Stimulants NEW TO ADDERALL- DOSAGE ISSUES- 80 MG? please help

[icameasarat]

Hey guys,
I'm in my first month of Adderall IR usage and my tolerance seems to be extremely high. I have searched and searched for reasons why but have come up with no answers. From all that I have read, peoples tolerance go up over a longer (few months +) period of time from regular use, but never in the first few weeks. Today I took A TOTAL OF 80 MG trying to get up and feel nothing besides anxiety that I have dosed myself way too much. I am worried and confused.

Here is my experience with amphetamines:

My first time, I took 20 mg and felt.. wonderfully speedy (Just what I was looking for) I was mildly-euphoric, content, socially comfortable, outgoing, focused on what I was fixated on. Negative effects were VERY dry mouth, insomnia and unintentionally gnawing on my inner cheek and bottom lip. I got that effect the FIRST time, and got a similar but much milder effect the next few times I popped Adderall (upped it to 30 mg). After that, it seems like I just can't get UP. 30 mg didn't do anything, so I decided to stop taking it for a bit. After about a 12 day break, i popped em and got semi-buzzed from 30 mg. I felt the effects about 4 times after that, but I had upped it to 40 mg the last 2 times I got the amphetamines effect.
I tried taking tums, because I read that that helps with the absorption but it made no difference for me. I am female, age 26, height 5'5 and weigh 123 pounds

I just took 80 mg today and feel nothing, just anxiety about how much I took, some twitching in my eye and muscle spasms. I read under the warning that you should not exceed 50 mg unless otherwise specified.

I am worried about overdosing myself if I keep increasing the dose in order to obtain an effect. I don't believe its normal/healthy for my tolerance to skyrocket like this just have taking the adderall a little over 10 times. How much is too much? Did I take too much? Am I doing something wrong?

Also, I should mention that this seems to be a reoccurring problem with medication. When I was suffering from insomnia, I was prescribed Trazodone as a sleep aid. 100 mg barely worked when most people report being knocked out for 14 hours on that dosage. IF I was to take MDMA, I know that 1 gram would only get me mildly high. I've experimented with opiates a tiny bit but did not got much of a high from it. I am on flouxotine (prozac) high dosage because nothing less would work. Is there something wrong with me and how my body metabolizes and absorbs things??? Should I see a doctor about it?
I will also add that I have no history of drug addiction, I just use recreational and for treatment of my depression. I do have a tendency to not know when I have had enough, and I have battled alcoholism a bit. I used to drink a lot and pretty often but no longer. I don't know if this would increase my tolerance to EVERYTHING but thought I should mention it, just in case.

Any opinions, information, insight etc would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

You're dosing too high. Don't increase the dose every time. Amphetamines tolerance can grow very fast. You need to take a break and give yourself some time to drop the tolerance down. If you're chasing the feeling of the first high or first couple highs with amphetamines you must understand you'll never recapture that original feeling again.

Prozac is well-known to reduce the effectiveness of MDMA, and I'm not sure about amphetamines but mixing amphetamines with antidepressants is something you need to be careful with anyway.

 

[icameasarat]

thank you for the reply. I have looked into it and read that the there aren't any drug interactions between the SSRI prozac and adderall. I did read that there is a risk of serotonin syndrome from taking the combination. I am assuming that since its a rare occurrence, one would have to takr an insane amount of the meds for that to result. (Do u have any more information on that?)
I'd as like to note that I am experiencing pains in my chest now. I'm refraining from google searching anything about a high dose of adderall so that i wont psychosomatically create symptoms out of anxiety.

 

[sekio]

Having amphetamines lose their efficacy as euphoriants with continual use is normal. The effects get more and more subtle, but the physical stimulation will remain. Everyone develops tolerance at a different rate. that at this point it's very likely the amphetamine is doing what it's supposed to do; you are just not noticing the pleasurable component of the high. Also, set and setting plays a role in amphetamine consumption. If you take amphetamine while stressed out it will not work anywhere near as well as taking it when you're well fed and rested.

Amphetamine, in general, does not cause serotonin syndrome, because it does not really release appreciable amounts of serotonin at normal dose ranges. However, hyperadrenergic and hypertensive effects like chest pains, anxiety, paranoia, racing thoughts, and the like are normal side effects of a large amphetamine dose. Just lay down somewhere cool (avoid overheating), have some fluids on hand, and try your best to do something productive. In future: don't increase your dose 40mg at a time, and take longer breaks.

IF I was to take MDMA, I know that 1 gram would only get me mildly high.

The MDMA you're getting is terrible quality then. For all but the heaviest people, about 150 to 200mg of MDMA in one oral dose is enough to have them floored. Even the "hard heads" don't need more than 200mg.

 

[Crashing]

It's probably not MDMA that you're getting. Sounds more like MEC. Another thing is prozac is gonna dull out mental effects from pretty much anything you take, but the physical effects will pretty much remain the same. You took 80mg of amp 'trying' to get up and you feel like you've taken way too much, then obviously you are up. That's the high, it's not gonna blow your mind or anything, it's just an average stimulant.

 

[sekio]

Oh - if you're on Prozac a lot of drugs that act on postsynaptic serotonin receptors or the serotonin transporter (e.g. MDMA, LSD and the like) are going to be much less effective.

 

[KA7X]

Im new to adds. Ive taken a 30mg capsule and havent really felt any sort of 'high'. Im more awake. I took just the beads orally. Do you have any suggestions?

 

[Herpe The Clown]

I would imagine your just not feeling the "high" from the adderal because of tolerance, the high will diminish quickly yet the actual stimulant effects remain. As you said your're experiencing anxiety which is no surprise, 80mg of aderall is not a low dose to even some tolerant users.

Are you still experiencing other stimulant effects? Boost of energy, lack of appetite, elevated heart rate/blood pressure, bruxism (jaw clenching), dry mouth...

 

[Ksa]

Hey guys,
I'm in my first month of Adderall IR usage and my tolerance seems to be extremely high. I have searched and searched for reasons why but have come up with no answers. From all that I have read, peoples tolerance go up over a longer (few months +) period of time from regular use, but never in the first few weeks. Today I took A TOTAL OF 80 MG trying to get up and feel nothing besides anxiety that I have dosed myself way too much. I am worried and confused.

Here is my experience with amphetamines:

My first time, I took 20 mg and felt.. wonderfully speedy (Just what I was looking for) I was mildly-euphoric, content, socially comfortable, outgoing, focused on what I was fixated on. Negative effects were VERY dry mouth, insomnia and unintentionally gnawing on my inner cheek and bottom lip. I got that effect the FIRST time, and got a similar but much milder effect the next few times I popped Adderall (upped it to 30 mg). After that, it seems like I just can't get UP. 30 mg didn't do anything, so I decided to stop taking it for a bit. After about a 12 day break, i popped em and got semi-buzzed from 30 mg. I felt the effects about 4 times after that, but I had upped it to 40 mg the last 2 times I got the amphetamines effect.
I tried taking tums, because I read that that helps with the absorption but it made no difference for me. I am female, age 26, height 5'5 and weigh 123 pounds

I just took 80 mg today and feel nothing, just anxiety about how much I took, some twitching in my eye and muscle spasms. I read under the warning that you should not exceed 50 mg unless otherwise specified.

I am worried about overdosing myself if I keep increasing the dose in order to obtain an effect. I don't believe its normal/healthy for my tolerance to skyrocket like this just have taking the adderall a little over 10 times. How much is too much? Did I take too much? Am I doing something wrong?

Also, I should mention that this seems to be a reoccurring problem with medication. When I was suffering from insomnia, I was prescribed Trazodone as a sleep aid. 100 mg barely worked when most people report being knocked out for 14 hours on that dosage. IF I was to take MDMA, I know that 1 gram would only get me mildly high. I've experimented with opiates a tiny bit but did not got much of a high from it. I am on flouxotine (prozac) high dosage because nothing less would work. Is there something wrong with me and how my body metabolizes and absorbs things??? Should I see a doctor about it?
I will also add that I have no history of drug addiction, I just use recreational and for treatment of my depression. I do have a tendency to not know when I have had enough, and I have battled alcoholism a bit. I used to drink a lot and pretty often but no longer. I don't know if this would increase my tolerance to EVERYTHING but thought I should mention it, just in case.

Any opinions, information, insight etc would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

Adderall, especially from certain brands have a history of randomly stop working for no reason at all. Talk to your doctor to switch to Dexedrine and if tolerance continues with that, only then you shall be concerned. Adderall is unreliable especially to ADHDers, there has been endless reports of it just not working even after 2 days. One day it works, the other it doesn't. Nobody knows why that is but many with your issue had it resolved by switching to dex.

At least 200 reports stated that Adderall was working fine for 3 months and when they got a refill, it felt like total placebo. It's a medical mystery xD

 

[Elkat13]

Even with a downer, which should be helping your anxiety, Adderall should really never be prescribed at those high levels. Why not do meth at that high dose (I'm not really suggesting this!) But Adderall makes me shakier, and has high anxiety than recreational meth. So really you get to think about it as almost the same drug. I fell back into meth after taking Adderall at high dosages like that, because I figured I could handle it this time around after 7 years. Big mistake, but the mistake started when I started going over the doctors recommended dosage. I still think I could benefit from one Adderall a day, but I can't trust myself. Don't think of it like trying to get high either. If you are using it as a meth substitute, it doesn't have the same euphoric effect. it just brings up your anxiety. You need the real illegal stuff for euphoria, unfortunately.

 

[Ksa]

Even with a downer, which should be helping your anxiety, Adderall should really never be prescribed at those high levels. Why not do meth at that high dose (I'm not really suggesting this!) But Adderall makes me shakier, and has high anxiety than recreational meth. So really you get to think about it as almost the same drug. I fell back into meth after taking Adderall at high dosages like that, because I figured I could handle it this time around after 7 years. Big mistake, but the mistake started when I started going over the doctors recommended dosage. I still think I could benefit from one Adderall a day, but I can't trust myself. Don't think of it like trying to get high either. If you are using it as a meth substitute, it doesn't have the same euphoric effect. it just brings up your anxiety. You need the real illegal stuff for euphoria, unfortunately.

no...dex is legal

 

[p0rk_sw0rd]

Im new to adds. Ive taken a 30mg capsule and havent really felt any sort of 'high'. Im more awake. I took just the beads orally. Do you have any suggestions?

At least chew up the beads or crush them up finely and eat or snort to (mostly) defeat the time-release mechanism. 30 mg is a low time-released dose, but a very effective instant release dose... To me it has a very mild pill taste which grows on you, well me anyway.

Like others said though, it's not really a euphoric "high". You should feel good, but actual euphoria is lacking. I find the huge boost in focus to be the best part and I love it...

 

[FishJuice31]

If you want a euphoric feeling with adderall, Smoke weed. A lot of it. You get a great weed high that also intensifies the adderall's effect. I have yet to find a high that is as good as weed and adderall. Btw I have a fairly new prescription for adderall but I have been smoking for a while and just this past day I combined the two and found the results to be extraordinary.

 

[omnipresenthuman]

with my past history of using/abusing Adderall for a few years, let me give you some advice - don't use Adderall, or amphetamines of any kind. Live longer that way.

 

[piller97]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but as many others will tell you.....tolerance to amphetamines develop EXTREMELY quickly.
Anyone that tells you that amphetamine tolerance can only develop over months is mistaken, this may be the case when starting at a very low does, but starting with a dose like 20mg, it could take as little as 1 or 2 times(effects may still be there but the "speediness" won't be as pronounced)
You didn't help yourself by increasing the dose constantly.


That "wonderfully speedy" feeling is indeed wonderful........but is not feasible to maintain.


IME the only way to experience that speedy feeling consistently is by starting at an insanely low dose, building up over a couple of days.....then taking a long break(1-1.5 months, if you only did it one day, theres a chance you could probably lower the break period to a week or two).

Also, as far as the potential effect of prozac. I believe that it would only be significant in regards to MDMA as MDMA has a significantly greater effect on serotonin than normal amphetamines do. I believe it can have a slight effect when combined with amphetamines, but in my experience their is no noticeable difference(i have been prescribed Prozac as well as a number of others SSRIs at the same time that I've been prescribed adderall)


If what you're after is the "speedy" feeling.......its impossible to maintain.
Amphetamines can be wonderful, but they can also be a curse.
Be careful.

I hope your well.
-P

 

[purplehaze147]

I find that with keeping the doses low tolerence doesn't build up too much and it stays euphoric even with regular/daily use. IMO amphetamines feel best at low repeated dosages. I can snort 10mg of dexedrine (pure dextro-amp a lil more potent than adderall) followed by 10mg a couple hours later and get a good euphoric feeling everyday even with weeks of continuous use. High doses build up tolerance too fast and have too many side effects, IMO low doses r where it's at.

Take a break for a week and your tolerance will go down significantly maybe down to zero since you just started using.