New and relatively new RCs - Guinea Pigs queue on the left please

[hx_]

They are illegal in the UK, thread always get de-railed. Then railed again.

Classic!

BTW, anyone who was interested in AM-1220 and AM-2233; in my opinion they're rather shite.

They both have such high vaporisation temps that you end up burning them before you can inhale them properly. This means they end up tasting like shit. Also 2233 seems to induce rather worrying tinnitus. I literately will not smoke/try to vape them.

I ended up throwing away the AM-2233 due to the tinnitus whenever you actually got high, no matter on ROA.

Ended up eating the AM-1220 100mg at a time in milk and got a mild high (did have HUGE cannabinoid tolerance at the time, about 10x that of a "naive synthetics smoker")

You're not really supposed to hype RCs that are "soon to hit the market". If people are going to use etaqualone, please be very careful, start small and work your way up, and DON'T mix with booze or other downers (or, if you must, get a feel for the material first). It's likely to have a relatively low margin of safety.

QFT. This is the kind of stuff that could end up killing people, there's already people doing stupid stuff with etiz and these are FAR more dangerous, in a potentially euphoric then lethal fashion.



As for that 5-IT, it sounds like the 5HIT,

Sorry, someone was gonna say it eventually tho

 

[*dharmabum*]

Yes I'm glad to see etaqualone is going to make a comeback, I just missed out on getting some when it was available overseas a few years ago and have been regretting it ever since, it probably wont be that good but I'd love to try something like 'ludes

And yes, it's good that this will be slightly more difficult to get than some things, it's the sort of thing people need to be very careful about doses and how it synergises with other drugs, as far as I'm aware a lot of people died from the qualudes/booze mix in the 70s

 

[SpecialK_]

What is it in that Platinum Star smoking blend? Apparently it's already ended up a few people in A&E I suspect it's due to it being similar to the likes of the JWH blends that are easy to have a little too much of if inexperienced with smoking.

 

[hx_]

What is it in that Platinum Star smoking blend? Apparently it's already ended up a few people in A&E I suspect it's due to it being similar to the likes of the JWH blends that are easy to have a little too much of if inexperienced with smoking.

I'd guess AM2201, I often smoke enough to end up in what would be what is termed as "the fear" territory for naive smokers; dissociation, colour brightening, a ridiculous mental* and body high, psychological chest tightness, heart racing, sounds amplified, mild tunnel vision and distance perception distortions like things floating back and forth. If I was a non drug user I'd be calling myself an ambulance.

The amount to cause that sort of trip can be around 10mg and most find anything over 5mg uncomfortable.

Blend makers don't care though and don't wish to have a weak product, plus its so cheap it feels tight arsed not making it super strong.

An alright trip if thats what you're expecting and can handle yourself, but most people expect blends to be almost as strong as weed at best, can be way stronger.


*Looping thoughts of "Fuck me how am i this high this is too high how the hell could anyone ever be this high", you can't think much else other than, "haha" or "OH SHIT".

 

[SpecialK_]

Fuck that, hearing this alongside with the suspected 'withdrawal effects' from excessive use just puts me off entirely. I'd much rather stick to my weed or a dissociative like ketamine if I was looking for that sort've high. I suggest people stay away from these chemicals as they seem to carry much more side effects than even the JWH series.

 

[hx_]

Fuck that, hearing this alongside with the suspected 'withdrawal effects' from excessive use just puts me off entirely. I'd much rather stick to my weed or a dissociative like ketamine if I was looking for that sort've high. I suggest people stay away from these chemicals as they seem to carry much more side effects than even the JWH series.

Ah yes that cause I was stupidly irresponsible with it, I only smoke it every few days now at most.



Ah I used it fine for 6 months on and off, sometimes daily at a max of 50mg a day with weeks off here n there. In smaller amounts its a lovely high that can still affect you through MDMA or speed, my fav use for it.

After having no probs for 6 months I stupidly got a pocket sized pipe and started to get high 24/7. Within 2 weeks I'd escalated use to 300mg+ a day, smoking every hour and that's when things started going awry, if you take 2-300 doses of anything daily it'll fuck you up! Stopped when I actually weighed what it was taking me to get very mildly high; 25mg!

Went pretty much cold turkey and didn't feel normal till 3-4 days later. Felt gack at the time tho, couldnt eat or sleep n everything seemed "off". Week later I was my normal self and felt fine.

Think the reason it happened was the cheapness, constant super bakedness for less than £20 a week at the heaviest points of abuse =/

 

[geriatric_pornstar]

Think you mean ethylphenidate

I've heard it's pretty decent.. i'm gonna get some myself when i get some money.

And yeah it's methylphenidates version of cocaethylene. (Cocaine + Alcohol = cocaethylene and methylphenidate + alcohol = ethylphenidate)

you have just answered my question for my thread about ritalin and alcohol, best get me some ethylphenidate ordered a.s.a.p!!!

 

[Albion]

Careful if your ethylphenidate is the burning kind!

Since snorting the stuff ended up burning away a couple o layers of septum after less than a month of on/off usage.

I haven't touched EPH for nearly 2 weeks and my nose is still just oozing blood non stop.

Transform has now told me to wash dat shit though...I'd advise everyone does the same

Just having a look now, I imagine acetone would be most suitable, it is very easy to get and most amine salts are sparingly soluble in it.

Yes, you might lose 5% of your active product, but this is a small price to pay for your continued health. Septum surgery costs a LOT more than a gram of EPD

Edit: 39mg of EPD was almost totally insoluble in 2.5mls of warm (undried) acetone. Crush your crystals to a fine powder, place in a cone of filter paper in a funnel and rinse it with 3x5mls washes of cold acetone.


Alternatively you could recrystallise, in which case I found that 0.15mls (5-10% of your acetone volume) of water prompted dissolution. Any more than this and you'll have to evaporate everything and start again!

 

[hx_]

Careful if your ethylphenidate is the burning kind!

Since snorting he stuff ended up burning away a couple o layers of septum after less than a month of on/off usage.

I haven't touched EPH for nearly 2 weeks and my nose is still just oozing blood non stop.

Transform has now told me to wash dat shit though...I'd advise everyone does the same

Hm I noticed a scab form exactly where the ethylphenidate hit and its persisted for a week or two due to picking/scratching. Worryingly I don't normally sniff up that nostril; listen to JPS/Transform guys.

Saying that, what exactly should we be trying to wash out or is that an unknown? Should ethylphenidate not burn if pure? I got a g free as a sample n only a little as been used. It burned alot, different kind of pain to meph/mdma, did feel corrosive tbh.

 

[Albion]

Hm I noticed a scab form exactly where the ethylphenidate hit and its persisted for a week or two due to picking/scratching. Worryingly I don't normally sniff up that nostril; listen to JPS/Transform guys.

Saying that, what exactly are we should be trying to wash out or is that an unknown? Should ethylphenidate not burn if pure then? I got a g free as a sample n only a little as been used.

Well that's the thing, apparently it shouldn't burn, and people seem to have access to non-corrosive batches, such as Transform.

I'd be glad if the corrosion is actually optional, but not glad for the havoc it may have unnecessarily reeked on my septum.

 

[Poodles!]

5-apb in my experience is more potent than 6-apb mg for mg.

serotonin in the stomach is related to the body's detection of whether it's been poisoned. if it thinks it's been poisoned it has two mechanisms to remove the poison, throwing up or diarrhoea. it's essentially a normal reaction "on steroids" as it were as you are using a serotonin releasing substance, even though you don't want it to be. in general I get one or the other but not both. If I end up being sick then I won't get the shits and vice versa. though sometimes I get neither, though that's probably dose related.

edit correcting a mistake.

The APB's seems to have a fairly high affinity for the 5-HT₄ receptor located in the enteric nervous system (the "little brain" in the GI tract). There's a couple of laxatives which which act as 5-HT₄ agonists, but IIRC they've been discontinued due to 5-HT2B agonism which many of you will know is responsible for MDMA's (and other serotonin releasing agents) cardiotoxicity.

I hope for all our sakes it's not a general trend for 5-HT₄ agonists to have a high affinity for the 5-HT2B receptor too... cardiotoxicity tends to be overlooked quite a bit when talking about entactogens and similar serotonergics as all the focus seems to be on neurotoxicity, especially when folk get hyped up about "non-neurotoxic entactogens" such as MDAI and the like...


Speaking of MDAI, does anyone know anything about this so called "replacement" for the MDAI drought... whilst not the most recreational drug out there, I was quite a fan of MDAI. Could make those dull, restless evenings somewhat more "cosy". Not to mention it combo'd brilliantly with many stims.

 

[hx_]

Well that's the thing, apparently it shouldn't burn, and people seem to have access to non-corrosive batches, such as Transform.

I'd be glad if the corrosion is actually optional, but not glad for the havoc it may have unnecessarily reeked on my septum.

I know its not worth much but look at the pic OfLitteWorth posted (oh the irony, didn't do that on purpose XD), is yours exactly the same crystal structure and mix of sizes/consistency? Mine is, in a diff bag n tis European. If theres a nosekiller batch going round separate from the better stuff we ought to know.

Also my nose is pretty sensitive to things and I think I know the reason - when meph came out I'd never sniffed anything before and no one told me that small shardy crystals needed crushing, it seemed easier to rack up with crystals, it showed it was uncut and also powder sticks to everything so it is awkward was what I thought. My nose tends to easily take damage easily now due to the scar tissue.

 

[Albion]

OfLittleWorth's EPH is from a different vendor judging by the labelling, plus his stuff looks drier than mine, but I can't be sure.

Mine

OLW'S

OfLittleWorth, how much does your stuff burn to the touch? 8)

 

[33Hz]

OfLittleWorth's EPH is from a different vendor judging by the labelling, plus his stuff looks drier than mine, but I can't be sure.

Mine

OLW'S

I have the same stuff as OfLittleWorth, and yeah, it's completely dry. It does sting though when insufflated which can last for around 5-10 seconds. I haven't noticed any major damage yet.

 

[Xamkou]

6-mapb?

Somebody's on the ball !

 

[Poodles!]

Speaking of MDAI, does anyone know anything about this so called "replacement" for the MDAI drought... whilst not the most recreational drug out there, I was quite a fan of MDAI. Could make those dull, restless evenings somewhat more "cosy". Not to mention it combo'd brilliantly with many stims.

To answer my own question...

IAP!! WOO!!

Think I'm gonna like this one!

 

[Xamkou]

There's a couple of exciting Entactogen-Empathogens on the way so it's looking good

 

[SpecialK_]

Anyone tried the Etilaam Etizolam? Where they more consistent than the pellets RC sites were shipping?

 

[rickolasnice]

^ Most of the vendors just sent out Etilaam Etizolam after removing the packaging..

I did, however, notice a vendor selling etizolam pellets the other day that wasn't Etilaam..

Were yours blue with a score down 1 side?

 

[jancrow]

Legit blistered etilaam are blue domed tablets with a score on one side and are brilliant white inside. They really do look like they've been dipped in blue paint. I've always liked them and got the expected effects, similar to diazepam but with a bit more of a mood boost, but people who have taken other benzos a lot don't seem to get the full effects from them even after significant breaks.