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fernsal1

fernsal1

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I want to try the mints, but im from CALI
i started rolling on june 25 2010 at a massive in Cali took half a pill and didnt really feel anything. the next day i took one whole one and was rolling HARD.throughtout the night i ended up taking 4 pillz i wasnt really informed on the damges it could do to your brain or how this drug worked. I thought that by takeing more it would only feel better.
then about 26 days off from rolling and took 1 and rolled pretty good but not like the first time.
after that i waited another 27 days and took 4 pills at another massive and after that i waited 35 days before rolling at an eevent where i took another four pills. then there was another event just 24 days after and took 1 pill the thinhg is i didnt really feel anything.
For the most part i only take pokez and i just wanted to know how long i would have to wait before i could roll off 2 pillz again.MY TOLERENCE IS WAY TO HIGH FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST STARTED IVE BEEN TOLD. is there anyway i could speed up my recovery or lower my tolerance to 2-3 pills???????
I take multivtamins, magnesium pills, fish oils, and exercise and eat fairly well.
how long would be a good amount of time to wait before rolling????????
& does anyone have advice on nootropic drugs?????????
PLUR-cookiEz
 
why do you intentionally misspell things?
could just be bunk pills maang, it doesnt sound like you've abused MDMA TBH.
90mg a pop, thats not that much MDMA..
doubledrop and if that doesnt get you anywhere then you might has soemthing to worry about.
oh reread real quick
haha naw i aint think you has tolerance bad
pokeballs are at best 90mg each, less than a full proper dose of MDMA
1 pill does not equal 1 dose, you're fine
 
you can take 5-htp but it's controversial.

i would recommend taking a three month break since you've just started rolling. but the way your going doing it every month you are going to lose the magic fast. i do it maybe 1 or two times a year and i will probably never loose the magic like that. i dont agree with rolling once a month, especially taking 4 pills everytime. thats around 400mg's and thats way too much for a beginner. i would wait 6 months if i were you but atleast 3 months. 2-3 pills max.
 
Taking 4 pills is really rather excessive, any more than 3 in a night and you're going to just be increasing side effects. Even then most people shouldn't need to take that much, unless there is some reason they are less effected by MDMA (usually a medication conflict)
 
The longer you do these month to month usages the higher your tolerance is going to get and the more pills youre going to take to chase the high. Try to wait 2-3 months between rolls, the longer the better.
 
Some good advice here, I would also suggest you check out the Basics section of The Directory so you can get well edumacated about mdma.
 
I've been wondering about this whole 2-3 months thing for a while...

So from the research that exists, it says that seratonin is pretty much back to normal after 3 weeks right? So where did this 2-3 months figure start coming into play?
 
There are no absolute answers. There is no clock going off in your brain waiting for some magical 3 week or 3 month timer to go off.

MDMA works best when taken in moderate doses and at infrequent intervals. The more you take and the more often you take it, the quicker you will build tolerance and "lose the magic". If you already feel like you're not able to recapture the same feeling of ecstasy, stop taking it for a good long while. Save it for a special event once or twice a year.

What Shulgin suggested was good advice based on his experience. A dose of 100-125 mg followed by one 50-75mg booster if you feel you need one is the most you want to take no more than 3 or 4 times a year.
 
I can speak to tolerance, had many problems with that during my hard core days. I have found over the years that once a quarter (every three months) has been a rule of thumb for me. It really depends on the pills you find though, some are great and others just suck. You may be finding a mix - you find good consistent quality you obviously could shorten the time frame. Many people speak of 5-htc, ascorbic acid (juice) mixtures and other gibberish useful - though I have always found a good diet and health lifestyle mixed with some hard core recreation makes it all balance.
 
EpicurusFire said:
I've been wondering about this whole 2-3 months thing for a while...

So from the research that exists, it says that seratonin is pretty much back to normal after 3 weeks right? So where did this 2-3 months figure start coming into play?
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First of all, point me to your research if you could =) It should also be noted that 5-HT levels and down-regulation are different.

When I was a kid it was a week. Then a few years back, I heard two weeks. When I first got an account here, it was a month.

These days I'm seeing three months more and more often. The longer you go without e, the better your roll will be. I have a couple friends that have been rolling once a month (occasionally waiting longer, but never less) for years that still have the magic =D

It's simply agreed that the long you wait, the better your roll will be. It's like your brain is a gas tank and the longer you wait to roll again, the fuller that tank will be ;)
 
Vitamin C and E are there to provide antioxidant support, theoretically something that could be provided by a full and rich diet but it's better to be on the safe side, besides vitamins aren't hard to source. 5-HTP to reduce recovery time, probably not all that necessary but if you get hangovers it definitely helps with their duration. Magnesium to help with jaw clenching (though I personally can't say I notice a difference, every little bit helps.

I'd say two weeks is the theoretical minimum between doses, you can get away with less but not for long, and given antioxidants/5-HTP/single days only/good health you could PROBABLY pull this off. I'd really recommend at least one month between doses for good measure though, use something else during the other weekends of the month if you must.
 
i made similar mistakes when i first started rolling. i tried rolling two times shortly after my first experience, and it didn't work... no euphoria. but then i found this site, did some reading, and waited 4.5 months before re-attempting.
after my break, i rolled harder than i did the first time! i'll always wait at least 3 months between rolls now, it's wayyy better. if you're taking long breaks, tolerance won't be an issue.
 
It sounds like your good to go brain damage wise.. you took kind of a high amount for pokes and first time but i say a month or two in between rolls with some steps taken and you'll be fine.
For tolerance that sucks.. i rolled of 1 pill every now and then probably once or twice a month for a good year when i first started.
Try taking a 2-3 or even 4 month break. it helps your tolerance go down steeply.
 
Thanks everybody for the advice. I have been eating fairly well and exercising daily. So far im on my 4th week break, my brain seems to be getting better as in memory and my mood is a bit back to normal also i find it easier to fall asleep no more insomnia:) i plan on rolling sometime in february or march next year and will wait at least 3 months to keep tolerance down and hopefully not loose "the magic." PLUR -cookiEz
 
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