new to any drug, wanting some starter advice

[PaperMatePro]

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum, but most importantly I'm just new to drugs as whole.
I have a couple of questions regarding this type of drug, either MDMA or Ecstas, and yes I have read the huge thread for first time users, but I have yet to find any answers to some of the questions I have bottled up in my head..

- Since I'm not too comfortable taking pills in general, could I dissolve the pill in water?, if so how's the taste? Is there a pill that's good for beginners?
- How long does a usual trip last?
- What is "Rolling"

Those are the 3 I have for now, and sorry if I'm pissing off any veteran drug takers, I'm a complete dumbass in this field.

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[BlueBull]

Hey PaperMatePro, welcome to bluelight :D

Since you are new to this drug and to drugs in general, informing yourself is even more important than for people that are just new to MDMA itself. First thing you should do is get yourself a testkit. This is really necesarry since there are many harmful chemicals out there sold as MDMA, some of them have the potential of seriously harming you if ingested

Now for your questions (and please keep asking them if you have more. Again, information is very important when it comes to drugs)

• Yes, you can dissolve the pill in water. There are a few things to consider though: MDMA is very bad for your teeth since it's a caustic substance. If you only do it once it isn't that harmful but drinking water with MDMA in it will in the long run seriously damage your teeth. Also it's a bit harder to keep track of your dose this way, which is pretty important. Your initial dose needs to be big enough to get you to where you want to be but not too big, since taking more after the effects have begun mostly lengthens the roll, it only adds a bit to the intensity. Taking 2x60mg is going to produce less intense effects than taking 1x120mg will. You could calculate how much water you need to drink for a sufficient initial dose and put a mark on the bottle so you know how much you need to drink. The taste is pretty vile as well. I can't recommend a good pill for beginners since for instance a blue nike pill where I live might not be the same as a blue nike pill where you live. Use pillreports and ecstasydata to get an idea of how strong the pill you want to buy is, alongside a testkit of course. You can also ask about a pill in the regional pill forums (here, here or here) or in the Pillreports Discussion subforum
• If you only take one dose, you're probably looking at about 15-45 minutes to come up, 3-5 hours of plateau/peak (since it's your first time probably at the longer end of the range) and another hour to come down again. If you redose (not needed for your first time) you can add about another hour to the total duration, but timing is critical and the side-effects will be worse with a redose. These times are approximate, how full your stomach is, how much you weigh, mindset, purity of product,... all have a significant influence on the effects and the duration
• Rolling is what they call the effects of MDMA. You will understand when you've done it :D

You will never piss anyone here off by asking questions, that's what this forum is for, keep 'em coming

 

[FuckWithRaw]

Welcome to the forums
I wouldn't dissolve it as proper mdma taste like shit the duration should be roughly 6 hours till baseline and rolling is just a term for taking mdma.

 

[Black]

If you only take one dose, you're probably looking at about 15-45 minutes to come up

i just want to add that you really should not redose too early. if you don't feel anything or enough of an effect in that time span. pills usually come on later than powder (ime after 30-60 mins), but i know people who dosed crystals for their first time and didn't feel anything at all until it hit them all at once after 75 minutes. if they had redosed at the one hour mark they would have taken way too much.

 

[BlueBull]

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Agreed, 45 minutes is not enough. If you don't feel anything at this point either your drugs are low purity/adulterated or they are taking longer to come up. In both cases it isn't advised to take more. If 1 decent dose doesn't seem to affect you even after 1,5h, don't take more either

 

[PaperMatePro]

Hm, because I have a rave coming up and it's like a bit after work, and I want to get ready before the rave, and to ultimately have fun.

Is there a way where I could consume the pill and not taste it? Like my work is really fucked, and I prefer not to swallow pills since I have a past experience that wasn't too enjoyable.

 

[BlueBull]

Hm, because I have a rave coming up and it's like a bit after work, and I want to get ready before the rave, and to ultimately have fun.

Is there a way where I could consume the pill and not taste it? Like my work is really fucked, and I prefer not to swallow pills since I have a past experience that wasn't too enjoyable.

Wrap it in a cigarette rolling paper or some tp and swallow with some water, you won't taste it that way

 

[tacodude]

Honestly if it's a pill swallow it whole. You won't taste it unless you chew it and it's less of a shock to the system letting the pill dissolve vs all of it dissolved at once.

Edit :unless it's a 200+mg pill split it into four and take one, save the other for a redose, and give the other two to a close friend to do the same. Maybe cut two chunks bigger than the other two to make 1.5+1.5+0.5+0.5 parts of the pill. Of course easier said than done.

 

[Kl519]

DAMN IT, I wish I knew what BlueBull posted. I use to freakin' chew the pills thinking I'm cool. I'm such a dumb ass.

At least I would pick them out with a toothpick after, but still.

 

[BlueBull]

DAMN IT, I wish I knew what BlueBull posted. I use to freakin' chew the pills thinking I'm cool. I'm such a dumb ass.

At least I would pick them out with a toothpick after, but still.

Yeah I wish I knew back then what I know now. Fucked up my teeth pretty bad doing the exact same thing. Until I noticed my teeth were starting to chip and someone told me MDMA seriously corrodes your teeth. Everyone over here used to chew their pills so what's the harm, right? :D

 

[Ainslinn]

Hi and welcome. I am new here myself, but something told me to share this story wiyh you. Please get a test kit. Last year a good friend of mine lost his wife. She took MDMA and it was cut with something bad ( didn't get it from her usual supplier). She left behind two kids and a husband all because she didn't know what was in the drug she was taking. What a fucking stupid way to die. Anyway i am not trying to scare you, just please know what is in the drug you are taking before you take it.

 

[Cereals]

Get your pills beforehand. Test them, then you shouldn't have any problems. I'm not sure what your aversion is to the pill itself, but if you're grinding it into water, drink it fast. It tastes like shit, and can leave chemical burns in your mouth and throat. If it's your first time, don't freak out when coming up, puke if you have to, and remind yourself it's a drug. You'll feel anxiety, and maybe feel like something is wrong, let the first few waves pass, then you should be goods! At a rave, I have to do it in the bathroom. I come up hard and fast, even at low doses. I usually puke, and sit the first wave out.

 

[Cereals]

And rolling is the term used because the high typically has a wave effect. Like you're riding a kids roller coaster. You'll get strong waves of euphoria, and it may even be too strong at times, just remember to take a breather when you feel overwhelmed,and let the wave pass.

 

[Cereals]

Also! A "pill for beginners" doesn't exist. There's pills with varying doses, some high, some low, but you can't ever trust what you've been told about it unless you've sent the pill away yourself. Pill reports can give you insight into pills in your area, but some people replicate those pills with other (cheaper) stuff.

 

[Kl519]

Yeah I wish I knew back then what I know now. Fucked up my teeth pretty bad doing the exact same thing. Until I noticed my teeth were starting to chip and someone told me MDMA seriously corrodes your teeth. Everyone over here used to chew their pills so what's the harm, right? :D

Haha, thank you. Yeah, fuck downing with water, it takes a man to chew the pills...



I almost forgot to add one more downside to my usage. I had a problem with grinding my teeth when I'm sober (supposedly I grind it hard when I'm sleeping), but I have a feeling the mdma just added to that problem, so one of my teeth are pushed/wedged in. It's hard for anyone to tell, well, except the dentists. And here's another smile for them.

I could be totally wrong though. But the lesson of today is: do not chew the pills! I'm a quitter, so I can say this with a straight face.