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Albion said:
You'd be surprised just how effective antihistamines are. If you find higher doses of ODT make you sick...You now have the antidote!
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Yes, I do, thank you! All I need now is the ODT =D

Will they tame the gag reflex when I'm sipping poppy tea? Something that did that would be a wonder-medicine.
 
Histamine release only ;)

Suppressing the psychology behind the gag reflex is something I find comes with practice. A purely mental block.
 
roganjosh said:
What's the difference between NEK and N-ethyl-nor-ketamine? They look the same to my un-chemically-trained eye in that diagram, apart from the rotation...
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They are the same. Both N-ethy-ketamine and N-ethyl-norketamine are technically interchangeable names for the same molecule, but n-ethyl-norketamine is more correct. NEK probably sounds better for sales purposes. Reading about it's looking like 2-meo-ket is quite weak even compared to normal ket for some reason, so i'm guessing for those of you who are going to go to town on it half gram lines won't be out of the question.
 
Are there any trip reports around for NEK yet?

It looks promising, but since it's a dissociative it's going to have a dark side to some extent.
 
Albion said:
Are there any trip reports around for NEK yet?

It looks promising, but since it's a dissociative it's going to have a dark side to some extent.
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I've seen 2 or 3 but I can't remember where. It sounds the same as ket in terms of experience and duration, but it is slightly more potent.
 
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lol .. ignore me Albion..I'm getting puddled. :D

I just briefly read a couple and it sounds as though its really euphoric. Youre right though.. dissociatives* are quite volatile.

*Does that look like it should be spelt as disassociative to anyone else?
 
Albion he means in relation to K.

I've read a couple of trip reports on both NEK and 2MK, the NEK sounds the better drug altogether. As MSB says from trip reports it should be very similar to decent ketamine but about 1/3rd more potent. I'm very much hoping it will be proper earth shattering hole material.
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
lol .. ignore me Albion..I'm getting puddled. :D

I just briefly read a couple and it sounds as though its really euphoric. Youre right though.. dissociatives* are quite volatile.

*Does that look like it should be spelt as disassociative to anyone else?
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I was hesitant to bring up the euphoria mentioned in the reports, because those people haven't tried real ket. So they probably don't understand that compared to MXE, K is very euphoric. K is much much better in every single way.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I was hesitant to bring up the euphoria mentioned in the reports, because those people haven't tried real ket. So they probably don't understand that compared to MXE, K is very euphoric. K is much much better in every single way.
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Yeah, K has unmistakable dopaminesque activity. But MXE was the first of the two to replicate the effects of MDMA for me, along with mad visuals, if only for a short time; very strange. It was a while before I managed to get a similar experience with K. To be honest, I didn't think much of K until I got it properly into my bloodstream by lining my nose with water before snorting.

I find MXE much easier to get into my bloodstream! I can plug it and get full effects. With K I have to IM it or line my nose. This is because it makes me sneeze, and lining my nose doubles or triples the effects. If I don't prep my nose with water, I have to take so much ket to hole, I take a huge sneezing fit before I've got it all in. It's actually like I'm allergic to it, which is a bit shit for a dissociative fan.

Then again I now have to take so much MXE to get anywhere I've pretty much given up on holes. For the time being.
 
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I seem to have fucked my NMDA receptors after pretty hefty doses of MXE - I was taking silly doses daily at one point, and now even half gram lines of decent ketamine that gets everyone else fucked do very little. I didn't believe it for ages and persisted, but it now seems pointless even trying it.. be interested to see what NEK is like if it's supposed to be more potent, but I suspect I just need to give dissociatives a miss for a while :(
 
I read some places that NEK wasn't going to be as effective nasally, and was better off bombed, is there science to support that theory?
 
It better not be far rather sniff stuff than any other ROA. I'll hopefully be getting the NEK and a wee bit of 2MK to compare if all goes according to plan.

I seem to have fucked my NMDA receptors after pretty hefty doses of MXE - I was taking silly doses daily at one point, and now even half gram lines of decent ketamine that gets everyone else fucked do very little. I didn't believe it for ages and persisted, but it now seems pointless even trying it.. be interested to see what NEK is like if it's supposed to be more potent, but I suspect I just need to give dissociatives a miss for a while
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That's a sickener effie. It would never be worth fucking up your K tollerance for a bit of MXE. I noticed after binging on K, the MXE didnt do much after unless I dosed more but I've never been keen on big lines of it, tastes rank and its more the theraputic effect I liked sometimes, the hole off MXE is vile.

Maybe leave off a while and try NEK if it's supposed to be stronger than K you might get somewhere with that.
 
14-methoxymetopon is an opiate analogue that is a derivative of metopon.

It is a highly potent analgesic drug that is around 500x stronger than morphine when administered systemically; however, when given spinally or supraspinally, it exhibits analgesic activity up to a million fold greater than morphine.

cough *bullshit* cough

Think we have been chatting about it in another thread but thought I would just bring it up here for those who hadn't heard of it.

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