New RCs in the UK : Version 2 any vendor talk and this is getting closed

[zamzams]

I have a theory about this actually. I don't think the samples that many of us tried were actually 6-APB. What they were I do not know, but I don't think there's any such thing as "legit" 6-APB. It's either 6-APB or it isn't. I've tried so-called 6-APB being sold as a powder, and it was nothing like the sample I tried of "official" 6-APB.

Now either:

A) It wasn't 6-APB and the official powder was.

B) It was 6-APB and just isn't very good.

In the case of B this means the stuff sent out as samples was not 6-APB but something else, my money is on a cocktail of chemicals.

The whole thing smacks of a hit-and-run scam. Send out great samples to get people interested, keep delaying the release date to get them champing at the bit, then give a final release date and start taking pre-orders. Then you can send out any old shit you want, as you'll only need a week of sales to make enough to retire to the Bahamas anyway.

My guess is this "6-APB" craze will be extremely short lived and the official 5 vendors will soon fuck off into the sunset never to be seen again.

it seems there has been many problems with the production of this stuff for many reasons and that the vendors are having a very hard time aquiring the quantities they need to meet customers expectations. given time this may get better or like you say they may have no option other than to give up, hopefully not though.

 

[Mental Kenny]

I ordered some from the vendor who claims to be the only legitimate one, paid for it but now he sent me an email saying that since this is an international order he needs me to send him some proof of ID for an anti-fraud verification, like a scan of my driver's license.

Annoying they were supposed to be shipped on monday and be here by friday but I guess all has been delayed on more week, I'm not bothered anyway I've got some good pv to keep entertained until friday and today I already got my nice envelope with a g of 4-FA.

 

[Ghostface]

^ Sending proof of verification to an rc vendor is dodgy as it gets imo. Digital copies of proof of identity can be used for scams.

Do update, I think I might be in the same boat when I order as I am not UK based anymore.

 

[Mental Kenny]

^ Sending proof of verification to an rc vendor is dodgy as it gets imo. Digital copies of proof of identity can be used for scams.

Do update, I think I might be in the same boat when I order as I am not UK based anymore.

I usually buy RCs from a variety of different vendors located in various parts of the world and never had to supply proof of ID, I think I'm gonna ask for a refund I don't know whether it's a good idea to give my details around like that.

 

[koneko]

It's never a good idea to give your proof of ID to vendors - and may I please remind you all to check this thread title again as it's not about discussing vendors, deliveries or the like. Discuss the new RC's themselves please.

ta.

 

[Mental Kenny]

It's never a good idea to give your proof of ID to vendors - and may I please remind you all to check this thread title again as it's not about discussing vendors, deliveries or the like. Discuss the new RC's themselves please.

ta.

Sorry about the vendor talk, if I could talk about the effects of 6-APB I would, but unfortunately we all have to deal with dishonest vendors before we finally manage to get our hands on some of the product.

So what you suggest I do? Send him a scan of my driver's license, as at the end of the day he knows all my data already like name and address, there's nothing more on my license.

 

[The Kid]

Kate, this shouldn't break vendor-talk rules....Mr Kenny, do not send I'd verification! You are being scammed.

ID verification is either for proof of age, or for anti-money laundering reasons. None of which should apply here.

 

[koneko]

^
Edit: Thanks Kid, good advice.

My UK driving license and passport has specific identification numbers and photos on them. Too much valuable information to give away in my book.

6-APB is not the only new RC to talk about

 

[muel65]

Now that 6-APB has been released what other RC's are people looking forward to?

I'm waiting for some samples of 5-iai to come through from a respectable USA/China lab so should be good.

 

[The Kid]

I'm looking forward to some decent RC's being sold in Guernsey. I'm too scared to order anything after finding out vendors were just getting rid of old meph in their new "wonder drugs". It means fuck all difference to customs over here...it means conviction and loss of job to me!

 

[Ghostface]

^ Is there still a headshop there?

 

[Mental Kenny]

Kate, this shouldn't break vendor-talk rules....Mr Kenny, do not send I'd verification! You are being scammed.

ID verification is either for proof of age, or for anti-money laundering reasons. None of which should apply here.

Thanks for the advice, I won't be sending any proof of ID then, I'll try to get a refund but at this point I guess I lost 40 quid.

 

[The Kid]

^ Is there still a headshop there?

Not as such, however there are a couple of places that used to flog the old bath crystals. Plus there was a 24hr delivery service.

 

[The Kid]

Thanks for the advice, I won't be sending any proof of ID then, I'll try to get a refund but at this point I guess I lost 40 quid.

You could ask why they want it again. Or point out that Amazon seem to get by without requesting I D verification.

 

[Ghostface]

So anyone from eadd tried the 6-APB pellets yet?

 

[muttonchops]

haha, Nope. Got some arriving today though. BUT. I told my missus that i have ordered the "new thing" and she has expressed much anger and concern about it so I don't even think i will be consuming it.....at least until she is sure people aren't dropping like flies....so looks like i might not be the EADD pioneer after all. She told me to go and buy some real drugs like base or MDMA...haw haw.....so i did....God bless my missus :D

 

[invert]

So anyone from eadd tried the 6-APB pellets yet?

I'm not from EADD, but you PMed me to ask me to report my experience here (I assume you meant this thread?), so I'll lazily repost three posts I made in the PD thread on 6-APB:

I can say that a 370 mg pellet [NB: this is the mass of the pellet, not the active ingredient - the mass of the active ingredient is supposedly 100 mg, but unknown and maybe variable across different pellets (as the overall mass is variable, 370 being near the top of the range)] split over two doses separated by two hours, and crushed in liquid, got me moderately fucked. Way over threshold, certainly nice, would happily have a bit more, but I'm not tempted to double drop next time (it wasn't *that* far off good enough this time, and the negative effects - jaw tension etc - are bad enough I don't want them doubled quite yet), I'll just have a full (crushed) pellet next time.

Re: tolerance; I've intermittently over-used mephedrone and methylone over the past year or so, but hadn't had any for about 10 days prior to dosing the 6-APB.

So, with half a pellet at t+0.00 and another half at t+2.00, (each time powdered and placed in a liquid) initial alerts were noted at t+1.00, more strongly at t+2.00, and peaked from t+3.00 to t+5.00. At t+6.00 effects were waning. When I say effects, I mean the pleasurable moderate MDMA-like feeling and the mild visual brightening and distortion; pupil dilation and stimulation noted from t+1.00 onwards (and at least until t+6.00), and jaw clenching from t+2.30 onwards and if anything the jaw clenching seemed to increase, even as other effects decreased; at any rate, it stuck round awhile. Eventually slept at around t+8.00.

It was nice (aside from the prolonged jaw tension after the peak: worse (not debilitating, btw; just annoying) than I recall ever getting from M1 or meph, perhaps similarly bad to butylone, but qualitatively different - none of that tardive dyskinesia style tongue-chewing gurning.). I'll try a whole (powdered) pellet next time, rather than staggering the dose.

I guess those who are asking if anyone who's been on Bluelight longer than 6-APB has been being promoted has reported an experience on the pellets must have missed my posts; or perhaps I don't count because I've only made a few hundred posts? *shrugs* Anyway, I found 1 (split over two hours) pulverized pellet (total pellet mass: 370 mg) gave a nice, pleasurable, decent peak much more like MDMA than, say, methylone and mephedrone; with a pleasurable loveyness that rivals my first experience of MDMA over a decade ago.

The peak was not much like mephedrone (i.e. it lacked, for me, the compulsive euphoric dopaminesque high of mephedrone), was a bit like the peak of methylone (when serotonin receptors are not currently fried or overused), and a lot like the peak of MDMA (again, with brain in good state); i.e. it was a mixture of sensory pleasure and feeling like falling in love. A degree of generic psychedelic visual distortion overlaid the peak.

Obviously, this is just a first impression; I'll have a few more experiences with 6-APB over the next few months, and will see if my impressions hold up.

It was slightly short of desired, for me; I suspect 1 pellet (unsplit) might be enough, conceivably 1.5 pellets; but I have a feeling 2 pellets might be more than I'd want. I'll see; I'll gradually increase over a few sessions.

I didn't like the amount of jaw tension that remained following the peak, or the difficulty urinating, or the dry mouth; apart from that, it was all good.

 

[Ghostface]

^ Thnx.

Now all we need is muttonchops to try his

 

[Bella Figura]

for the record the pellets have been weighing in between 250-400mg so expect them to be variable in dose/effect.

 

[Ghostface]

for the record the pellets have been weighing in between 250-400mg so expect them to be variable in dose/effect.

That is something else that does not make sense to me. The pellets are made using a press which should result in uniform distribution and not have such a range of variance.