive shit, to taking hydrocodone 5-22.5mg / daily, to 5-10mg oxycodone daily, to 10-60mg oxycodone daily, then to IV....

starting shooting up 20-60mg oxycodone IR in one shot and re-dosing every 30 minutes until i ran out. i also shot oxycontin 10-50mg, ritalin 10-20mg, amphetamine 10-100mg, cocaine 100-500mg, dilaudid 0.5-2mg.

it does happen quick as chubba75 said, so be VERY VERY careful especially if you have even the slightest addictive personality, as the process of IV'ing can be more addicting than the drug/high itself.

but please if you are going to IV READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, every PDF manual on this site you can find read and re-read, a lot of bad shit can happen when shooting pills or powders so be careful.

i've shot 40+ times in a 2-3 month span and then realized it was getting out of control so i stopped but i still crave slamming shit....main problem is no other MOA compares....but do your homework, it can help prevent a LOT of problems, vein collapse, infections, abcesses, etc.

peace

Am I the only person here who has never missed a vein?

No.

 

[IcarusRisen]

Amen, EOJ. There's nothing quite like watching the plunger slowly go down and your high come up just as quickly. Stims, opiates, it's the IVing that makes it the most fun.

 

[MrSteak63]

Amen, EOJ. There's nothing quite like watching the plunger slowly go down and your high come up just as quickly. Stims, opiates, it's the IVing that makes it the most fun.

I'll admit I have a slightly addictive personality, but boy is such a rare delicacy I'm going to give it a try. Also gonna try a shot of coke and see how that feels as well, I assume that process with heroin (spoon, water, lighter, cotton) is the same with coke as well?

Lucky, mine was ~1000 times in 18 months

DO NOT REUSE SYRINGES.

7 times, that syringe would be doing a ridiculous amount of damage, NEVER do that again.

Even using a syringe a second time it does a significantly more damage.

With the amount of water, basically it's however much you feel comfortable with. I typically never like to go over 40% of the volume (40 units out of 1CC), this gives me a good grip / easy register.

Gotchya, already threw out that needle actually

 

[itsjustme]

in response to chubba75---

I went from smoking cannabis 5-7 times a day (2-5 grams a day of high quality cannabis, very expensive shit, to taking hydrocodone 5-22.5mg / daily, to 5-10mg oxycodone daily, to 10-60mg oxycodone daily, then to IV....

starting shooting up 20-60mg oxycodone IR in one shot and re-dosing every 30 minutes until i ran out. i also shot oxycontin 10-50mg, ritalin 10-20mg, amphetamine 10-100mg, cocaine 100-500mg, dilaudid 0.5-2mg.

i went from completely sober ( had smoked weed before but not with any regularity, and sobriety of over 3 months ) straight to IV meth use. didn't try smoking, eating, etc..(aside from adderall script in freshman yr)...first shot ever was a shot of meth. from then on for the next 4-5 months shooting it daily....and no one taught me proper vein care...was left alone with a large bag of meth and ONE dull needle....it can get you LIKE THAT

i have missed. but not since starting heroin (about 6 months later). the person who gave me heroin taught me proper vein care and i haven't missed since....if im missing i pull out and start over b/c i dont want to waste the high!

female veins suck! mine are relatively decent. but im jealous of all you bulgy vein guys...

 

[itsjustme]

Also gonna try a shot of coke and see how that feels as well, I assume that process with heroin (spoon, water, lighter, cotton) is the same with coke as well?

you don't heat cocaine. when you do your shot of coke, UNDERestimate what you think you need. push in half. if you hear a loud roar, stop. halfway through the shot, stop and count to ten. if you don't hear an overwhelmingly loud noise, it's ok to finish. i had a stroke my FIRST NIGHT shooting cocaine. once again, be careful...

 

[MrSteak63]

you don't heat cocaine. when you do your shot of coke, UNDERestimate what you think you need. push in half. if you hear a loud roar, stop. halfway through the shot, stop and count to ten. if you don't hear an overwhelmingly loud noise, it's ok to finish. i had a stroke my FIRST NIGHT shooting cocaine. once again, be careful...

Probably gonna take a baby inch-inch 1/2 line and turn it into about 40ccs and try it that way.

So the coke just dissolves into the water easily then? I guess I gotta mix it around with my needle/other or something?

Coke is the thing that gave me the heroin urge, as these needles are everywhere and I'll try anything once.

As for the roar, is that the same as the train I hear when I snort a large bit of coke pretty much? Or is that the coke devil's impending doom on my brain rushing in when I shoot it too fast that would make my brain pop pretty much?

I'm 6 foot 2, 130lbs... I'm a walking anatomy diagram.

I've never had to even tie off once, not even pump my fist... I just got big tubes bulging out everywhere.

Same here

122 lb though. 5"11.

 

[itsjustme]

Does anybody have the microscopic pictures of used needle tips?

here they be...

I've never had to even tie off once, not even pump my fist... I just got big tubes bulging out everywhere.

rub it in, rub it in....

 

[melange]

I've never had to even tie off once, not even pump my fist... I just got big tubes bulging out everywhere.

 

[Arsteraad]

To the OP, UTFSE!

 

[GlassAss420]

Man the first couple uses of the needle look reasonable, but I think between the 2nd and 6th shoots the guy musta jammed that needle tip into concrete, or tried to shoot up in the bottom of his foot or some shit, I know those pics are way magnified but I've never seen no needle look like that ever..

I know how much harder it is to get into a vein after the first few uses but still that thing is just crunked.

 

[phr]

You sound like you're IV naive. I wouldn't recommend starting with cocaine if you don't have any IV experience, or if your technique is off(which it is).

Good luck.

 

[Smacklover]

STFU and get out of the thread.

Why you would even waste the time posting that.

I just scanned the front page of Other Drugs and this is by far the most important topic. The original user had a good question, through the help of several users the OP now has successfully IVed and learnt how valuable harm-reduction knowledge.

Agreed.

Where do you even get off being a 2007 member and coming into an IV thread posting bullshit.

Bluelight is going downhill.

It doesn't matter when you sign up or how long you've been a member if you want to help, help. If you want to be an asshole go away.

Bluelight isn't going downhill. Posters like you chubba, and many others make this site a great and valuable resource. You just gotta ignore the assholes.

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

be very careful if you decide to IV cocaine, as it is the second most dangerous thing IMO to IV behind methamphetamine.

there are so many shitty cuts in coke that i doubt you want in your blood (Baby laxative, etc).

but it does feel amazing... however the rush from a coke shot is pretty hard to tell from a shot of ritalin or even a shot of amphetamine. at least in my experiences.