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Misc Need some infor on DXM, dosages and false positives, asap

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spyro11

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Im in a situation where Im dying to catch a damn buzz, but if I end up with a false positive, I will not be able to get my suboxone, and also may end up in jail. I dont want to describe my specifics, because you will all just judge me like they have on other forums under a different screen name, and I want info, not to be talked out of it because "its a bad idea and will lead to relapse", im NOT DOING HEROIN AGAIN PERIOD. but I intend to use psychedelics, I dislike dissociatives, but am only gonna take a little to feel like I had a few drinks.

I plan on taking 270-300mg DXM later today(2/20/2015, Friday) around 1:00 after I get home from my appointment. I *MAY* get drug tested on monday, and *DEFINITELY* get tested on wednesday for my subs.

I keep seeing competing information floating around the web, and what I can find is sparse - almost NO companies that provide dxm tests explain its half life or detection period completely, so I have no guess whatsoever as to the false positives... some say its 1-6hours, some say its 24 hours, some say its 3-7 days for complete detoxification, and some say EVEN LONGER!!!!

I have a VERY fast metabolism usually, and am in better health now that my system is cleaning up, so I probably an pass it through fast. I am 120lbs or under, male, 24. so does anyone even have rough odds of when it might be out of my system? Im pretty positive they dont test for it (i think they do use the biggest panel test, but I doubt dxm is on it even if its 24 panel), but the false positives alone could have dire consequences, so I pretty much need to know if its relatively safe before I do it.

Im pretty sure I wont have a test monday unless they surprise me, I JUST had one wednesday to get my subs and passed. if ANYONE HAS SOME ACCURATE INFORMATION, I would greatly appreciate it
 
Googling "DXM false positive" instantly brought up this:

From Erowid:

We have heard speculation that DXM may cause false positives for both PCP and Opiates in standard urine tests. After doing a bit of research on the web we found a small handful of references on the topic. Most of these support the possibility that DXM may cause false positives, but the only peer reviewed journal article refutes that normal doses of DXM cause false positives for Opiates.
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Another detailed report on this subject:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/725875

A DXM trip is not worth going to jail. Like at all.
 
There are tons of RC's & naturals (re: kratom) that won't cause false +'s. Why chance it on something like DXM? Also we are a very non-judgmental crowd here - we've likely either been in your situation, know someone who has or can relate, so don't be afraid. I will say though that BL doesn't do drug testing questions and this is kind of borderline so don't be upset if a mod closes it.
 
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There are tons of RC's & naturals (re: kratom) that won't cause false +'s. Why chance it on something like DXM? Also we are a very non-judgmental crowd here - we've likely either been in your situation, know someone who has or can relate, so don't be afraid. I will say though that BL doesn't do drug testing questions and this is kind of borderline so don't be upset if a mod closes it.
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as sad as it is the fear alone makes it not worth while. I probably wouldnt have fun worrying about failing that next test - it would me going to jail and going there very sick with no suboxone for months, as im nowhere near ready to get off it.

why? because I have no money, most of them are going to have little-no effect on me -- Kratom for example, is almost useless to me because I Have a decent opiate tolerance. I have to take a sub every day to get rid of withdrawl... I used to use kratom for the same thing when I had to work and couldnt get a sub - it stopped giving me a buzz a long time ago, and even when it did i had an opiate tolerance, so it didnt feel like much more than super-caffeine (not even like meth, just energy and positive mood). right now it would either do nothing in the presence of suboxone, or if I waited until I withdrew, it would get me well...

I wanna either trip, or get a stoned like feeling, or feel drunk. if I could get research chems that would be a possibility, but thats a risk in testing, in brain damage, and i have absolutely no money or bank account or credit card, so no access to anything. I cant have a drink, because im getting tested on days I see the sub doctor (once a week now), and days I see the counselors, about twice a month. there is the possibility of random testing too. so most drugs are just straight out.

my next best idea is hawaiian baby woodrose or morning glory, but idk where to find them this time of year, and I still have no money or credit card.

if you want, name me some good research chems. I've looked for things in the past when I had money, but most of it (synth cannabinoids - now illegal, RC opiates - too strong for human consumption...) isnt around anymore if it was a good buzz...

I mean maybe I could get away with 2ce or 2cb or whatever...
 
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i mean like, seriously, I HATE these programs, and I hate the state for their false ideological bullcrap.

i hope you all know that most, if not all, rehabs are literally spiritual/state cults that try to push life sobriety on everyone - not just helping them with drugs of addiction, but trying to convince them even good old herb is satans minion destroying your health for life. Id sooner have a corrupt sub doctor and manage my own maintenance and withdrawl if it wasnt for the fascist pigs who searched my car because I was speeding and had olive oil on my lips from eating it with bread. Id enjoy nothing more than to have a fascist pork roast, and dress the pig like a cop, advertise it in the damn paper, and burn a few american flags while I was at it. hell, if I could replace the pig with a REAL cop Id do it, but the amount of trouble itd get me in makes it not worth it, because it wont change the world.

these places are so willing to deny that any other basic medicines exist for simple disorders, and over-medicate you with literally brain frying psych meds - the kind they shut people up with in institutions - at the freaking drop of a hat. Probably just to dumb you down into compliance and subservience. but somehow, 'illicit' drugs that have no side effects are SATAN and will hurt you more somehow? because they are fun and people like it?

their message is lost on me, and anything it was originally worth is lost too because of the sheer evil of it all.

why not have a drug rehab based off simple principles that work, make sense, and heal people. No faith, no miracles, GOOD psychiatrists out to HELP patients out and not burn them out, a psychologist overseeing each meeting, real group therapy, instead of BS counselors - the counselors can be the 'sponsors' in my theoretical program. Not only would this create a more formal, professional atmosphere, but also allow for valuable skills to be learned, and REAL HEALING to take place.... ONLY drug testing for the single drug of abuse and other serious drugs - with statistical information being recorded at times of mess ups to see that, for example, crack heads are likely to try meth but not heroin or pcp... and only limited tolerance for repeated mess ups (you fail once, your not out, if you try not to again, 2nd time, rehab stay extended, 3rd, u are out... or similar) if someone started drinking, you could like, monitor the drinking, if it was moderate, its OK and no punishment issued (unless quitting alcohol)

harm reduction and logical, rational recovery and/or SMART should be the plan its based off, and open bashing of AA should ensue - plus, we could take REAL statistics to prove less people relapse and more go on to lead normal lives. because they arent a 'powerless addict slave to their desires who needs constant spiritual lashings' to stay in their place, but a free, breathing, living, beautiful human being.
a higher power can BE yours if you want it, but it doesnt HAVE to be. you dont HAVE to go to meetings - whatever you do needs to WORK FOR YOU. YOU have the power to stop it, not anyone else, because when your higher power isnt there, and believe me, he wont be because he/it/whatever, DOES NOT EXIST IN THIS REALM/MANIFESTATION OF REALITY!!!!!!

why base rehabs off the ideas of dogs of the state? why not base it off the idea that these are PEOPLE who need help. not animals to be herded around for money. sure the costs would go up, state funding down, there would be no legal push for it because legal ideas would be ignored. and why not use pain meds like oxy/hydro to get people detoxed? throw in some sub when they are at 2.5mg hydrocodone habit, and give it day by day, and then they would be in precip withdrawls, and over the physical part like SNAP!

im so tired iI cannot even be coherent or describe what I wnated to, so im goin to sljrop now b4 oi pass out in die
 
don't abuse DXM it can cause bad symptoms such as depression for up to 7 days following a DXM trip
 
It might cause false postivea on those shitty $10 test, but then theyll send it to the lab and theyll see your clean. I have first have experience. Ive never had a lab test for dxm and ive been tested for a bunch of different drugs out of the normal tests.
 
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