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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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rubbish

you may have seen an nmr that showed it was 90% SIMILAR to 4mec but its not and that too has been proven the hard way.



well we`ll soon find out (again) the hard way

Good afternoon ,

Firstly let me apologize for the late reply , As you may already know our office was raided by Staffordshire police on the 28th December as a result of this we have had to suspend trading whilst the chemical commonly know as B2 is tested , At the moment I am being charged with possession of a class B controlled substance. We have sold this chemical openly on the Internet for the last 6 months under the impression it was legal.

As a result of this our business account has also been suspended by our bank whilst Staffordshire police continue with there investigation, However we have contacted a company who have agreed to complete all our outstanding orders to customers who have already paid.

xxxxxx will not be reopening and we have also suspended plans to open our European website.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your custom and wish you a very happy new year.

Kind regards

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Giving ethylphenidate a go tonight. After an initial 20mg dose orally, after 40mins had a further 50mg orally, and another repeat dose of 50mg an hour later after not much in the way of effect from the second dose. so far, not much euphoria, feel slightly more awake than I had done, pulse is probably up 10 or so from mid 70s to mid 80s, BP was 165/100 so elevated but not hugely but it's been a while since I've checked my BP when sober.

so far I'd say I prefer MPA slightly. this feels a bit like a load of caffeine really.
 
So are there any good RCs about for just sitting in on those quiet evenings that don't carry a massive price tag? MXE comes to mind, for it's price/quantity, but it's fairly shite if you ask me. Not really interested in the other cannaboids too, what about all this Etziolam, etc, compared to valium? Any other similar ones that don't carry a massive price tag?
 
There are no much dissociation until dosages above 20 mg. I started with 10 and felt very slight mood lift and. After that, did 23 mg and felt slight dissociation. 55mg - strong dissociation, but no m-hole.
So, I'd say if you want opiate warmness, start with 10-15, if you want dissiciation, start with 25-35, if you want hole, better do this after you try small dosages.
But overall, MXE is forgiving substance. I also guess that quality of my MXE was not superb.

Yeah I wont be going over the 25-30mg mark with this stuff anyway by the sounds of things.

Is this a drug that could induce any giggles or fits of laughter when taken with a group of mates or is it a bit of a 'darker' substance?
 
So are there any good RCs about for just sitting in on those quiet evenings that don't carry a massive price tag? MXE comes to mind, for it's price/quantity, but it's fairly shite if you ask me. Not really interested in the other cannaboids too, what about all this Etziolam, etc, compared to valium? Any other similar ones that don't carry a massive price tag?

Well etizolam only seems to block certain emotions rather than create any sort of 'high'...It won't make your evenings any less boring. MXE's alright but it does get boring after a while, and all the rest are just stimulants that will turn your quiet evening of relaxation into a rabid all-nighter.

Tbh the stand-out drug for this would be O-Desmethyltramadol, but availability has completely dried up until March at the very earliest.
 
Have some mxe ordered which should be here on fri

Recommend a dose to a dissociative newbie?! I've tried lsd before but have no idea what to expect with this mxe stuff

Start with 5mg as an allergy test dose. Common dose appears to be about 30mg-40mg, give or take 20mg either way, so start small. Work up from 15 to 20, 25 etc, see how it feels. Be warned this takes up to an hour to notice affects so resist the urge to redose before this time frame. It also lasts from 4-6 hours give or take again, so don't use before wanting to go to sleep.
 
Well etizolam only seems to block certain emotions rather than create any sort of 'high'...It won't make your evenings any less boring. MXE's alright but it does get boring after a while, and all the rest are just stimulants that will turn your quiet evening of relaxation into a rabid all-nighter.

Tbh the stand-out drug for this would be O-Desmethyltramadol, but availability has completely dried up until March at the very earliest.

Thanks, looks like I'll just stick to weed for now. Cheers for keeping me up to date, there seems to be faaaaaar too many RCs these days, 90% aren't even worth trying.
 
Yeah I wont be going over the 25-30mg mark with this stuff anyway by the sounds of things.

Is this a drug that could induce any giggles or fits of laughter when taken with a group of mates or is it a bit of a 'darker' substance?

If you're in good company with a lighthearted vibe then it's definitely conducive to that kind of situation. Don't know about giggles and fits of laughter, but it can work pretty well in company at lower doses. I wouldn't call it 'dark' as such. I find it much less 'dark' than ketamine, though many others may disagree. I'm not a ketamine lover at all.

I'd say ultimately it's best on your own though, if only so you can absorb yourself in the experience. I developed a habit of listening to the same album again and again and having an epiphany each time. Beautiful.
 
Ethylphenidate has absolutely blown me away recently. I feel as though the more times I take it, the better it gets. When I first started it left me feeling all muddled and anxious.
500mg of my first buy lasted me 7 days.
I've just finished a gram of the stuff in 3 days (The tolerance build-up is absolutely insane), and have had an absolute ball of a time. I've had none of the anxiety, felt comfortable, I've been productive while actually having a great time too.
Even the nose burn seems to disappear after 2 doses.

Honestly, to me Ethylphenidate is like a better MDPV. It doesn't cause you to fiend for 5 days straight, it doesn't cause you to become a hypochondriac, it doesn't make food taste like sand, and currently gives me no absolutely no anxiety.
Socializing on Ethyl is a piece of cake, whereas with MDPV I always felt paranoid.
I find that it also wears off subtly. I feel rather awesome after the come down has finished.
I recently got some etizolam though, which makes the come down process even better!
The weirdest thing I find about Ethylphenidate is that after several doses, background noise tends to start soundling like people murmuring.
extremely subtle, and common with sleep deprivation - the thing is Ethyl hasn't caused me any sleep deprivation yet.

On the subject of Etizolam; somebody in another thread suggested that the UK dark blue pills may be phenazepam or have traces of it inside, and I honestly find this more than likely.
The Etizolam I have gotten off UK vendors causes severe blackouts, terrible coordination, makes staying awake almost impossible and even leaves you feeling woozy 24 hours later.
I've had plenty of Etizolam in the past. While the UK vendor's "Etizolam" can be pretty awesome in small doses, it feels just like Phenazepam to me. It's not a gentle drug at all, which Etizolam is.
I'd say 1 UK pill is more sedating than 10 Intas Etizolam.

Is it not coincidental that not long after Phenazepam was banned in the UK, vendors suddenly started selling a new type of "Etizolam". They probably had buckets fill of Phenazepam, and many people wouldn't tell the difference.
It'd make perfect business sense...
This theory would also explain why the effects of the dark blue pills vary so much, as reported by countless people. Phenazepam is active in very small doses, and these dark blue pills are definitely not manufactured professional, so it's unlikely that all the pills have the same amount.

Just a silly theory, but it should be considered.

I don't even mind if that scenario is true; I loved phenazepam when I could buy the tinctures. It's the most powerful anxiolytic drug I've ever taken.

Anyways, I find that the only drugs I need now are Etizolam for anxiety & sleep, Ethylphenidate for working & studying and a certain not-so-legal green plant for just chilling & having fun.
 
Ethylphenidate has absolutely blown me away recently. I feel as though the more times I take it, the better it gets. When I first started it left me feeling all muddled and anxious.
500mg of my first buy lasted me 7 days.
I've just finished a gram of the stuff in 3 days (The tolerance build-up is absolutely insane), and have had an absolute ball of a time. I've had none of the anxiety, felt comfortable, I've been productive while actually having a great time too.
Even the nose burn seems to disappear after 2 doses.

Honestly, to me Ethylphenidate is like a better MDPV. It doesn't cause you to fiend for 5 days straight, it doesn't cause you to become a hypochondriac, it doesn't make food taste like sand, and currently gives me no absolutely no anxiety.
Socializing on Ethyl is a piece of cake, whereas with MDPV I always felt paranoid.
I find that it also wears off subtly. I feel rather awesome after the come down has finished.
I recently got some etizolam though, which makes the come down process even better!
The weirdest thing I find about Ethylphenidate is that after several doses, background noise tends to start soundling like people murmuring.
extremely subtle, and common with sleep deprivation - the thing is Ethyl hasn't caused me any sleep deprivation yet.

On the subject of Etizolam; somebody in another thread suggested that the UK dark blue pills may be phenazepam or have traces of it inside, and I honestly find this more than likely.
The Etizolam I have gotten off UK vendors causes severe blackouts, terrible coordination, makes staying awake almost impossible and even leaves you feeling woozy 24 hours later.
I've had plenty of Etizolam in the past. While the UK vendor's "Etizolam" can be pretty awesome in small doses, it feels just like Phenazepam to me. It's not a gentle drug at all, which Etizolam is.
I'd say 1 UK pill is more sedating than 10 Intas Etizolam.

Is it not coincidental that not long after Phenazepam was banned in the UK, vendors suddenly started selling a new type of "Etizolam". They probably had buckets fill of Phenazepam, and many people wouldn't tell the difference.
It'd make perfect business sense...
This theory would also explain why the effects of the dark blue pills vary so much, as reported by countless people. Phenazepam is active in very small doses, and these dark blue pills are definitely not manufactured professional, so it's unlikely that all the pills have the same amount.

Just a silly theory, but it should be considered.

I don't even mind if that scenario is true; I loved phenazepam when I could buy the tinctures. It's the most powerful anxiolytic drug I've ever taken.

Anyways, I find that the only drugs I need now are Etizolam for anxiety & sleep, Ethylphenidate for working & studying and a certain not-so-legal green plant for just chilling & having fun.

The more I hear about ethylphenidate the better it sounds, I'll have to grab some when I get back to the UK while it is available. Regarding etizolam, you'd be better buying from one of the Canadian operators that ships direct from India, it is cheaper than from the UK sites (although still much more expensive than it is here in India, I pay the equivalent of 10p a tab! :) ) and comes in blister packs so you can see what you are getting. The stuff I buy from my local pharmacy is actually Sun Pharma Etirest, rather than Etilaam. It should never leave you groggy in the morning as it has a relatively short half life.
 
On the subject of Etizolam; somebody in another thread suggested that the UK dark blue pills may be phenazepam or have traces of it inside, and I honestly find this more than likely. The Etizolam I have gotten off UK vendors causes severe blackouts, terrible coordination, makes staying awake almost impossible and even leaves you feeling woozy 24 hours later.

This is interesting; are these the 'pellets' which RC sites were selling? I always get blistered Etiz and although I wouldn't say that I always feel 100% first thing the morning after a few the short half life is quite recognisable.
 
I've only used the blue etizolam "pellets" a couple of times as getting to sleep aids, and almost bang on 8 hours later I'd wake up feeling fine and raring to go, saying that the ones I got were a reasonable time ahead of phenazepam being banned for import so things could have changed since then.

anyway I've decide ethylphenidate isn't for me. basically all it felt like was a caffeine OD to me, which I can easily do via coffee if I really wanted.
 
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Anyone tried 3-fa? Heard it's supposed to be quite good and wanted to hear more about it. Does it carry that dirty feeling than mephedrone was or is it much cleaner?
 
If you're in good company with a lighthearted vibe then it's definitely conducive to that kind of situation. Don't know about giggles and fits of laughter, but it can work pretty well in company at lower doses. I wouldn't call it 'dark' as such. I find it much less 'dark' than ketamine, though many others may disagree. I'm not a ketamine lover at all.

I'd say ultimately it's best on your own though, if only so you can absorb yourself in the experience. I developed a habit of listening to the same album again and again and having an epiphany each time. Beautiful.

Agreed!
 
Tried Ethylphenidate for the first time last night. Only a 50mg line as I had to be up at 6am. The burn isn't half as bad as I'd expected it to be. Only lasts for about 3 seconds, then quickly fades. There's quite a nice mild rush at the start, similar to cocaine, but it's over far too quickly. Additional euphoria after the rush is subtle but noticeable. Again though it's over far too quickly. 30-40 mins tops followed by a clear headed stim effect for about 2 hours. I could see myself doing lines every 40 mins to keep the euphoria going and ending up feeling pretty wired. Not bad, not great. Just nice really.
 
6apb, what's it like, duration? Effects? I would search but I'm on my phone and it keeps giving me errors saying I need to be logged in first..
 
you do have to be logged in to search!

i was disappointed by 6apb. My boyf and I took 125mg, very wary of going higher due to some horror stories on here. i'm pretty sure my source was legit. we ended up, 4 hours in, after some slight euphoria and things looking a bit brighter, fucking it off and taking some mdma. i would try again on a higher initial dose, but advise you to start out cautious as yours may be way stronger than mine. we didn't notice the really lasting stimulation or such elevated heart rates as some have reported.
 
I am logged in though! Don't know why it keeps giving me errors. I've a pellet of the stuff, no idea of the weight? Came free with something else I ordered.
 
you do have to be logged in to search!

i was disappointed by 6apb. My boyf and I took 125mg, very wary of going higher due to some horror stories on here. i'm pretty sure my source was legit. we ended up, 4 hours in, after some slight euphoria and things looking a bit brighter, fucking it off and taking some mdma.

This. Except it took me 250mg to get to that place and then I took some MXE because that's a drug that works.
 
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