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Stimulants New to adderall?

Pineappleexpress42

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Hi, I'm new to adderall and stims in general and I just tried it first today. I've heard about
A lot of sudden death cases involving stims and that worries me. I was wondering if I abuse it knowing my limits, and doing so in te most responsible way possible what are my chances of dieing from a stim (addrall,ritallin) if used fairly? Also I'm young so if that helps, and I have heart palputations but the doc thinks its from acid. And my step sis has a Leakey valve. No other family problems I know of. Thanks
 
its only really if you have a underlying heart defect that you don't know of or if you have one and know of it and (abuse mainly) take stimulants.

be careful it has nothing to do with your limits really, unless we are talking about you taking a hell of a lot and you have chest pains and shit

but i mean if you have a cardiovascular issue then you may need to worry, but otherwise you should be ok...

note: these over time can cause a cardio issue but its really if you have one to begin with.. you know...


just because your family doesn't doesn't mean you don't but its a good chance things are probably (PROBABLY) ok... just monitor your symptoms, and vitals, and get checked out, I would...

heart palpitations from acid itself is unlikely, ANXIETY from acid, maybe... but regardless palpitations themselves unless certain cases, or regular all the time every few minute palpitations.... are usually benign if its not too bad... meaning palpitations are usually ok.. nothing to really worry about... but anxiety over it only will make it worse...
 
Ok thank for the response, I just get nervous with stims bec I new and if I take a vic/oxy/benzo/sleeping pill etc I don't worry about having a heart attack bec you never really hear about that with those but thanks for the info. And I don't know if I was clear but I'm talking about acid as in acid reflux like pepto bismall type of thing not LSD lol.
 
When I was on adderal I did my fair amount of abuse (and I was pretty young at the time, 11 or 12 when I first got on it and 12 or 13 when I was snorting it, about 5 to 10 20mg instant release - the orange pills - on any given night). I never had any problems and although I have had what I thought were heart problems when doing lots of coke I think it was probably just panic attacks so be careful!
 
Just be sure to do your research about reducing the harm from abusing the drug. If you are abusing the drug then I'm sure that you will be doing plenty of research on it since that's what adderall will make you do.

If Tricomb pops in here he will be able to tell you a lot of harm reduction for amphetamines since I've seen him mention a lot of stuff about it before. I just know basic things such as staying hydrated, making sure to eat while on it, taking a multivitamin, and trying not to wank all day. He's got more specifics though, and has mentioned things I've never even heard of before.
 
Just be sure to do your research about reducing the harm from abusing the drug. If you are abusing the drug then I'm sure that you will be doing plenty of research on it since that's what adderall will make you do.

If Tricomb pops in here he will be able to tell you a lot of harm reduction for amphetamines since I've seen him mention a lot of stuff about it before. I just know basic things such as staying hydrated, making sure to eat while on it, taking a multivitamin, and trying not to wank all day. He's got more specifics though, and has mentioned things I've never even heard of before.



lol it will make you do research on it alright.. if thats what you meant...

research about the drug itself while on the drug is all i do half the time...

take the multivitamin (if it includes vitamin c.. ascorbic acid) at the end so you don't damage the amphetamine and end your session... or just dont take vitamin c before or with the adderall, and tums your stomach up after taking it to keep your GI tract basic and not acidic... this is crucial...

yes tho this doesnt mean never take vitamin c

lol it will make you do research on it alright.. if thats what you meant...

research about the drug itself while on the drug is all i do half the time...

take the multivitamin (if it includes vitamin c.. ascorbic acid) at the end so you don't damage the amphetamine and end your session... or just dont take vitamin c before or with the adderall, and tums your stomach up after taking it to keep your GI tract basic and not acidic... this is crucial...

yes tho this doesnt mean never take vitamin c

Ok thank for the response, I just get nervous with stims bec I new and if I take a vic/oxy/benzo/sleeping pill etc I don't worry about having a heart attack bec you never really hear about that with those but thanks for the info. And I don't know if I was clear but I'm talking about acid as in acid reflux like pepto bismall type of thing not LSD lol.

ooo thats diffferent lol and yes it could very well be...
 
Thanks everyone, it's 12:45 am now school I'd have to wake up at 6, what should I do just wait or try and find Benadryl to knock me out or somthing. I had roughly 10mgs 11 am this morning 20mgs at 12 10 mgs at 3 and 10mgs at 8pm. Idk it's my first time I still feel buzzin.


Just took my heart rate- 112 bpm
 
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take it after sitting or laying down not moving or talking for 15 min... to get your true resting heart rate... with sleep yeah that benadryl will help too any more than 50-75mg (at the most) tho and it wont

for your first time especially if it was XR you took, idk but you may or may not sleep for a while tonight...

stimulants too may cause anxiety about having a heart attack or other shit... hell they make me anxious over shit like that all the time still... other irrational, or not so irrational if you think about it, stuff too...
 
Ok well I looked around the house I can't find Benadryl, I'm prob just gunna end up staying up till school, great -_-. I feel kinda nauseas I just had 2 bowls of rice idk maybe it was the food. And that was it after sitting down for about the past 30 min.


Why is that bad for laying down on stims? :(
 
its not bad to lay down

that sucks you can't find benadryl..

yeah the food too can be the cause of that especially if you haven't eaten all day
 
Yeah ik, I'll just deal it out I'll have more in the morning so it would be safe to re dose in small amounts right? And yeah I feel Hungry tho, I thought I wouldint bec of it but I think it's bec it's wearing off bec about a hour ago or so I got what felt like super bad depression. Thanks so much though benzo head for sticking with and talking to me.

Also do you suggest I don't eat for now, even though I'm hungry but at same time nauseas?
 
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I find it easiest to eat anything but bread. Meat is usually the easiest for me to eat when I have no appetite due to amphetamines, but if solids aren't going to happen then soup/stew usually works. Yogurt works too.

As for sleep, doxylamine (generic for Unisom) works better than benadryl for that and it's OTC too, so you might want to try that. If all you have on you is benadryl then that's fine, but I would stock up on doxylamine in the near future.

As for redosing, I try not to do that as it's a sure-fire way to build a rapid amphetamine tolerance. I find it better to take 1 single dose if you are using it recreationally (I would only redose when taking it therapeutically for ADD) because if you try chasing the high you will never catch it. Taking more won't bring back the initial high, but will just prolong the comedown.

Time it so that you can take it, enjoy it, and still get some sleep. Basically late enough so that the one dose will last you the rest of the day and by the time it's wearing off it's time for sleep so redosing wouldn't really be an option, but early enough that you can still get some sleep.
 
If you're going to do amphetamines in spite of the drawbacks (which I should hope you are fluent in, since you're choosing to abuse the drug.) then it's important that you do everything possible to educate yourself on the ramifications of your drug abuse. You've made the first step towards achieving the first goal, the next step is to do research on this medication with multiple CREDIBLE sources. Bluelight is a great start, better than most! Please take advantage of our search engine, it loves getting any shred of attention. Other examples of credible sources include pubmed, PDR (Physicians Desk Reference), peer reviewed studies, work that is CITED/QUALIFIED.

If you have a heart condition, you're reaaaaally taking a gamble taking amphetamines. I'll tell you right now that Adderall is not worth cardiac arrest. Providing that you know this but for whatever reason do not care:

-Hydration: Amphetamines dry you out, and that meth mouth you hear about, it's primarily caused by the xerostomia (dry mouth), lack of dental hygiene, and ingestion of junk, sugar-filled, processed, partially hydrogenated shit food. I'm sure smoking cigarettes on top of that doesn't help (and will probably raise your risk of heart attack exponentially with amphetamines) so be sure to avoid cancerous and otherwise hazardous materials.

-Hygiene: As we covered, dental. Also, general hygiene. Amphetamines make you stay awake, and they stimulate you, often to the point of you physically exerting yourself moreso than normally. They also lower your inhibitions, significantly (although YMMV) which has pros and cons. Therefore, take a shower once you start to feel the effects begin to wear off, it will feel good and be fun, but don't stay in for very long because it dehydrates you and wastes water, a resource which is being exhausted at a rate which cannot be sustained, and one day will be worth more than any commodity you have ever seen, oil, gold, diamonds, combined. Unlike those things, we cannot live without water.

-Nutrition: Avoid the processed crap that I brought up earlier, the stuff that contributes to meth mouth, diabetes, cardiac/overall disease. Regardless of your appetite, you must eat healthy complete meals, and after your done eating, you're going to take some vitamins. What you're going to take is:
1) a complete multivitamin(s) (read the nutritional information on the side, often the serving size is two tablets, not one)
2) Chelated magnesium
3) Vitamin D
4) Omega-3 fatty acids.

Each and every one of these is critical to your experience, for best results, do not consume amphetamines if you cannot do these simple tasks to protect your well-being.

-Sleep: A real problem with amphetamines. Many people take CNS depressants to counter the effects but that's a great way to pickup two dependencies at once. Sleep is perhaps the most important of all things you can do. It's one thing that distinguishes newbies from veterans, knowing when to sleep. I don't care how far the concept of sleep may feel, no matter how out of reach, you must attempt to sleep. Staying up for longer than 24 hours at a time, from what I've seen, if you stay up that long, you're gunna have a bad time.
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Not sleeping on amphetamines leaves the door wide open for psychosis. Also, sleep deprivation puts incredible stress on your heart, with a heart condition and family history, you really can't afford to be taking all these risks without consequences, it's bad enough that you're abusing such potent CNS stimulants. Make yourself a nice sleepytime tea, take that hot shower and get in bed and lay down.

Be aware that it's pretty easy to tell (even to the most untrained of eyes) when people are tweaking, your judgement will be slightly off and you won't notice it, it's the lowered inhibitions I mentioned earlier. If you don't keep your dosing low, people you interact with will know. Do not drive or operate heavy machinery while under the influence of amphetamine, it endangers your life and the lives of others.

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Ok, Thank you very much you guys. Tricomb you had said that I have a heart condition? My step sister has a Leakey valve would that matter? I will try my best to sleep but I really doubt it's gunna happen. And you also said how it puts strain on your heart, do you think it's so much strain as to not use some tomorrow to make it through the day? ( I have school )

I'm kinda nervous as to how my heart rate is still around 100 Bpm and im just sitting here. It's not really fast but fast enough, I can feel my heart rate resonate in my body.
 
Didn't you mention you had a heart condition and that your sister did too? If I misread you I apologize, but regardless of your health, family history of heart disease would be pretty much just as dangerous, especially when it's your sibling, who is more identical genetically to you than anyone else, and many heart conditions are congenital.

Not sleeping is out of the question, and taking more adderall to make it through the day at school is going to really suck. I really hope you're the kind of person who can learn from others mistakes without having to make that mistake yourself, because that's exactly what I said you should avoid. I should have added that to my post, taking more amphetamines is going to make everything worse.

How did you measure your heart rate, did you use a legit digital blood pressure machine or are you estimating? I don't trust myself to estimate something as important as my blood pressure, especially when using potent CNS stimulants, which is why I invested in a digital one.
 
100 isnt bad i mean on amphetamine...

no one can tell you if you're going to die on bluelight... assuming YOU don't have an issue with your heart, and need to take it to get through the day tomorrow, i am not going to say do it, or not do it... personally though if you had to take it because you were falling asleep during something important, i don't see much harm in taking a smaller dose to get through the day... if you feel fine though and you don't have to then don't...

again 100 bpm isn't bad, you are doing more than just sitting there though, you're moving around at the slightest at least, stimulating your brain from the computer, moving your hands to type... laying down, that bpm may drop ... in theory it should unless you got frustrated from not being able to sleep...

but 100 isn't dangerously high it is considered tachycardia once you hit 100 though . its not straining it so much though... nm...

you will be okay, just listen to what Tricomb said the above post is pretty good.... being nervous will make your heart beat faster and harder, make your breathing faster, raise your anxiety and stress... make things worse... anxiety is a major side effect and is a cause of many things on amphetamine... many bad things...
 
Tricomb no, I have acid reflux bec of heart palputations. And I just did it myself also yeah sleepings not gunna happen I can tell by how amped up I feel right now if it continues at this rate I'll have trouble sleeping tomorrow lol. And yeah I can tell I already have anxiety w/o stims pretty bad. Ik my heart rate is fine, I didint do a rediculous amount and I'm a highschooler so I should be fine. But my anxiety makes me feel all squirmy I feel very nervous like I'm awaiting a heart attack. Scary shit

I can feel the strain on my heart like if your exercising for a while really hard and you can feel you over worked it, I get so fucking paranoid.


When I try to close my eyes to fall asleep I can't Im totally wide awake, it sucks.
 
I still feel extremely pukey, I've eaten grapes and rice. I don't know of I'm just really hungry or if I'm getting a more upset stomach from eating? This sucks
 
Being a highschooler has nothing to do with whether you'll be fine or not.

You're really hungry, malnourished and probably dehydrated, from not following my post. Go to sleep, get off the computer, turn off the distractions.
 
Despite what tricomb said; if you believe you are going to have a heart attack, this is a medical emergency and you need to call 911 - emergency services.

With that being said. Panic attacks are common with stimulant use and mimic the symptoms of a heart attack. Especially stimulant related panic attacks. They happen to me all the time.
 
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