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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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Vader said:
It's not complex at all. You just take a known quantity of material, dissolve it in a known quantity of liquid, and bob's your uncle, the job is done. I'm sure that those blotters are a very expensive way of buying the drug.
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Aye, it works out a LOT more expensive than hcl, and even moreso as a freebase...
I suppose its not too hard sounding when you say it like that aha, I'd just need me some good mg scales...
I should really have some anyway...
 
There's at least one vendor (not uk) offering dichloropane (only sample amounts are purchasable atm until the guy gets some feedback from the customers). Any BLers tried or know anything about it?

I personally really hope that camfetamine turns out to be everything that MPA should've been. I guess we'll just have to wait & see if it meets our expectations.
 
Vader said:
I haven't tried 'em, but I would go with 25C purely on the basis that it's (slightly) more well explored. My recommendation is to use liquid dosing and tread with caution, these are veeery potent drugs.
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i thought they were illegal in UK, guess not?
 
There's a thread about it in ADD, it comes down to whether or not the the N substituent (the methylmethoxybenzene bit) can be considered an alkyl group. I don't think it can be (not that I know what I'm talking about), but it's a grey area.
 
25C-NBOMe & 25D-NBOMe
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Vader said:
There's a thread about it in ADD, it comes down to whether or not the the N substituent (the methylmethoxybenzene bit) can be considered an alkyl group. I don't think it can be (not that I know what I'm talking about), but it's a grey area.
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Just to be clear... no-one is certain what the legal status of NBOMe derivatives are in the uk? Is that right? I REALLY want to try these & it's be a major relief to know the legal situation before considering a test-run.

A well known UK vendor had plans to release a Mescaline NBOMe but it kinda fizzled out... I wondered if perhaps the vendor discovered he might infringe the law in the sale of this chemical.

Any firm opinion on the law or someone who can direct us to accurate info about the legality of these materials in Europe & the UK would be highly appreciated.
 
My opinion is that it is currently legal.
I am not a legal expert
Also if it is wrongly used some bigstyle nastiness might occur.
I think that could happen as the dosages are very low thus overdosing isn't going to be massively difficult if people start taking it when impaired.
 
chasing_s said:
as long as you are aware it's kinds 12+ hours it's not that bad. of course if you aren't expecting it it's a bit of a shock. it's not as if it's DOx/*FLY long though.
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What do you feel like after, is it like a slow comedown?
 
xtcnation said:
What do you feel like after, is it like a slow comedown?
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Yes it has a fairly slow tail off, 60mg had me tripping for 15 hours straight =D

Also, don't plan on doing much the next day as the body load + (huge) lack of appetite when tripping really takes its toll.
 
Something you need to put a couple of days aside for then, do you feel pretty shitty on the comedown or is it bearable?
 
IMO the come down is fine, sleeping is very difficult and you won't get much of it either. There is also no hangover/crash the next day, just fatigue.

EDIT: also, the first dose I started off with was 35mg (freebase), and would thoroughly recommend that to anyone else.
 
What's the general opinion on MPA then? and how long are the effects?
 
I did a gram over a couple of days and found it shit, no sleep at all very little, genuine high.

If you want a subtle stim than its probably OK but you'd be better off with some good old sulphate

All that said, and I'm not advising you do it mixing it with MXE dam nearly blew the doors off, fuck knows why:)
 
I'm eager for a functional, simple CNS stimulant & hoped mpa would fit the bill. I have not bought any since I recieved my free sample so... read what you will into that...

Camfetamine MAY satisfy my interest, time will tell.
 
write to the home office for a guidance note. I can't be arsed.
there is one major issue which is the contaminating presence of the non benzylated amine precursor which is class A controlled. there is sufficient to detect and the law could choose to deal with the rest of the material as carrier for a class A controlled drug.

for example all samples of methoxybenzyl 2C-I and 2-CD contain significant amounts of 2C-I
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Si Ingwe said:
Just to be clear... no-one is certain what the legal status of NBOMe derivatives are in the uk? Is that right? I REALLY want to try these & it's be a major relief to know the legal situation before considering a test-run.

A well known UK vendor had plans to release a Mescaline NBOMe but it kinda fizzled out... I wondered if perhaps the vendor discovered he might infringe the law in the sale of this chemical.

Any firm opinion on the law or someone who can direct us to accurate info about the legality of these materials in Europe & the UK would be highly appreciated.
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blim said:
Here's a link to the actual research paper again:

http://eprints.lincoln.ac.uk/3956/2/Analysis_of__Legal_Highs_-_Accepted_Version.pdf
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Very interesting reading!

Five out of seven samples were a mixture of the controlled
substances BZP and 3-TFMPP combined with caffeine

one just caffine and only one genuine product!

All this piparazine about funny isn't it that illegal pills get polluted with it and so do the legal highs. Has to make me wonder how big the gap is between the illegal market and the so called legal one :-0 And if it's any safer to use the so called legal one?
 
MPA and MXE seem to have fairly taken off in my town. Had a bit of a sesh on both after a pub crawl a week ago, was awake all night on MPA then did a line of mexy and temporarily forgot who i was! That said i still had a good night, fell asleep and was still confused when i awoke apparently, lol
 
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