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Got some 6-apb. The succinate salt variety. Not doing anything. At all. Same with a lot of stims lately. My tolerance is completely fucked up. The only two things that do anything to me since meph abuse is mdpv and aMT. I like having a roof above my head and as much as I want to I can't and won't use pv again. I keep telling folk the aMT is weak. I don't know. Maybe it's just me and my fucked brain chemistry stuff or whatever. Crap it is. Expensive and pointless. Anyone else suffer from anything similar?
 
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Got some 6-apb. The succinate salt variety. Not doing anything. At all. Same with a lot of stims lately. My tolerance is completely fucked up. The only two things that do anything to me since meph abuse is mdpv and aMT. I like having a roof above my head and as much as I want to I can't and won't use pv again. I keep telling folk the aMT is weak. I don't know. Maybe it's just me and my fucked brain chemistry stuff or whatever. Crap it is. Expensive and pointless. Anyone else suffer from anything similar?
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what about meph? Does that still work?
 
Not had any since long before the ban MM. I discovered MDPV and got lost in that. Meph was the first thing that stopped working in all honesty.

I worry that even though I'm not getting the right effects I'm still leaving myself at the risk of going overboard and causing myself harm due to stupid doses. Like I say aMT works still but needs a fuck ton. I will find out from Dan if the stuff in the UK is weak or if it is me at the weekend. Very interested to see what he gets off 50/60mg.

Also my meph usage wasn't stupid really and I didn't use everyday. I was nowhere near the usage levels of what some on here were reporting to be getting through while it was legal. Compared to them my usage was average.
 
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^I've noticed this, too. Since abusing Mephedrone I can no longer get high in anything without upping the dose (considerably).. 2cb, LSD, MDMA (doesn't do anything, really.. makes me feel ill), opiates (although I didn't try opiates until after the meph abuse.. I've never got anything from them), cannabis (makes me paranoid), 6-apb, and I can't be arsed to remember anymore..

The only things that seem to work are straight up stimulants (although, saying that, I did like 4-FA.. but i have a suspicion that I'm still not getting the full effects)..
 
Does anybody have experience with a substance called 4-mc or nor-Mephedrone? Iwonder how it compares to similar cathinones. It's mephedrone with the methyl group chopped from the amine, and apparently one of the active metabolites of 4-mmc. I searched here and elsewhere but wasn't able to find reports of bioassays. Seems like it's been offered for a relatively short time, but I suspect it's been around, it's so close to the 'real thing' it must have been explored at some point. Maybe it's been been sold as 4-mmc or was present in batches of closely related cathinones as active contaminant or as byproduct.
 
Nor-t(quite)-Mephedrone =D

There's a thread on it here. Looks like it's never really been commercially synthed before.
 
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For those of you interested in Benzos, I have it on good authority that there will be 3 new Benzodiazepine analogues coming out soon.

According to a vendor:
  1. A legal Valium analgoue
  2. A derivative of Pyrazolam with added hypnotic/sedative properties to coincide with its unparalleled anxilytic properties
  3. An Alpha 5 selective benzodiazepine (so almost identical to alcohol)

It looks like vendors are starting to stray from the stimulant path, which could lead to some interesting results. Etizolam has been the "go to" chemical for far too long now, so it'd be interesting if these analogues turned out to be on par.
 
I hope they don't forget about stims. I love stims when they work. Which isn't often if at all these days. MDPV does work but I can't go there anymore.

There has to be a miracle stim that can be abracadabrad out of a chemists hat. Please tell me there is. What happened to 4-EAR I heard it was coming ages ago from more than a few sources.
 
I'm not happy to hear of new benzo RC's. only spells bad news IMO
when these get banned (and I'm very surprised/annoyed that they banned arylcyclohexamines and cannabinoids yet didn't ban etizolam) I think there will be a considerable fallout of withdrawing daily users.
 
I would think anyone likely to become a daily user (of pretty much any kind of dependency-producing drug) already has ample scope on both grey and black markets to do so, really.
 
I've found pyrazolam to be prettyheavily sedating, once the dose gets up to 3-5mg or so. 6 of the 0.5mg tabs was quite enough to flatten me. Got 100 of em coming my way. Along with some 5F-PB-22..which has, I take note, appeared in certain legal smoke blends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5F-PB-22

Basically a quinoline carboxylate ester as a bioisostere of the formerly popular napthoyl group in many of the JWH series. It seems to hit pretty hard, fast come-up when smoked, more or less instantly. But very short acting, probably the shortest cannabinoid I've tried.
 
4-EAR causes pulmonary hypertensiom worse than any other stimulant on the market.

People be fuxking their hearts up and vendors know thats anything but good news.
 
Pulmonary hypertension seems to be a big problem with the aminorex series in general. Assuming the abbreviation stands for 4-ethylaminorex.

Anyone tried a product called K-max ? just being promoted at the moment as an NMDA antagonist. No idea if its going to be any good or not but I have a small amount on the way for testing.
 
Probably one of the worthless ketamine analogues vendors hyped.

The current hype are sure to dissapoint aswell.

Lets get them PCE analogues a goin
 
Unlikely since that damned ban came into force. Fuckers pretty much did a number on a very large number of the arylcyclohexylamines.

That diphenidine looks interesting alright, from the reports going around it.
 
Aye, it's a shame about the arylcyclohexylamines. I'll miss the 3-meo's that's for sure.
Are the thiophene PCP analogs, ie tiletamine covered by the ban?

edit: yes they are
 
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Pulmonary hypertension seems to be a big problem with the aminorex series in general. Assuming the abbreviation stands for 4-ethylaminorex.
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didnt know this was the case really... interesting...
could be mixed with viagra, since that one was developed to help with pulmonary hypertension....

anyway, ive not heard of new stims coming our way in long time. fluorocaine never materialized and 5me mda disappeared in shame before it ever took off if im not mistaken
 
Well I can report back on 5-meo-dalt. I wasn't dosing sensibly as I was in the midst of an 8 day 3g ethylphenidate/etiz/alcohol session. It was nice and pleasant mdma-lite experience both with small oral doses and little lines but on Easter Sunday dumped a load in a glass of vodka (probably about 80mg) and the walls started melting at precisely the same time my wife came down and asked me what was for dinner.... As a secret lemonade drinker this was a little tricky talking to her as she morphed into a weird gnome.

...Still rode it out and am now taking a little break...
 
damn congrats on playing it cool.
anyways I have seen that a popular site is advertising Mebroqualone. Im hoping its somewhat more consistent that Etaqualone as that really got my hopes up and turned out not to be too great.
 
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5F-PB-22..which has, I take note, appeared in certain legal smoke blends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5F-PB-22

Basically a quinoline carboxylate ester as a bioisostere of the formerly popular napthoyl group in many of the JWH series. It seems to hit pretty hard, fast come-up when smoked, more or less instantly. But very short acting, probably the shortest cannabinoid I've tried.
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It's brutally strong mate! Blew me away! Also I have found it to be the most addictive one so far.

Found myself getting through a g in a few days easily 8( Which I guess makes sense if you found it short acting as well
 
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