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New RCs in the UK Ver.3 - Get your disappointment in here

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muzzard said:
still nothing as far as samples go with pro meph. was expecting it by now.
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Same on this end. Been Googling for an experience report, or at least a letter drop but fuck all anywhere from anyone yet.

I am starting to think the two or three vendors is one person/small group, and are raking it in on bank transfer "pre-orders" whilst everyone is posting their sample is "in the post; any day now!"
 
Just received an update on the pro-meph situation:

"Hi...

Sorry to tell you that there will be a delay in sending out the samples.

Before sending out the samples we sent some to the lab for analysis and it was discovered that the Pro-Meph contained some traces of mephedrone.
Not much, just between 2 and 3%, but we want to make sure that the product is 100% free of mephedrone.
So now we are working very hard on that one and the first sample is expected to be sent to the lab on monday.
As soon as we get the conformation from the lab that there is no mephedrone present in the product, and we mean 0%!, we will send out the samples immediatly.

Please don't worry about your position on the list because you are still on top of that, the ranking will be the same.

Hope we informed you enough for now and you will feel sympathy for the situation.

Yours Sincerely,"
 
Does anybody with any chemistry knowledge know what the pro-drug could possibly be? It sounds a bit too good to be true (for the people who like meph) that moisture could just be added to complete the chemical reaction to form meph. Imagine if it didn't work fully, and you ingested a load of precursors. It must be a drug that changes into meph, once inside the body - a bit like GBL turns into GHB. In that case, there could be even more toxicology issues, due to having to metabolise the pro-drug, as well. The pro-drug might be even worse for you than the meph!
 
I can confirm that the pro-drug is entirely plausible, bt some mephedrone content is pretty much unavoidable.
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From what they've said, this is it.
It would only take a few mls of water to entirely convert, although the conversion might take a few hours if you wanted to do it ex vivo. Otherwise I imagine it would work similarly to vyvanase, a slow release meph.

Edit: This structure matches the one now shown on their site.
 
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this must be nonsense.

I thought it was two ethanol molecules and a meph one?

So it will be like being a bit pissed up and it will be "watered down" meph as there are more ethanol molecules than meph?

Or am I just being a bit thick?
 
^Ethanol is much less potent by weight than meph. Potency is measured by weight, not by number of molecules. A shot of vodka has like 7g of ethanol in it. On top of that, a molecule of ethanol weighs much less than a molecule of meph. So, about two-thirds of what you take of this will end up as meph, the other third as ethanol. So, you will not notice the effects of the ethanol at all. You'd have to smash about 20g to get a single drink's worth of booze. If you take it as is, it'll be about 2/3 as potent as meph, and apparently with a longer, slower course of action. If, however, you do what the vendors are strongly suggesting you do and let it hydrolise, the ethanol will evaporate and you'll just be left with meph.
 
So, would it work snorted? Obviously there's moisture up there, so I'd assume so. Also, I'm sure no one wants damp/pasty meph, so would you just leave it to dry again, and it stays as meph?
 
It wouldn't be the meph that people are used to until it has been damp/humid for a few hours. If allowed to convert first, it would snort as normal, and yes, once hydrolysed then dried it would remain as meph.
 
Vader said:
If you take it as is, it'll be about 2/3 as potent as meph, and apparently with a longer, slower course of action. If, however, you do what the vendors are strongly suggesting you do and let it hydrolise, the ethanol will evaporate and you'll just be left with meph.
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but you'll be left with 2/3 a gram instead of 1 gram of meph and ethanol?

So quite pricey then?

Again, sorry if this very thick question, just tryin to get things straight in me head, lol 8)
 
Not thick questions at all. Yeah, you'll be left with 2/3 of a gram, so it's pricier meph than you could get before the ban (although it was dirt cheap then).
 
1g of this will convert to 70.5% mephedrone and 29.5% ethanol by weight if you want to be accurate, 2/3rd and 1/3rd is a very convenient approximation though.
 
£20-25 seems a lot for 2/3 g of meph, but if it is high quality it is much better value than "coke".

And better value than £15 a g street meph (50% 4-MEC, 50% cut) so £15 for 0.4 of MEC.

So might take off, if it's as good and reliable as it seems it might be, but not for long i don't reckon hahahhas
 
I have to say that the email saying that they are not happy with 2-3% mephedrone content and are scrapping that batch until a pure (if that is even possible) one comes along seems like a load of crap. It's just to get a little more confidence / cover up a lab delay / get more preorders in for a non-existent product.

If I was going to be clever enough to circumvent the British law system to reintroduce a class B drug, I would have at least invested my idea in a company that was already prominent in the UK legal high scene or hired someone that was competent in web design. The site is a joke and obviously just a copy paste job over from Word. The whole thing is riddled with grammatical errors, stupid fonts etc...

Considering that I would have invested money, and have been working on this for some time with a lab I would also not have registered my domain just over 2 weeks ago, (3 weeks if you are refering to their sister .co.uk site).

This is a poor scam imo.
 
If the samples did get sent out last week I was going to offer them a site for a few gram.=D

The more time goes on the less promising this meph is becoming. I fucking hope no one has been stupid enough to "pre-order" any.
 
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