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damn that is sketchy, i guess if you are gonna sell your strips then it would be much safer for you to repackage them in something else.
 
dEFINITELY.. yo onc eI heard that I was like SHIT even if you give them toa friend and he like gets caught with it in a car.. so I did just that I repackaged mine lol the ones I trade for weed
 
WHo is to say you didn't losoe them.. like leave 10 of them on the bus or something then some stranger turned around adn told them
 
exactly what i was thinking. im not even sure if the seattle police have the scanner thing. It was an on the fly deal. I met up with my ex black guy (i quit, 2 months clean) who also sells bars and i was buying some bars and told him i had strips so we then traded strips for bars. Point being i didnt re package them. I told his girl to try and scratch off the codes but they were both loaded. he said they had some "pure" black (hahahah) and she shot .3 I believe it was some good stuff because she was noddin hard. We all know even the blow tar in the NW isnt close to pure so what ever. moral of the story im sure the codes did not get scratched off or repackaged.
 
Slututex: cute Nick. Anyways in regards to your post, I commend the length and time of your post and research, but I am confused... " , I wake up a little early in the morning and place it under my tongue and lay back down for about half an hour. Since the mouth is so dry in the morning, it causes less saliva to be secreted and therefore the film dissolves slower and is absorbed more efficiently. plus, being half asleep, or totally asleep during the process of dissolving it helps me to ignore the nasty taste of these, which is still not
as bad as the tablets. Just make sure that you do NOT fall asleep for more than half an hour w these in your mouth, because it can ruin your dose. I'm sure most of you have found that no matter when you've taken your dose, as soon as you nap for half an hour you wake up sick. " while it is correct to absorb longer, you are not to lay down completely because it'll run into your throat, stomach, etc. Also your less dry comment is untrue because u r advised (if properly) to drink a little bit of water before and to do nothing while it J's dissolving. Anal and vaginal plugs should work, I do not get the reason u would roll up the strip. The strip is never to touch other strips simply for the fact of absorption. So I recommend re-appraising your current methods. I personally find that strips work vegetable snorting the pill version is more intense but lasts shorter. Also I have a question - anyone who has seriously researched heroin knows it is more easily absorbed with aspirin. That is why dormin may intensify h and stuff besides acting as a water soluble filler for people that have ever whipped anything up. I hear milk thistle makes suboxone last longer... has anyone else heard any other way it more on the thistle about this? I am intrigued. I also believe that with that right amount of work anything basically can be injected. Ant one know about the alcohol affect of preparing an iv of suboxone? because I know it works with fentinol to allow u to shoot them. Which is dangerous, fentinol is very intense. Anyone know anything further? thank you for your time and posts! :)
 
any new drug has a 5 or 10 year no generic policy...think of it as a patent....The pharm co that did all the R&D to develop Suboxone gets to recoup those cost....I'm on it as well for 4 yrs.. This drug will net 5 Billion dollars when generics are cleared to be produced.
 
Thought I should bring this up in the spirit of harm reduction. I was cruising another forum about using suboxone film iv, and someone mentioned that one of the inactive ingredients is methyl cellulose, which supposedly can cause a buildup of plaque and fatty nodes in your veins with constant use. I tried to do some further research into methylcellulose, but couldn't anything about the effects of shooting it up (how surprising that there wouldn't be a study about this kind of thing!) so hopefully this isn't really as bad as it sounds but maybe someone else here could shed some light on the issue
 
Znegative said:
Thought I should bring this up in the spirit of harm reduction. I was cruising another forum about using suboxone film iv, and someone mentioned that one of the inactive ingredients is methyl cellulose, which supposedly can cause a buildup of plaque and fatty nodes in your veins with constant use. I tried to do some further research into methylcellulose, but couldn't anything about the effects of shooting it up (how surprising that there wouldn't be a study about this kind of thing!) so hopefully this isn't really as bad as it sounds but maybe someone else here could shed some light on the issue
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I'm going to investigate this now. "Fatty nodes in your veins" could you feel this in your veins?? My veins feel fine.

Using this resource I created, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose is water soluble indeed however I did not find particle size information on it.

According to wiki... it's a thickening agent. I'd imagine if you diluted your films enough it woudln't matter?? I don't have any lumps on my veins.
 
I think if you micron filter you probably wouldn't have to worry about it. I also read conflicting reports, someone on another forum said that it is only soluble in hot/room temp. Water, and then I think I read on wikipedia, that it only dissolves in really cold water. Also I should note that in my Owen scouring of the web I only saw one person bring this up, but I thought if there was any truth to it, it should probably be mentioned here just in case. I know I shot suboxone films for months and it didn't seem to effect me any worse than shooting other formulas or prescription pills did, and I didn't use a micron filter, but since this is a harm reduction forum I'm not going to recommend anyone to take the chance
 
suboxone sublingual film

hey I've come across some suboxone sublingual film 8mg/2mg. that's what the package says i can give more info if needed. im very experienced with opiates but this is something I've never tried. i was looking for some insight on what to expect and also how i can get the most out of them. i have a very high tolerance to opiates btw. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thank you.
 
What is a "very high tolerance?"

Here are a few things you must know about suboxone.
-You can't mix it with other opiates
-Taking it too soon (less than 24 hrs) after your last dose of another opiate will cause precipitated withdrawals
-It can block other opiates from working up to 3 days after taking it

The high lasts very long, and it doesn't really increase if you exceed 8mgs. Most people prefer lower doses, so 2mgs is a good dose to start with. You can take it under your tongue, or make a spray with it my cutting 1/4 of the strip (2mg) and mixing it with water, and administering it into your nose, very slowly. It can be done with an oral syringe, or some sort of dropper. I just stick with putting it under my tongue.
 
I took Suboxone as a maintenence drug upon leaving Rehab for opiate addiction. Yes its true u have to be opiate free for 24 hours before taking. The "high" is not like a regular opiate high. But if ur desperate...lol. And yes it also true that u have to have the Suboxone out your system before getting high on opiates. For instance I took it for three months (after the first few days u don't get "high" anymore) and it took 10 days before I could get high off pills.
 
I wouldn't call it a "high", more like "effects", the effects mainly being that it alleviates withdrawal symptoms. If you already have a "high" tolerance to opiates it probably won't do much for you, or if it does it will likely only be the first few times you take it. Not a drug you want to get hooked on unless you're trying to get clean off other opiates and ready to not get high anymore.

Are you already addicted to and physically dependent on opiates?

There are tons of threads on buprenorphine on here already, do a search.
 
If you have an opiate tolerance Suboxone will probably get you high once. After that all it will do is stave off withdrawal symptoms.

Drugs like Suboxone and Methadone aren't good to get high on. All they will do is make getting high on other opiates difficult and costly. They are tools, to be used for maintenance or in a pinch when you can't get right.
 
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If you have an opiate tolerance Suboxone will probably get you high once. After that all it will do is stave off withdrawal symptoms.

Drugs like Suboxone and Methadone aren't good to get high on. All they will do is make getting high on other opiates difficult and costly. They are tools, to be used for maintenance or in a pinch when you can't get right.
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I find methadone nothing like suboxone at all.

It's really weird, when I had no tolerance and 20 2mg pills I got high, nodding out every day for a month with no withdrawal. Methadone doesn't make me nod like other sedating opioids like morphine. Suboxone never got me as high or was very sedating ever again. I have a tolerance now, not big, and it fluctuates between two weeks clean and mild to mild/ moderate. My friend have me a 4mg piece and I got high, just not very fun high. Methadone always works. It's not as euphoric (it still is) as oxy or morphine, but what it lacks in umph it makes up in duration. I took probably 50 mg sunday (had been taking some for a few days) and no more after, and felt it today pretty good when I took more.

I've also never had full withdrawal from methadone, thank god, but is it similar to suboxone? Like milder than morphine withdrawals but crazily longer? I take the methadone after a bunch of roxies and it seems to leave so slowly I've had a single high dose turn hardcore withdrawal into being high then nothing. Withdrawals are there but hard to notice since they seem to happen many days after dosing it.

People withdrawing from shorter acting opioids should be given single high doses to see if there is a (my username here ;-p) between maintenance and cold turkey.

Edit; sorry that turned into a long off topic rant. took ethylone and methadone earlier..... I'm gonna leave it in case I accidentally said something relevant. Please delete if you disagree
 
Yeah it's crazy long, I couldn't sleep more than an hour a night for about 1 1/2 months. That aside it wasn't s bad a s dope withdrawal IMO. But I think that with a low tolerance suboxone feels pretty much exactly like methadone really, just a bit more energizing. Methadone is super fucking sedating, and it's like suboxone in terms of maintenance that youll only get high off it a few times and then it's just saturating your opiate receptors, making it impossible to get high, even on more methadone itself. When I was younger I didnt understand that methadone worked as a blocker by basically building up a tolerance to the point tht your opiate receptors re too saturated, so I tried in vein to get over on methadone. I'd shoot bundles of dope...nothing. I'd double my dose....nothing....I'd tripppe my dose and take 2 Xanax... Nothing but a trip to the ER. See unfortunately unlike buprenorphine, methadone has no cap on rsperitory depression, so even though doubling and tripping your dose won't get you high (if your maintaining at or above 60mg), it won't stop you from overdosing and passing out every time you sit down. At least with suboxone, it is definately possible to shoot through even high dosages of buprenorphine if you've got good heroin.

Oh and for those that say suboxone doesn't deliver a typical opioid high, well I'm not sure if agre with that honestly
When I first got on suboxone four mg felt Ike sniffing three bags of heroin to the dot. Buprenorphine is a partial agonist, sure, but it's a powerful one, and it's peak opioid activity is about equivalent to 30mg of methadone.

I feel as though a lot of people equate methadone to full agonist to being high all the time. Sure for detox, and when your in a pinch I'd rather have methadone. I think it works better, and for me it lasts longer, but for maintenance, it's shit IMO. I've made several posts similar to this one, and what I really keep repeating is tht it is unlikely tht methadone will work much better for those who are dissatisfied from suboxone, in fact it will probably really dissapoint you in the long term
 
good to know i haven't taken any opiates in atleast 24 hours and seeing on how i bought 4 and from what yall r saying im going to take 8 mg right now. and look into the snorting effect. I've taken the sublingual sub tablets and found that high very pleasnt . now to see if these are any better :)
 
don't take 8mg man! Start off with like,2mg max, that way for one, the suboxone won't block other opiates as long or at all, and two you won't raise your tolerance to suboxone to unreasonable levels which will definately block other opiates for at least 36 hours, and will give you no more euphoria than fur mg most likely would
 
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