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New RCs in the UK Ver.3 - Get your disappointment in here

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There seems to be so many conflicting comments about AMT - at low doses is it more of a stimulant than a true psyc, does the trippy, CEV / OEV only start at a higher dose?

Its on my to do list :)
 
k.kat said:
an alternative to pills as pills got so shit,
like i took meph as an alternative to pills
ive had JGG quite a few times & they havent got that same more-ish thing
there is something different about them, i snorted & bombed meph & snorting jgg is totally different from making a drink with them, snorting them is a waste
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JohnnyVodka said:
Are the JGG's definitely *not* the likes of mdpv/naphyrone then and more like meph/m1? If more like the latter category, I could almost be tempted to try (for want of much else decent being around); if the latter, I'd definitely avoid.
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ok the only way I am going to get this through to people is to in essence fully post the paper to which I've been referring in these posts about JGG, luckily someone else on another board has done the formatting and stuff so here it is
hmm tables don't work here oh well I'll have to stick an image in instead.

Buying 'legal' recreational drugs does not mean that you are not breaking the law

Quarterly Journal of Medicine (QJM), Available online 30th July 2010

J. Ramsey (1), P.I. Dargan (2), M. Smyllie (3), S. Davies (3), J. Button (3), D.W. Holt (3) and D.M. Wood (2)

(1) TICTAC Communications Ltd, St George's, University of London, UK
(2) Clinical Toxicology Service, Guy's and St. Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust and King's Health Partners, UK
(3) Forensic Toxicology Service, Analytical Unit, St George's, University of London, UK

Background: Recreational drug use in the UK is common; sources of recreational drugs are changing, with increasing purchase of legal highs from the Internet. Previous studies have shown that there is not consistency of active ingredient(s) in legal highs purchased from the Internet.

Aim: The aim of this study was to determine the impact of the 16 April 2010 change to the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) on the content of ‘legal highs’ purchased over the Internet and supplied within the UK.

Methods: Legal highs were purchased from a number of different Internet suppliers and the active ingredients determined by analysis undertaken within a Home Office approved and licensed laboratory set in a UK academic institution. The active ingredient(s) detected on screening were then compared to the UK legislation in force at the time of purchase to determine whether each individual ‘legal’ high was in fact legal or not.

Results: All 18 products purchased prior to the change in the UK legislation contained active ingredients that were legal under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) in force at that time. Six products were purchased and analysed after the changes to the UK Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) on the 16 April 2010. Five of the products contained information, either on the Internet site or the packaging, stating that the product contained legal substances; the final product did not specify the active ingredient and so purchasers would be unable to determine if this was truly a legal product. Five of the six products contained an active ingredient that is a Class B drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971); the other product contained an unlicensed medicine not controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971).

Conclusions: We have shown in this study that some drugs sold as ‘legal’ highs contain drugs that are controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971). Under current UK legislation, individuals purchasing legal highs that contained controlled drugs would be subject to the same penalties as if they had knowingly purchased a controlled drug. Dissemination of information on the harm associated with the use of legal highs should also inform individuals that they may be purchasing controlled substances and the potential legal consequences of this.

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Mental Kenny said:
The mephedrone crowd are just after a euphoric stimulant with no brain activity, most morons who only like E can't understand the complexities of psychedelic drugs, I gave away some 2C-E to some meph fans and they just couldn't appreciate its effects.

I have to admit I quite despise them, don't get me wrong I always loved MDMA on its own and enhanced by acid and ket, but unfortunately a lot of people just don't like having their mind challenged.
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Mental Kenny said:
Sorry but most people I've met who don't like psychedelics have been total morons, the types who don't completely understand drugs, I honestly think that those who don't enjoy psychedelics are of lesser intelligence and are worth less as humans.

In a way as the Aztecs believed that the spiritual class who understood the full complexities of hallucinogenic drugs had right to have complete rule over the cattle class, the ignorant low class peasants who should just work and keep their mouth shut.
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Fucking hell mate, why don't you tell everyone what you really think eh. :D
 
yeah those stomach cramps are great fun aren't they? can't think why someone wouldn't appreciate that.
 
chasing_s said:
ok the only way I am going to get this through to people is to in essence fully post the paper to which I've been referring in these posts about JGG, luckily someone else on another board has done the formatting and stuff so here it is
hmm tables don't work here oh well I'll have to stick an image in instead.

Buying 'legal' recreational drugs does not mean that you are not breaking the law

Quarterly Journal of Medicine (QJM), Available online 30th July 2010

J. Ramsey (1), P.I. Dargan (2), M. Smyllie (3), S. Davies (3), J. Button (3), D.W. Holt (3) and D.M. Wood (2)

(1) TICTAC Communications Ltd, St George's, University of London, UK
(2) Clinical Toxicology Service, Guy's and St. Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust and King's Health Partners, UK
(3) Forensic Toxicology Service, Analytical Unit, St George's, University of London, UK

Background: Recreational drug use in the UK is common; sources of recreational drugs are changing, with increasing purchase of legal highs from the Internet. Previous studies have shown that there is not consistency of active ingredient(s) in legal highs purchased from the Internet.

Aim: The aim of this study was to determine the impact of the 16 April 2010 change to the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) on the content of ‘legal highs’ purchased over the Internet and supplied within the UK.

Methods: Legal highs were purchased from a number of different Internet suppliers and the active ingredients determined by analysis undertaken within a Home Office approved and licensed laboratory set in a UK academic institution. The active ingredient(s) detected on screening were then compared to the UK legislation in force at the time of purchase to determine whether each individual ‘legal’ high was in fact legal or not.

Results: All 18 products purchased prior to the change in the UK legislation contained active ingredients that were legal under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) in force at that time. Six products were purchased and analysed after the changes to the UK Misuse of Drugs Act (1971) on the 16 April 2010. Five of the products contained information, either on the Internet site or the packaging, stating that the product contained legal substances; the final product did not specify the active ingredient and so purchasers would be unable to determine if this was truly a legal product. Five of the six products contained an active ingredient that is a Class B drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971); the other product contained an unlicensed medicine not controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971).

Conclusions: We have shown in this study that some drugs sold as ‘legal’ highs contain drugs that are controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act (1971). Under current UK legislation, individuals purchasing legal highs that contained controlled drugs would be subject to the same penalties as if they had knowingly purchased a controlled drug. Dissemination of information on the harm associated with the use of legal highs should also inform individuals that they may be purchasing controlled substances and the potential legal consequences of this.

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thats very good, but im sure there would be a little more to it than that, for instance being in possession of it and being able to prove that you actually took delivery of it etc
 
I'm not really sure of your point. I was just making fully clear where my JGG is mephedrone statements have been coming from.
 
It's been awhile since I last checked the current affairs with the RC scene, but I'm oh so desperate for a clean stimulant, something like MDPV/Amphetamine. is there anything out which could check those boxes?
 
The home office wouldn't care much for an MDPV substitute, it never even made the headlines (except for the few idiots it killed AFTER it became illegal) ;)

I just need a stimulant again! God I miss MDPV...
 
Hmm. I know mephedrone is illegal, but I honestly wouldn't complain if I accidentally bought some. :o

But it sounds like JGG are something they could change the formula for anyway?
 
That's great news. JGG are still easily available. Never bought any but I probably will now :)
 
phillyx said:
That's great news. JGG are still easily available. Never bought any but I probably will now :)
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Are you sure they are consistently mephedrone, I mean maybe the vendors had
a stash of mephedrone they had to get rid of and made those granules, maybe now they put something else in there.

That's why I would never do branded products there's no change in hell you know what you're taking, same with that Ivory Wave stuff, at first it had pv in it, now something else.
 
Surely they dont still contain mephedrone. And if they do, I dont fancy ordering it to my house
 
Myself and others have been saying for a while that JGG are Mephedrone but have just been laughed at. They come in small green balls and can be crushed and snorted.

I had some on Friday night.
 
Xamkou said:
Myself and others have been saying for a while that JGG are Mephedrone but have just been laughed at. They come in small green balls and can be crushed and snorted.

I had some on Friday night.
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brave vendors
 
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