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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

Shambles said:
AKA Troparil apparently. Doesn't sound very cokey but could have some potential... most likely potential to be yet another shitey RC stim but does appear to be some history of use which is a minor bonus. Doesn't sound overly thrilling but who knows? This could be the one that finally breaks the run of godawful stims being churned out. It could...

On second look it looks related to Troparil. They are buggers for using the most obscure nomenclature they possibly can to make it harder to find out exactly what crap fine products they purvey.

Troparil doesn't sound too bad given I'm not so very big on coke but do like full-on dopaminey stims. Kinda sounds like somewhere between coke and EPH (or ideally one of the nicer ones).
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That name doesn't correspond to troparil and IUPAC is the opposite of obscure!

"Reverse esterified" appears to describe a cocaine molecule where the phenyl ester is reversed. It's unclear what implications this would have on the pharmacology.
 
I blame Google. And appalling chemistry knowledge :o

(was the first thing google came up with if you ask it about that name - only spotted later on that actually it was only a partial match)

I'd still say they do use obscure nomenclature purely on the grounds they use two entirely different ways to name the same chemical. Just seems very odd to me. Also rather pointless cos I can't see how it makes any difference one way or t'other. Why not just stick with one? Can actually be kinda tricky to be sure which is which if you order a few things at once cos the names bear no relation to what it says on the site.
 
Mental Kenny said:
Don't give yourself a little break man. Come on :9

For me it's no more dissociatives until the WC
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yea you right. I should really. Infact all stims should I take a long break from, just hard. And its hard enough not doing the PV & analogs, so thats my goal to let them be, as long as I can.

Nice man, but what is the WC m8?
 
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Shambles said:
I'd still say they do use obscure nomenclature purely on the grounds they use two entirely different ways to name the same chemical. Just seems very odd to me. Also rather pointless cos I can't see how it makes any difference one way or t'other. Why not just stick with one? Can actually be kinda tricky to be sure which is which if you order a few things at once cos the names bear no relation to what it says on the site.
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I'm not sure I agree. The IUPAC name is a standardised system which can be used to uniquely identify a compound. However most people will prefer to use the common name which is easier to remember and often easier to understand. I would even say that this is a great example of why a common name is valuable.

For the most part one can ignore the IUPAC name but I found it very useful here to quickly verify whether the structure it described was troparil or not :)
 
That would make sense and explain a thing I've long been somewhat suspicious of. Why they use the "big name" on baggies I'm still not so sure but hopefully for precision. Although knowing vendors that won't be the case in a worryingly large number of cases.
 
Got the Sample (REC), but have no Balls to try the Stuff ;) ...at least not atm!
 
You can buy them OTC. Admittedly not the ones anybody would be likely to take for fun... although plenty are happy to pay £40 down the pub for the dubious pleasure of snorting legal cocaine analogues. We don't have an analogue law like that in the UK afaik. Although does look like it might be headed that way :|

(not that it matters cos all the good stuff gets banned anyway)
 
The exact wording is "ecgonine and any derivative of ecgonine which is convertible to ecgonine or to cocaine". This would not apply to REC because inversion of the ester means that the compound does not contain the ecognine backbone.
 
I stand corrected. Anybody have a clue on ROA for REC? Tried insufflating it and vaporising it so far with no profound effects.
Anyone know if this stuff is likely to get broken down as easily as coke if taken orally?

Worked up to a dosage of 50mg insufflated - increased heart rate, slight jaw tension and loss of appetite but nothing too interesting as of yet.
 
It's likely to be about as stable as cocaine but the interesting thing is that oral cocaine is actually not as ineffective as people think. The short duration makes it seem shit but the bioavailability is actually comparable to nasal.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10954344

Of course if you have good snorting technique the disparity will be greater.

The ultimate method rather than IV or IM is of course plugging. The BA of nasal but no drip into the stomach.
 
Whats the general opinion on BK-2CB? Worth a go? That's the only RC that sounds appealing to me at the moment.
 
Transform said:
It's likely to be about as stable as cocaine but the interesting thing is that oral cocaine is actually not as ineffective as people think. The short duration makes it seem shit but the bioavailability is actually comparable to nasal.
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I thought oral ROA usually made for a longer duration than nasal?

afctu said:
Whats the general opinion on BK-2CB? Worth a go? That's the only RC that sounds appealing to me at the moment.
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Seems very variable according to reports.. A mate has tried it and said it didn't really hit the spot, though.
 
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