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neurological impairment as a result of constant stress?

kaoskid

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for most of my life i have had severe difficulty with the action of writing (both print and cursive), finding it to be very painful and frustrating. i recently came across an old physical performance report which stated that my problems with writing were so severe that the tester was of the opinion that i had neurological impairment in the area of fine motor coordination, i am inclined to believe it.

i have had an extremely positive reaction to amphetamine-type stimulants to treat my depression which, according to one of the mods, suggests that i have noradrenergic deficiencies. i am also inclined to believe that as well because for seven years (literally seven frigging years) i was bullied every day to the point of what could be deemed as a "melt-down" (which involved me screaming at the top of my lungs in an effort to get the other kids to stop teasing me and then collapsing in a heap and crying, this started at the age of five and continued until the age of twelve, when my parents placed me in an alternative school), causing huge adrenergic and noradrenergic surges.

now, i am still quite young but my hands shake and twitch much of the time and whenever i try to play a particularly driving pedal rhythm on my saz (or Ba?lama, a turkish, long-necked mandolin relative) my hand begins to spasm, falter or seize-up, this cannot be normal for someone between the ages of innocent kid and college kid. this leads me to the question:

could i have adrenergic neuronal and axonal damage due to frequent release of epinephrine and norepinephrine resulting from repetitious exposure to stress and stressful environments?

any suggestions, opinions, questions or comments will be much appreciated,

thank you


note: the question mark in ba?lama should be a g breve (boat or half circle) above it, it is a letter from the turkish, extended-latin alphabet called yumushak ge. it is a nearly ( 98% ) silent g which extends the preceding vowel.
 
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I'd say that the situation you described could very possibly lead to long-term changes in your brain - especially since those years where your "formative" ones. Alot of your brain maturation happens during those years.

I'd say you need to see a doc, and probably a psychiatrist to get you on a good therapy/drug regimen. And I'd do this NOW and not later in life.

Kinda similar symptoms to post tramatic stress disorder (PTSD) don't you think?
 
Simpley. Yes, long term stress can cause degeneration.

could i have adrenergic neuronal and axonal damage due to frequent release of epinephrine and norepinephrine resulting from repetitious exposure to stress and stressful environments
No. If stress was going to cause neurological problems it would be corticosteroid mediated neurotoxicity, which I don't think has ever been identified in humans, but can happen in experimental animals.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7729802&query_hl=3

i have had an extremely positive reaction to amphetamine-type stimulants to treat my depression which, according to one of the mods, suggests that i have noradrenergic deficiencies
I wouldn't subscribe to that kind of thinking. No one has shown that depressed people lack serotonin, yet SSRIs treat depression.
 
Originally posted by lifeisforliving
I'd say that the situation you described could very possibly lead to long-term changes in your brain - especially since those years where your "formative" ones. Alot of your brain maturation happens during those years.

I'd say you need to see a doc, and probably a psychiatrist to get you on a good therapy/drug regimen. And I'd do this NOW and not later in life.

Kinda similar symptoms to post tramatic stress disorder (PTSD) don't you think?

Very good advice I think.

I'd say go get a 2nd opinion, it CERTAINLY would not hurt, and I think it would be definitely worth your while at this 'tender' age.
 
yes, i will see a physician about the shaking some point in the immediate future. and kharma_bum, i am not, by any stretch of the imagination, "tender" (my mental age [this is only a guess so don't take my word for it] is probably between 30 and 40 years while my body is quite a bit younger [though i am certainly not a child]).

lifeisforliving, i am currently taking 20mg dextroamphetamine sulfate (time release) per day, which helps enormously. the shaking began long before i began taking it, i am certain that the tremors aren't being caused by the dexedrine (although they were exacerbated by wellbutrin but i have been off it for quite some time).
 
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dude, I wish I could have been there to squash those total waste of life type people that need to bully to make their own insecutities seem less signifigant...
I can't believe it went on for so long without something being done to help.
You weren't the one that needed to go to a different school, the others should have been split up and moved to different schools... I'd bet that once they were on their own in a new school without knowing anyone, atleast some of them would have ended up being on the other end of the bullying...
I really suggest you get yourself into some martial arts, not where you have to fight but where you learn strength and how to defend youself along with some meditation....
It will help you so much bud, take back what was taken from you and make a full recovery. You'd be surprised how strong you can be, and stronger having gone through what you have.
The shaking could actually be worse with drugs, like stimulants... and others..
I don't blame you for shaking and feeling what you're feeling, you are reacting like any human would or for that matter any animal on the plannet likely would as well.
You arent' the reason for being the subject of intense bullying, you were merely someone or something these extremely weak individuals could "safely" bully without having to worry about it in return...
I could really go on and on, I'd lke to talk to you if you feel like it bud, get back to me....
There is something you can do to be sure to help all others going through what you have, lets talk..
 
You claim that amphetamine is working for you. In this case I advise you to continue to taking it. Continue doing this until you are of the opinion that you have been cured.
 
just a bit more... I got myself into martial arts when I was around 11, and from then on kickboxing, boxing, bodybuilding, powerlifting....
I used to get beat on by my dad, when he had a shtty day.. every few months... so I know how if feels somewhat anyway.. its different comming from your own parents because they're supposed to be you safe place in life... so it was always hard..
As I grew up and got around 50lbs bigger (pure muscle) then my dad he finally thought twice... butif I never had worked my ass of in the gym he'd probably bully me to this day.. I had planned on teaching him a lesson in life soon as I was strong enough but because of the mental part of martal arts I found strength in learning from it all and even though I was a very angry person I learned to find strength in myself and not being the same back to him as he was to me... although I must admit there were times that he'd use the wrong tone when talking to me and I'd sit there thinking to myself "dude you have no idea how easily I could tear you apart with my bare hands".... but then I'd just tell him off instead and walk away...
Now that I have a son of my own I'm almost greatful for the experience because I have the strongest sense of love and protectfulness for my own son... the complete opposite of my dad...
God forbid if anyone decided to bully my son as he grows up... he starts school next year..
needless to say I'll play a big part inthe school's programs about bullying...
problem is there are parents that beat on their kids, and then the kids become disturbed themselves, and take it out on someone at school that is least likely to fight back...
So its all relative.. I think most bullies have either been bullied themselves at home or other, or abused somehow, or they feel very inferior to others and try to make themselves look bigger or better by trying to make someone else look weaker....
Bro, you have a lot you can pass on to others, more than you can possibly imagine which would be a great thing not only for others but for yourself....
pm me bro,
 
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