New and relatively new RCs - Guinea Pigs queue on the left please

[Munroe]

This doesn't sound like a very good idea. What is the dosage like? In the microgram range?

Yeah, microgram range dosage, being sold as pure powder or as a lactose mix.

 

[trammies]

Well Piracetam really has been a surprise. I wasnt expecting much from it at all, I just liked the sound of the suggestions that it could possibly help with neural re-growth etc in the brain and provide other antioxydant type effects there too. I was expecting something kind of like vitamin tablets in that you cant really feel anything but you believe they are doing you good. I had read that Piracetam could possibly help with cumulative cognitive and memory enhancement over time. I certainly wasnt expecting to feel much of anything with any immediacy. I think this factor is interesting because it rules out the effects I felt as being merely placebo.

I took one of the 400mg tablets at lunch time today in combination with a Choline tablet as apparently Piracetam wont work atall without Choline supplement. Within a few hours later i was feeling markedly boosted and having lots of memories coming back to me that i hadnt thought of for some time. I was coming to new conclusions about some of those memories too. Although Piracetam is meant to be good for memory i had actually forgotten that I had taken it lol, so when i remembered that i had done, it was a kind of "wow" feeling, "so thats where all these memories are coming from".

I can definately see a potential in this, especially considering the effects are meant to increase cumulatively over several weeks. I dont think this stuff is gonna be for everyone, and I think I'm gonna need to go careful with it, not sure if its gonna be for me, it may have its uses, but TBH i didnt actually want to be that up this afternoon, was wanting a chilled one, and was particularly surprised to be up considering i'd also been drinking poppy pod tea with promethazine all day. Took two Etizolams early to dampen this down a bit, and they have taken the edge off....

Any one else here tried it ?

EDIT/UPDATE: Its now the next day and it feels like the effects have stayed with me throughout the day, though I have not re-dosed from yesterday. Feeling more energetic and generally quicker mentally, depression has lifted....

I've been very interested in Piracetam for quite a long time. Do you know whether many/any long term negative effects have been found?
Gonna start doing some research, been a while since I've read anything about it.
Almost everyone gives a glowing report of it. Almost sounds like just what I need for my horribly low attention span, haha.

EDIT: I've also seen 2-MeO-Ket popping up. Definitely looks interesting, at least to try. It'll be bad craic if it turns into another "roflcoptr" incident, we don't need more attention on the RC Market, haha.
I never got around to trying MXE, but if 2-MeO-Ket does end up being more similar to Ket than MXE is, I may get myself a wee sample.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Yeah, microgram range dosage, being sold as pure powder or as a lactose mix.

Holy shit, the bodies are gonna be piling up. People can't even seem to manage to not OD on phenazepam, let alone micrograms. At least phenazepam was forgiving in the sense that it was guaranteed death!

 

[Munroe]

Holy shit, the bodies are gonna be piling up. People can't even seem to manage to not OD on phenazepam, let alone micrograms. At least phenazepam was forgiving in the sense that it was guaranteed death!

It may have been slightly higher, but definitely lose single milligram dose, the pure powder is being punted at a high price though, so hopefully that'll deter a few.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

It may have been slightly higher, but definitely lose single milligram dose, the pure powder is being punted at a high price though, so hopefully that'll deter a few.

I think some 'enterprising' individual will buy a gram of it to bash large amounts of smack with unevenly, then kablamo

 

[Cornishman]

Are there any RC's out there that give an intense rush similar to cocaine when IV'd?

 

[knock]

Have you tried Alton Towers, Cornish?

 

[Cornishman]

Haha, no.

Although base jumping with wingsuits would deffo be a worthy replacement. (probably cheaper and safer too).

 

[knock]

OK, as far as I can tell 50mg AH7921, orally, has no effect. Reluctant to dose higher given how sore it is.

 

[Mugz]

Has anyone tried 4-MeMABP? I know that it's not 100% new and not legal in the UK but it's the first time that I've seen it around. The ADD thread doesn't make it sound all that good from the few comments in it that are over 2 years old, anyone got any more recent knowledge about it?

 

[Transform]

The opioid is the N-butanamide analogue of fentanyl. Shortened to B-F or "be fearful".


Very little info since the vendor seems to be giving only limited customers access. Thank goodness.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183677

Ok, so despite what I said, yesterday I weighed out 100mg of the 1:1000 powder mix. I cut it into 2 equal(ish) piles. I snorted 1, and waited 15 minutes. Created just enough effect to know that more would be active. Snorted the other. Maybe about as high as I would be if I ate several hydrocodone. I do have a tolerance requiring >20mg of HC to acheive threshold. I then started doing bumps, giving 10 minutes or so inbetween, until I reach a decent level at about 200-250mg. This was maybe equal to snorting a 30mg Roxy. I decided not to do more, as I found that I had a few doses of 2C-E left. The experience lasted maybe 2 hours. I would reccommend buying the 1:200 mix, especially if you are snorting it. 200mg is a lot of inactive to put up your nasal cavity. Plus side, no burn, negligable drip, slight numbing. I will definitely buy this product again, as soon as I burn through 25g...but next time, I will buy the 1:200 mix.

Edit: I thought I would clear things up a bit...They sell it mix 1:1000, 1:200, and pure.

I should revise my assessment a bit. Regular Fentanyl should have a potency roughly equivalent to 10mg of morphine per 100ug of Fent. If B-Fen is as potent, my dose should have been equivalent to 20-25mg of morphine, used nasally. It prolly was, but it has been some years since I snorted morphine, and I had a much larger tolerance than. In those years, I once ate 120mg OC with 60mg morphine. So, following this logic, 1g of 1:1000 mix should equal 100mg morphine. This is not a lethal dose for most opiate users. Therefore, the 1:1000 mix could prolly be viewed as "safe-ish" for those who lack self-control. But please, don't take my word for it...I have no formal training in chemistry or pharmacology.

EDIT: Pure B-F costs [around a couple of thousand Euros/gram]. I doubt we will see it hit the street pure, as the economics just are not there. The 1:200 mix costs [about 5 times more weight-for-weight]. This is a possibility. I do not feel like the 1:1000 mix will, as I prolly could have handled up to a 1/2g. I have personally IVd a 60mg MSContin, with nod and nausea, but no signs of OD. I had little tolerance at the time, but I also did not get all the MS out of the gel which water+heat makes the MSContin turn into...I'm kinda glad that I didn't.

Also, I love this picture that one of the larger UK vendors is using for 2-MeO-Ketamine: clearly just edited in MS paint to turn the Cl of ketamine into an --O

http://i.imgur.com/IZKIml.jpg

 

[Munroe]

*self-snip oooooh I feel like a mod*

Probably gonna end up getting some for myself soon anyway. Not the sort of thing I should stock up on though, considering my propensity to chomp my way through any opiates I happen to have any number of.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

So, 100,000mg of morphine in a g of pure? That does seem viable on the streets to me, even at thousands per g.

 

[Albion]

Lethal would be an understatement, by the sounds.

What's the word on AH-7921?

 

[Munroe]

The word a few pages back seemed to be "stings".

 

[knock]

Lethal would be an understatement, by the sounds.

What's the word on AH-7921?

Doesn't seem to work. I gave it three hours then took 10 grams of kratom and now I'm happy!

 

[Albion]

You would think mr vendor would guinea pig AH-7921 before making it available for commercial release...Shame.

 

[hx_]

Has anyone tried 4-MeMABP? I know that it's not 100% new and not legal in the UK but it's the first time that I've seen it around. The ADD thread doesn't make it sound all that good from the few comments in it that are over 2 years old, anyone got any more recent knowledge about it?

I think thats the para-methyl analogue of buphedrone.

Buphedrone was pretty shit and para-methyl stimulant analogues can be rather dodgy safety wise (PMAA/PMA).

 

[Transform]

I think thats the para-methyl analogue of buphedrone.

Buphedrone was pretty shit and para-methyl stimulant analogues can be rather dodgy safety wise (PMAA/PMA).

PMA and PMMA usually refer to the para-methoxy analogues, while 4-MA and 4-MMA usually refer to the para-methyl analogues. Confusing, I know.

What's even more confusing is that mephedrone, 4-methylmethcathinone was reported not to be neurotoxic, if I recall.

I suspect that 4-MeMABP will have a similar pharmacokinetic fate, but judging from anecdotal reports it doesn't seem worth trying.

 

[Vader]

I see a new arylcyclohexylamine is going to be doing the rounds soon going by the name of 2-MK or 2-(2-Methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexanone. Never heard of it before, apparently it has 40% of the activity of MXE and 80% of good old ketamine.

That's the systematic name for the thing that has been called "2-MeO-ketamine" by vendors, ketamine with a methoxy instead of a chloro.