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Need support trying to kick dope....I need help

NSA!! Was hoping to hear from you. Having a tough time. No sleeping but have been detoxing cold turkey. Hitting meetings past couple days as well. I really don't want to keep goin back and forth. Day 7 so there is hope
 
Yeah is a vicious cycle<3 until we are able to exit out of it.. in your thinking are you trying your hardest not to use or have you been able to make the switch in thinking to not wanting to use. I think there is a huge difference in doing everything we can not to use and not wanting to use. Do you still look at use as something that is good and enjoyable but you cant control it so you cant do it or have you been able to see it for what it really is a delusion of something enjoyable and is really causes us to feel miserable.

This can be a difficult thing but once someone is able to see through the illusion and make that switch in thinking then it seems that people are able to have a much easier time of it. I think its because then when the addiction starts to whisper how it will make us feel amazing we no longer buy into it and are able to call it on its bullshit. I feel this can make all the difference in the cravings. The other factors associated with the paws will go away with time and other techniques.. but I think the addiction losses it power and its drive with each successful time we are able to see through it lies.

Something you could try doing when you are in a safe place is to think through the whole relapse.. we have a tendency to just think about that little ass slice of time where we can feel pretty good. But do we actually really feel the way we imagine we will, no we dont. So how do you feel the whole time.. before, during, and after.. I think if you look at this in depth you will find you are miserable the whole damn time. If you can combine this fact with the reality that if you are able to make it through by using as many weapons and techniques to get through both withdrawals and YOU WILL HEEL AMAZING in a relatively short period of time.. like eight moths and you will cry at how good you feel all the time ;)

Your doing great TM13 its a process and your moving forward nicely:D
 
8 days off dope...cold turkey

Had another thread.... But for some reason I couldn't pull it up. I've done this a few times and hope this is the last. Neurontin and colonodine has been my go too weapons, now meetings and exercise. Man I just want to feel happy again. Be the dad I know I can be. Tired of the hiding and lies. One day at a time I guess.
 
Just keep doing what you're doing tm. You know what will help, and you're doing it so just stick with it! Meetings for support, exercise and eating healthy for PAWS, neuron tin and clonodine for WD/paws, just stick with all that and you'll do great man! The more you exercise and the more you get out and do things you like doing, the sooner you will feel happy again.

Indeed one day at a time though, don't future trip if you can manage - Just think about today and what you need to do for yourself, today.
 
neversickanymore said:
Try not judging anything as good or bad so then you will no longer have any negative things in your life.. and look for and identify all the amazing things that happen all day long.
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Day 9.... Yesterday cravings were tough. Hit a meeting last night and on my way to another before work. Slept 7-8 hours unassisted. Happy about that but still lack motivation and energy. Scared to fuck up so I'm gonna try 90 in 90. I'm sick off detoxing every few weeks so for today I'm pushing through. All the best
 
That's such a great attitude TM!!!

Stick with that - Don't worry about the future, worry about TODAY. The dalai lama once said something like "there are only two days out of the year where absolutely nothing can be done. They are tomorrow, and yesterday. So simply do the things you need to do Today, and live your life." (not exact quote but more or less...)
 
^^ I've come to learn that buddhism is to life as recovery is to addiction. The parallels between ending suffering through buddhism and ending suffering through recovery are numerous and prevalent throughout all the literature I've read. In recovery, you are trying to end cycles of suffering through addiction and all the problems that come with that, including feelings like jealousy, desire, lust, pride/ego, anger, resentment, etc. In Buddhism, it's believed that all suffering in general - not just addiction - comes from all of these exact same feelings and the practices are based around removing these defects in order to end suffering. I also saw an article about the Dalai Lama being interview where he was asked "What would you do if you could no longer practice buddhism?" He replied, "I would work the 12 steps". Pretty much sold me on the steps and I'm so happy I've started working them. I know the steps aren't for everyone, but at least for me even if I wasn't working the steps I know recovery is about a LOT more then just not using. I don't want to be dry and miserable - I want to be sober and happy. And I know it would be impossible for me to become happy if I don't work on all the unwanted aspects of my thinking. Everyone has the exact same feelings/defects as addicts/alcoholics have - we just have them to an extreme degree.
 
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