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New (or relatively new) RCs - Feels somewhere inbetween

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Toucan said:
I don't know what to say about ah7921 it lasts so long, roa is oral-only really and it's kinda strange feeling. I think I'd rather pods.
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It lasts forever! Strange stuff. It can be vaped but I find it a bit of a faff, eating works well though if you have a big enough stomach.
 
knockando said:
I was on the AH7921 last night, maybe about 400mg. Was nice enough, (is nice enough, I'm still feeling it), but I can't keep anything down. I've puked up five times already. :! I'm thinking it might have been responsible for one of my bokefests a few weeks back. Anyone else get a spew carnival on the stuff? I've had several vomit-free times on it though.

It's not especially unpleasant, my stomach seems to be quite good at doing a painless trouble-free chunder, no dry barfing, just one smooth productive hurl, Regurgitation Royale, you might say. But it's annoying and everything I've eaten or drank is literally going straight down the drain without bothering to nourish me first.
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Well at least this means you are still in your opiate honeymoon, although only just by your accounts mate. Be careful ;)
 
I'm not sure why it vanished originally, I imagine there was only one lab producing it that stopped doing so.
It was going to resurface about a month ago but that coincided nicely with the ACMD's decision to include it in the list of to-be-banned substances.
It was surprising really because most of what they ban are more popular drugs wheras o-DT has kept a relatively low profile.
Surprising until you read the letter anyway 8)

ACMD said:
O-desmethyltramadol is being offered for sale as a „legal high‟ and has been
identified as an undeclared ingredient of a „legal high‟ product called „Krypton‟.
„Krypton‟ is sold as an herbal material, claimed to consist of Kratom leaves
(Mitragyna speciosa) from a Southeast Asian tree which, when chewed,
produce narcotic and opiate-like effects. The packaging of „Krypton‟ is very
similar to that of „Spice‟ (an herbal material containing synthetic
cannabinoids), that is, brightly printed foil sachets containing a few grams of
ground herbal material of unknown origin and authenticity. As with „Spice‟, the
apparently natural herbal product has been found to be „spiked‟, in this case with synthetic O-desmethyltramadol, to produce additional psychoactive
effects
1
.
Toxicology reports from Germany have identified traces of Odesmethyltramadol in the urine of „Krypton‟ users without evidence of use of
tramadol or N-desmethyltramadol, another major tramadol metabolite. This
indicates that the users had been exposed directly to O-desmethyltramadol
2,3
.
In late December 2010, authorities in Sweden reported a series of 9 fatalities
associated with use of „Krypton‟, apparently resulting from opiate-type
respiratory depression, which could also result from Kratom ingestion. The
presence of O-desmethyltramadol in urine samples in the absence of
tramadol or other tramadol metabolites again indicated that the users had
been exposed directly to O-desmethyltramadol. The authors suggested that
the addition of the potent opiate synthetic O-desmethyltramadol to the
naturally occurring opiate 7-hydroxymitragynine in herbal Kratom produced a
lethal mixture
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Another case of branded products ruining the rc market and also this is misleading because unlike what the ACMD say, krypton disappeared years ago...
 
hx_ said:
Exactly, whatever they decided to sweep up off the floor of their warehouse. How can you be sure it doesn't contain MXE? The only way really is get some taken off you by the police. Either that or pay an independent analysis lab to analyse it, but I think they'd probably be obliged by law to go to the police if they find any illegals.
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how do i know there is no mxe in it because iv done shed loads of mxe and the affects are nothing like it at all to totally different drugs in that sense .

p.s. if i said before its has mxe style affect blank that its not il report more later as my order nver turned up today still in transit so it says
 
I got a free sample of 5f-ur-144 with my last order of goodies. Ive read a little on the substance and im getting mixed reviews, does it have any benefits over cannabis and as I've always got the real stuff to hand I dont want to take a RC that's a poor immitation if thats all it is. I'm really not a fan of the synthetic cannabinoids they don't feel clean as if its like they are forced. Also has anyone tried mixing it with methoxetamine??
 
davesquirrel said:
I got a free sample of 5f-ur-144 with my last order of goodies. Ive read a little on the substance and im getting mixed reviews, does it have any benefits over cannabis and as I've always got the real stuff to hand I dont want to take a RC that's a poor immitation if thats all it is. I'm really not a fan of the synthetic cannabinoids they don't feel clean as if its like they are forced. Also has anyone tried mixing it with methoxetamine??
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If you have a got easy access to the real deal, I'd stick to that. I'm only really using cannabinoids because they're cheap as dirt and I don't have to be involved with all sorts of shady dealings.
It's kinda hard to explain, but if cannabis hits 5 out of 5, the cannabinoids hit maybe 1 to 3 out of of 5 and it "feels" synthetic and fake in both taste and buzz. Like you're pushing those 3 harder because you don't have all 5 and it feels unbalanced.

I haven't tried 5f-ur-144, but I have UR-144 and MAM-2201 and they seem to have a good synergy effect with mxe.
I can take a small oral mxe dosage and it sort of puts me in a slightly different headspace but for the most part I'm still sober and can go about my business without issues. However if I smoke some UR-144 even hours after I did the mxe, the trip takes a totally new direction.

I get some visual type effects, color enhancement(everything gets an orange hue) and some depth perception messyness. Some empty feeling in my head like the one you get if you sit down for a long time and then stand up quickly. My head feels really clear or maybe empty is the word, and I wobble around like I'm at sea. Nice for lying down and doing nothing if you hit the sweet spot, but it's easy to overdo it.
 
dithoxetamine?? :?
probably just mxe, I stay the hell away from branded products anyway
 
Aye fuck Branded products, i've got plenty of dust in my vaccum cleaner than i can mix with nutmeg, bag it up and call it 'nutty professor' or some shite. Afaik odt vanished due to the precursors having very very strict punishments in china, and it was bloody hard to find a lab to synth it. Oo real 2mk? Hope its better than the n-ek.. but isnt it gonna be illegal here due to the upcoming bans? Also does anyone know the actual ban date?
 
Cannabinoid edibles are great, made some sugar cookies, the real trouble is stopping myself from eating them and making sure house mates don't nick them and end up floored. XD
 
ColourfulKronos said:
Oo real 2mk? Hope its better than the n-ek.. but isnt it gonna be illegal here due to the upcoming bans? ?
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N-ek? Hmmmm sad fail really :(

Before it also gets caught up in the ban, you might try 3-meo-pcp if you can handle minute weights safely. My experiments are at an early stage but are surprisingly interesting & long-lived at very low 5mg doses. Those with Dissociaive tolerance might carefully increase that. Suff ain't cheap though, even at discounted about-to-be-bannned pricings!
 
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