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Do you prefer psychedelia or just empathogenic effects? What's your favourite flavour of crisps?
 
ColtDan said:
Ok might order some 5-APB instead of 5-MPAB, anyone tried both? which should i get? 5-APB is cheaper than the M
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Not necessarily (if we're talking 5-APB.HCl). Dan, as you're a fan of 6-APB, you'll probably be underwhelmed by 5-APB on its lonesome (good to mix with 6).
 
Transform said:
Do you prefer psychedelia or just empathogenic effects? What's your favourite flavour of crisps?
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empathogenic effects mainly, for some reason the trippy-ness of 6 used to end up giving me a headache, at least i think i was that, i did love the dreamy lovely trippy side but... dunno. could do with an alternative to 6-APB, did a lot of mdma and meph, both of which i cant get hold of any decent stuff at the mo, loved them both amazing, dunno about crisps haha dont eat many, cheese and onion are goooood

Ok Mela, couldnt remember if 5-APB was good on its own, ill buy some more 5-MAPB, i like the stuff but its a bit too mongy, started off very good but seems to built tolerance and lose the stim after a few once a week useage
 
mixed that 6-APB with meph and md before, mashed beyond belief, seemed to mix quite well, eye wiggles spangled off my nut,

NEVER mix it with MXE though, came home after a long mashup of 6-APB and hoofed some lines, was nice then turned nastym infact most stuff mixed with MXE turns it fucked up weird apart from benzos
 
What sort of duration are people getting with 5-MAPB? I've only done 6-APB once when the original orange pellets came out, did 1 1/2 and it was nice but the residual stimulation was total shite, put me off ever since......
 
red&black said:
What sort of duration are people getting with 5-MAPB? I've only done 6-APB once when the original orange pellets came out, did 1 1/2 and it was nice but the residual stimulation was total shite, put me off ever since......
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Recent experience: 100mg oral at around 8pm, boosted by 50mg oral at ~10pm -asleep around 4am.
 
Its main benefit over the x-APBs is the quicker launch and shorter duration (and workable nasal ROA). It seems it can have some residual stim at lower cosyish doses, but once around ~150mg+ it tends to get mongy/sledgy with little residual stim, IME. I generally see similar in others reports (residual stim at <100mg).

But as far as basic subjective effects go - doesn't really stand apart from the APBs (like a less trippy 6-APB). Some peeps are reporting brain zaps after use (so seems to lead to major 5-HT dump).
 
fuck knows whats going on with 5-MAPB, first few times were good now it just feels piss poor crap, its good... in a shit way
 
How often have you taken it? Its intense serotonin release means that it's likely to be reasonably neurotoxic and build tolerance really rather swiftly.
 
6-APB and 5-APB also have the same problem whereby the first few sessions are excellent, but further sessions feel increasingly dulled, no matter how long you wait in between. Kinda weird; MDMA doesn't seem to suffer from this nearly half as much. Does MDA?
 
i wonder if there are less toxic batches of meph. remmebering the stinking sweat from some stuff and then other stuff which wasnt so smelly but the heart palpitations the next day were insane. i mean i would just be lieing down watching telly and it would make me bolt upright into a sitting position, this would happen a few times thoughout the day. its only these factors which turn me towards the apbs really and the lgeal side of things obvisly.
 
Transform said:
How often have you taken it? Its intense serotonin release means that it's likely to be reasonably neurotoxic and build tolerance really rather swiftly.
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every weekend for awhile, like i did with 6-APB, and MDMA, and meph, and all of it. apart from the 3 mentioned would be excellent every weekend, the meph and mdma would work without fail but leave me feeling rough. where do you get the intense serotonin release from, theres nothing intense about it i hardly feel that good off it

Albion said:
6-APB and 5-APB also have the same problem whereby the first few sessions are excellent, but further sessions feel increasingly dulled, no matter how long you wait in between. Kinda weird; MDMA doesn't seem to suffer from this nearly half as much. Does MDA?
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Dont think MDA does. or meph

adam west said:
i wonder if there are less toxic batches of meph. remmebering the stinking sweat from some stuff and then other stuff which wasnt so smelly but the heart palpitations the next day were insane. i mean i would just be lieing down watching telly and it would make me bolt upright into a sitting position, this would happen a few times thoughout the day. its only these factors which turn me towards the apbs really and the lgeal side of things obvisly.
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yeah i think some batches were less toxic or whatever, i remember lying in bed feeling sweaty and fucked from some batches, other batches were just heart palpy rough
 
I've just been through a bout of withdrawals from AH7921. I assume it was AH7921 and not kratom anyway because I was continuing to take kratom and it made fuck all difference.

The worst part was the sweats. Every fucking night, waking up several times drenched in sweat. And of course waking up in the morning, drenched in sweat, and not feeling in any way refreshed by sleep. Then lethargy, apathy and general misery through the day. Feeling the cold more than I would normally. That was a big thing that I wasn't expecting. During the wds I was wrapping up with scarf and hat and gloves and still feeling cold and horrible. After taking more AH7921 I was outside in my t-shirt with a smile on my face.

As I said, kratom made no difference at all, which was a shame. Maybe that's because I'm already dependent on the kratom :)

I gave in eventually and took some more AH7921. Just a small amount, about 100mg, but it was enough to fix everything. The difference was huge. I was bouncing about, full of energy and even joi de vivre. I probably took more than was necessary to fend off the wds because I actually felt much better than I normally do anyway.

Anyway, Just posting this as a warning, to say AH7921 is no joke of a drug. It's not that great of an opioid, but it can be fun and it can be useful. However it comes at a cost. My withdrawals should be back today. I intend to combat them with methoxetamine and ethylphenidate rather than more AH7921. I might get hold of some diphenhydramine. Clonidine sounds like it would be the best treatment but I can't see how to get hold of it without a prescription and at this stage I don't want to go to my doctor for help with opioid dependency. I don't want my AH7921 dependency to get any worse. It's not nice waking up in a bed soaked with your own sweat. I never got wds like this on o-desmethyltramadol. I can only imagine the misery that heroin addicts go through when withdrawing, it must be extremely unpleasant.

That said, I'll be ordering some more in case it gets banned.
 
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