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Never used H before how much should I use? PLEASE HELP I DONT WANT TO OD!

Edaw'Naflagn

Edaw'Naflagn

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How much should I snort? I NEVER took H before and this shits pure like not cut and if cut it's 20% cut if that. I don't want to OD so how much should I snort for the first time? I'm not gonna be on any other drugs like benzo's or any other opiates once I use it. So basically I REALLY NEED HELP, PLEASE! I DO NOT WANT TO DIE lol but being serious so really want to do this right an not overdose. So please help me out with this post.
 
pure like not cut and if cut it's 20% cut if that.
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8) most heroin in the US is cut way more than you'd expect, maybe your buddy didn't cut it, but someone up the chain almost assuredly did.

If it's actually heroin then you can expect ~60% bioavailibility from snorting, and it's about 2x as strong as morphine. Try between 10 and 20mg at first (20mg snorted is about 15mg absorbed in your blood, which is equivalent to around 30mg morphine, which is a pretty strong dose for the average person), but even 5mg should provide effects if it's really heroin HCl.

If you don't have a scale then don't "eyeball" it, go out and get a scale... taking too much heroin will make you sick before you reach doses that will kill you, but even then, you don't want to get sick.
 
First do you have any tolerance to opiates? Have you ever taken any other opiates?

I'm gonna assume were speaking of powder here for the sake of the discussion. It's hard to know without a scale exactly to the milligram especially not knowing how much it's cut. The saying goes you can always do more but you can never do less. Start with a match head size dose and go from there. Keep your I take very low and wait 30 minuets and if needed use more. I would also recommend you have someone sober around you just in case who knows what to do if anything happens. Always think ahead and don't isolate yourself.
 
If you can get a scale. I know some are just going to do it and say screw the scale if that's the case start at a very small dose like I said think small match head size. You don't want to be throwing up or incapacitated.
 
Lemme start by saying heroin is bad (duh, I know but I have to say it for harm reductions sake).
Next, if you've never done it before maybe try smoking first. If you snort it and realize you've done too much you're screwed. Not that you can take smoke back but it's easier to gauge how you're feeling since you have to take a hit and wait, then another one. This way you'll ease into it instead of just being super trashed all the sudden.
For me I always nod off before I get to a point where I'm uncomfortable or feel like I'm in OD range. Now everyone's different. That's not me saying: "Smoke up a whole bag you'll be fine". Just use your best judgement and be as safe as you can with this drug.
 
manboychef said:
what are we talking here? bags? a gram what?

I would start with a half bag to see what happens and the rest if need be.
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That is an irresponsible post if I've ever read one. What if his dope is cut with fent? You can't speak in general terms because potentcy of dope varys greatly. I've done dope, that half a dime bag laced with fent that would drop a newbie! If you don't have a scale do as walks said and do a match head bump see where it gets you! You can always add but can't take away!
 
Like others,said.depends on the dope.
If you got a batch of some fire it could be completly different to getting a shitty batch or cut to shit bth.
My first time,was with some okay quality blackk and I got a strong nod from about 200mg iv.

Just cause,I said that DO NOT take it as thats what u should do.
It really depends on what u have.
 
i was talking about stamps. Is fent really that present now? In florida the dope sucks, and I havent't been back to newyork in a while, and I have since stopped using.

Yeah be careful with fent. That stuff is weighed in mcg.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I'd suggest that you do not start using heroin. Nothing good will come from it, and it will not solve any of your problems, and it will create new ones like addiction or worse. Good luck.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/704633-Should-I-Try-Heroin-MEGAThread-v-1/page41
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Absolutely. A head of a match is already considered more than you could handle if it's cut with fentanyl. People actually die using for the first time.

You would really save yourself a quite harsh addiction that will mostly happen at some point. Consider not trying it.
 
manboychef said:
i was talking about stamps. Is fent really that present now? In florida the dope sucks, and I havent't been back to newyork in a while, and I have since stopped using.

Yeah be careful with fent. That stuff is weighed in mcg.
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Hey buddy I meant no disrespect! I'm not aware of any fent going around but you never know. I thought you were just trying to be blasé about it and from other posts I've read of yours I've never seen you try to be an asshole. I just get real cautious with first timers because I feel obligated to warn them. Wish they could see all the misery that shit brought to me and everyone else I've seen strung out,would like to save them the pain. I'm one of a couple out of a group of my friends that's still living, not using dope, and not doing mammoth stretch in the joint. I would preach to these guys(tried it) but it turns them off so I try to make their experience as safe as I can do from a keyboard.
 
I'm with you namnoc...It took years to quit. Most of the people I have left behind are dead, still in bad shape (most I would rather shit my pants, than get up and leave them alone in my house.) or jail for a long time.

I look at it like this. If you really want to get into heroin and other opiates you will follow the path...eating, sniffing, shooting, then shooting or sniffing or smoking heroin, and finally shooting heroin till you loose everything and have nothing left to barter, steal, or beg for. When the only thing that makes your world work is the sweet maintenence of the next hit.

I guess I should give a little backstory because I wish I knew more about opiates before I started taking them....thank you nancy reagan for making it taboo to talk about when I was young. I started off eating percocets and vicodin. I found morphine IV at a young age...I flourished for a bunch of years. I was an amazing chef, able to work many hours without rest, I was kind and considerate...as long as I had my morphine. Then everything went bad. I was sick all the time, I couldnt work, I was the same ball of neurosis that I used the opiates to mask even when I was on them. I tried suboxone, tried the thomas method a few times...finally got locked up, and when i got out i went to rehab. My life is shattered and I am just putting some of the pieces that aren't ruined back together.

Heroin is not some casual thing that you just do...it will become who you are.

If you are like most of the population and think that just sending someone to rehab fixes them...it was my third rehab that worked, and its not some magic door you walk through for thirty days and then walk out a model citizen.

Op: you have two choices here...use heroin and roll the dice, or step away now and never know how powerful it is.
 
Wow manboy....You are so right. You are basically telling my story. Heroin is such an insidious drug. It can be almost a subtle high that you have to pay attention to or you can miss it.

Then, it goes down the line until you're shooting it. And uuuggh what an absolute nightmare. I'm at the same stage ^^^ ...picking up the pieces of my life. I had a good deal of money in an account. Used some of it on dope, and the rest of it to clean up the mess.

So it's hard for me to tell someone what they should use. OP-if you won't listen to us, people that have been where you could be headed- I feel the best advice was to start w a matchead size so you don' t kill yourself. If you try it, I pray you don't like it. It really is the devil in disguise.

Some great posts in this thread.
 
Stargazer said:
Wow manboy....You are so right. You are basically telling my story. Heroin is such an insidious drug. It can be almost a subtle high that you have to pay attention to or you can miss it.

Then, it goes down the line until you're shooting it. And uuuggh what an absolute nightmare. I'm at the same stage ^^^ ...picking up the pieces of my life. I had a good deal of money in an account. Used some of it on dope, and the rest of it to clean up the mess.

So it's hard for me to tell someone what they should use. OP-if you won't listen to us, people that have been where you could be headed- I feel the best advice was to start w a matchead size so you don' t kill yourself. If you try it, I pray you don't like it. It really is the devil in disguise.

Some great posts in this thread.
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Agreed with the helpful post; I got se 3 times now, one was a mix of crushed pain killers and shitty H, the 2nd was pure brownish H that looked like gold.i only had what I had on me was 2 bars and a qbag of herb to trade so I em went hhg
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I'd suggest that you do not start using heroin. Nothing good will come from it, and it will not solve any of your problems, and it will create new ones like addiction or worse. Good luck.
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x 2, the best heroin dosage is none, that's one drug you really don't want to mess with..
It's must worse then meth and even a small amount could kill you..
Choose something less dangerous and addictive, please..
25% of the people that try it become dependent on it..
 
manboychef said:
what are we talking here? bags? a gram what?

I would start with a half bag to see what happens and the rest if need be.
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I was gonna ask the same exact thing. OP: WHERE ARE YOU FROM??? IS IT A BAG OF HEROINE OR A WAX PAPER STAMP?

There is no doubt in my mind if he's from the East Coast its a stamp and yes, NY/NJ China white is cut with fentanyl. Here in Chicago the dope sucks.

OP could you get back to us please?
 
sekio said:
8) most heroin in the US is cut way more than you'd expect, maybe your buddy didn't cut it, but someone up the chain almost assuredly did.

If it's actually heroin then you can expect ~60% bioavailibility from snorting, and it's about 2x as strong as morphine. Try between 10 and 20mg at first (20mg snorted is about 15mg absorbed in your blood, which is equivalent to around 30mg morphine, which is a pretty strong dose for the average person), but even 5mg should provide effects if it's really heroin HCl.

If you don't have a scale then don't "eyeball" it, go out and get a scale... taking too much heroin will make you sick before you reach doses that will kill you, but even then, you don't want to get sick.
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I used about a inch and a half very skinny line of this brownish white powder I was told was H and it indeed was; I got knocked on my ass for 15 mins and the rush was like a strong dose of hydromorphone which I'm using now since I found a plug recently, but anyways I now know how to start snorting and how not too due to all of your responses other than a few that suggested crazy amounts to use. I personally prefer codiene analogs than H, but, I do love morphine and hydromorphone/oxymorphone. *note- this was extremely potent and was odd how the first time buying was the best grade, & even the 2nd was the same but more soft and brownish; THIS form was even STEONGER! Only need half of what I said before and made me nod for what seemed days but really a hour and a half. I guess the east coast gets good powered H, which is nice due to me liking to snot shit more then shoot up.
 
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Weigh it out if you have a scale and do a very small line.. Like small key bump sized and wait. But you would be better off not trying it like everyone else has said just incase it is cut with fentanyl
 
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