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New to hydromorphone + some ROA questions

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Bigginsmcgee

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Okay, so I just got a connection where I can get me some 8mg Hydromorphone pills. Now, I'm going to state very clearly now that I have a very low tolerance. 15 mgs of oxycodone orally gets me where I want. Though I found out last night that if I take 20 I get sick to my stomach..and then if I take 5mg more an hour later I'm hyper and extra nice.

Anyways, I absolutely refuse to IV anything, so before that gets said...I'm not doing it. I may snort, but I really don't like the idea of that either and thus haven't done it. I do know that hydromorphone has a low BA when eaten, but I would like to try it once...see how the high affects me differently.

Taking all of this into consideration, I'd like to know where I should look to start on this. I'm not the type to overdue anything and usually do lots of research before I take anything, however I seem to be having a hard time finding simple enough information on this particular drug.

So, if it's not too much trouble, could you tell me a dosage that would be safe and fairly likely to give me a euphoric experience with oral administration, as well as rectal and I suppose snorting. Oh, and would I get any kind of improvement if I used it sublingually(sp?)?

Finally would I see any difference with taking my normal hydrocodone/oxycodone doses sublingually/parachuting?

Thanks in advance!
 
hydromorphone, if you looked on here it will tell you-in fact there is a lot of info on this site about it, has a very low oral bioavailability. I LOVE it and would really enjoy it right now. Also, I'm not about IV'ing (which for this drug is the best for ROA). I snort mine.

Your tolerance seems to be VERY low and so you wouldn't need much of this, I'd recommend snorting it rather than sublingual. I don't even know what to recommend for your tolerance. 1 or 2 mg? Wait and see what some other people say.

In the meantime search hydromorphone/dilaudid and read about it.
 
About the oxycodone/hydrocodone thing...is there APAP in the oxycodone pill? I like to snort my oxy. If there is a coating (probably is) I'd take that off. Hydrocodone at your dose I wouldn't bother going through any of the troubles involved in ROA's other than oral.
 
Bigginsmcgee,
All of your questions have been answered one thousand times on this site, and all over the web. I'm surprised your research didn't turn anything up. To answer some of your questions:
Best ROA for hydromorphone? IV is really the best (and for most, only) ROA to be considered for hydromorphone. It might be best to pass on the hydromorphone and choose something more recreational through alternate ROAs, such as oxycodone of hydrocodone. If you are dead set against it, and dead set on trying the hydromorphone, plugging is going to be the second choice. Shoving it up yer bum may sound unpleasant, but it's not so bad. The best way is to dissolve in water, and using a 3ml or 5ml syringe without a needle to insert the solution into your backside. Lay on your side while you do it, and stay in that position for about ten minutes. You probably won't want to move anyway.
Starting dose? If you are insistent upon eating these, you'll need about 5mg to start off. That's roughly equivalent to your oxy dose. If you plug or insufflate these, your starting dose should be about 1mg, two at most.
Sublingual hydromorphone? nope, the chemistry that causes hydromorphone's low BA is the same chemistry that prevents sublingual from being useful with hydromorphone.

Best thing to do is to find someone who does IV and give he/she those pills. They'll be happy, you won't be disappointed.
 
If you don't want to IV just insufflate a couple milligrams. Taking them orally is the worst ROA. Let us know what you decided and how it worked out.
 
Well, me and a buddy decided to split a 4mg pill. We snorted it, he loved the experience but I didn't like it so much. I did get high and all, but it was more so that the high itself didn't please me. I'm going to try once more with 4-8 MG total, see where I go. After that, depending on the experience, I'll probably put this drug down as I'm not into Injecting and the price so far doesn't seem justified.

Oh, and to clarify on my tolerances, despite only 15 mg of oxycodone getting me where I want, I usually take 40-60mg of hydrocodone to get where I wanna be.
 
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Bigginsmcgee said:
Well, me and a buddy decided to split a 4mg pill. We snorted it, he loved the experience but I didn't like it so much. I did get high and all, but it was more so that the high itself didn't please me. I'm going to try once more with 4-8 MG total, see where I go. After that, depending on the experience, I'll probably put this drug down as I'm not into Injecting and the price so far doesn't seem justified.

Oh, and to clarify on my tolerances, despite only 15 mg of oxycodone getting me where I want, I usually take 40-60mg of hydrocodone to get where I wanna be.
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Oh and I find Hydromorphone to be very rough on your stomach and head when snorted. I did 4mg my first time when I didn't know what I was doing, and I was geeking for about 7 hours. IVing is definitely the best route for me, though you've already said you don't do it.
 
well the hydromorphone pills ive got hold of 16mg one i think they are yellow rock hard pill if you split them open with pill cutter when its split half pill is grey which i think is just binder or what ever and other half is white waxy hm just incredibly hard to abuse just end up eating them
 
I suggest snorting half of the 8 mg pill, you will definitely feel it with such a little tolerance
 
Well I didnt realize how old this thread is but that's just for future knowledge
 
^Hehe, thanks man. :)

You seem to know what's up with thread necromancy, so I don't have to say anything other than....


Welcome to Bluelight!
 
Honestly your wasting your time bro. I have a lot of experience with prescription opiates. From Oxycodone all the way to Methadone and Fentanyl etc. As far as I new Hydromorphone or Dilaudid was apparently an extremely strong opiate that they would use even before and after surgery when in the hospital. I also heard it wasn't frequently prescribed outside of a hospital bed. So when I cam across a whole bottle of 4 MG Hydromorphone I was so exited and ready to get faded lol. I am a frequent Oxycodone user which is my Opiate of choice. When I took Hydromorphone I snorted it, as I do with my blues (Oxycodone 30 MG tablets). I snorted 12 MG's because I have a huge opiate tolerance. I felt somewhat high in the beginning but not really that great. So I snorted another 2 MG's. I felt the same maybe a little bit better. Just really numb, not euphoric really like my Oxycodone. I soon became ill. I could't really see at all. My vision was extremely blurry. I got horrible dry mouth, and my eyes were almost none existent pupil wise. They were just like big blues dots because I have blue eyes obvy lol. It was really just a waste of my time and just horrible, I did some research after that night to see just what I did wrong because I can't see anyone enjoying that and becoming addicted lol. As far as I found, anyone who's getting anything out of this drugs us shooting it. Which I will never do lol. And even then people complained about the high. Flush those pills man they are a waste of time that could honestly kill you...
 
^I don't shoot either but it does seem the people who like dilaudid the most are the shooters. It apparently hits real hard and that initial high is comparable to heroin, it seems it is shorter but stronger(stronger rush, shorter legs as is often said).
 
in 2009 i didn't know to say that (for some) IR hydromorphone can be plugged with extremely desirable results. it is definitely not an IV only opiate. but my understanding is that hydromorphone's bioavailability for the nasal and rectal ROAs varies greatly from individual to individual.

i'm not addicted to that ROA or anything either. even though for me the high from plugged dilly is better, i'd rather have fire dope because it's so quick, easy, and rewarding to blow. plugged hydromorphone still is dope. better. and not super short lasting like i hear about its IV use.
 
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