POST-"ROLL" UPDATE!
Ok, so being that we had been waiting for this night for a while, and apparently there were no other options available to us...Once we researched Methylone as much as possible, and figured it was worth the risk. Our experience was actually an amalgamation of most of the experiences found on Erowid...in other words..."interesting".
This can be moved to trip reports if it needs to be!
We dropped a little later than usual, as we were trying really hard to find "real" MDMA before we took the plunge, but it was no avail. Initial drop at midnight.
We started with 150mg each, and had two "boosters" of 100mg. We had read a few conflicting reports regarding boosters of Methylone. The first recurring thing that we read, was that boosters didn't seem to help extend all that much (which is why we had the boosters prepared anyway, having heard that bK-MDMA doesn't last as long). I can say wholeheartedly that (for us) each booster extended the roll for about an hour and a half. The other thing we kept seeing, was that a SECOND booster tended to have some pretty nasty post-comedown affects...I'll come back to this one in a bit.
0:00: Parachute 150mg
0:45: First alerts (for me...1:00 for her)
The first thing we noticed, as mentioned above, was that the comeup was VERY smooth...almost not noticeable in fact. It was really difficult to gauge at this point whether we should have taken a larger initial dose or not...We were definitely feeling "something"...but it certainly wasn't enough.
1:30 re-dose 100mg EACH
2:00 starting to peak
Peak finally started to hit after a couple hours and......it was nice. Lights weren't quite as tracey, and music wasn't quite as trancey, but body high was similar, and overall enjoyment was there. I hesitate to say "euphoria" because the feeling was NOTICEABLY different from MDMA...not necessarily in a bad way...but different. We enjoyed the next hour and a half by experimenting with different things we normally enjoy on MDMA, and finding out what we felt "works" for methylone.
3:30: Second re-dose: 100mg EACH
Having heard that methylone lasts a much shorter time than MDMA, we redosed yet again, to try and "salvage" our night. W.O.W.!!!!! I honestly lost track of time a little here, so I can't tell you exactly when the second re-dose hit, but it DID hit like a truck...much like MDMA. The come-up itself was still smooth as silk, just the high was a lot higher that the first couple of hours. Lights STILL weren't really that tracey, and same for music. Tactile response and body high were definitely on par, if not SLIGHTLY lower than MDMA. Here, however, is when we started noticing our first real differences.
Normally, on MDMA, or not...SHE is not very sexual. I am, and it is usually heightened on MDMA. I tend to be far more tactile, and she seems to be more reflective and "chill". This was different though. Firstly: Both of us were extremely sexual, tactile, and "interactive". Secondly: I still was NOT as sexual or tactile as I am on MDMA. Thirdly: I was the one who was more reflective. Apologizing to her for a few bigger issues in our relationship, taking full responsibility, and vowing to fix them. It's important to know that rarely do I ever cop to blame for anything. Methylone definitely made me more introverted...in lines of thinking.
5:30: Final comedown
So then the comedown came...or didn't? We never really noticed it. Just simply noticed we weren't high anymore. It either happened instantly. or it was so subtle that it was unnoticeable. DEFINITELY easier than MDMA by 1000 times.
Now...let me tell you about the next day...because it definitely wasn't something we expected...and has made us vow to NEVER take methylone again.
A lot of people have reported having no trouble sleeping on methylone. A few others have reported that a second re-dose in a night made them all cracked out. We take full responsibility for taking the second re-dose, and therefore, accept the cracked-outedness that we thusly experienced. It was terrible. Very jittery, wide eyed,not tired...but absolutely exhausted...if that makes sense? It was about noon before I fell asleep for the first time...and woke up 30 minutes later. 2pm for her. Honestly didn't get any sleep beyond the occassional 30 minutes until 1:00 AM the following night. We were up for well over 30 hours...and that sucked.
However, there is more. Because the comeup was so smooth and subtle, it actually made it VERY difficult for me to watch our water intake...something that I've never had a problem with on MDMA. We've never had any water issues whatsoever while rolling. Methylone though, was quite different. About three hours in, I noticed we had only drank about 8 oz of water each. On a "chill" night, this would probably be passable...but we were both pretty active, giving each other light shows/dancing/playing. We honestly didn't notice any of the negative effects of dehydration until AFTER the comedown the next day, and they were rough. Again, this is on us (mostly), but it's something we've never experienced, and it was just really difficult to keep up with our water intake on methlyone. Dehydration SUCKS! people!
Finally, there was one more, bigger effect, that I don't know fully how to explain, or what to attribute it to. SHE experienced this...I did not. For the comedown, and the first hour or so after, we were talking about us. Nothing overly emotional either good, or bad, just really talking. I noticed however, that she seemed to REALLY not be into the conversation, which isn't like her at all. She mentioned that she was having problems focusing, but nothing more. A couple hours later though, and she hadn't changed. In fact, she seemed to have gotten worse. She mentioned potentially needing a 5-htp, and I suggested that she likely didn't, given the chemical affects of methylone, and the fact that I most certainly wasn't feeling any "suicide tuesdays". She then began to cry, saying she wasn't depressed AT ALL, but felt entirely disconnected to me...herself...everything. I got a little worried, and jumped on BL (she said she wasn't worried enough to go to a hospital...yet). Found a few threads talking about anxiety, and it sounded like she might have gotten some from not being able to sleep, and then had a domino affect from the disconnect, which made it just keep collapsing further on itself? (Does that sound right, experts?). Anyway, I kinda forced her to eat some peanut butter toast, and it seemed to subside a bit...but it didn't really go away until well in the evening. It was NOT something she ever wants to experience again, and almost made her swear off rolling entirely. (yes, she knows it wasn't MDMA).
Anyway, once we both went to bed the next night, it was smooth sailing (for me at least, she isn't up yet, but I will update this if all is not well). In the end, we both agree that while the comeup/down are BETTER than on MDMA, the high is like MDMA's red headed step sister...not terrible, but we definitely prefer MDMA, and that the after affects are simply unacceptable. We will never take methylone again.
Other notes: For those who still intend on trying it: I would suggest 200mg for a first dose, and a SINGLE booster of 150. To compare to our normal MDMA dose: 150, 100 boost. I would suggest taking the booster at the 1:30 mark. **IMPORTANT!!** PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO YOUR WATER INTAKE! MORESO THAN YOU DO ON MDMA! This drug is a bit sneaky. The other thing to note, beware of: It seems that redosing this works way better for the HIGH than MDMA. I've read that because it doesn't empty your serotonin, it's possible to take this....maybe even daily, and still feel the effects. Obviously, I don't suggest this, I would assume that if you are going to take methylone, you should treat it as MDMA in terms of re-dosing, and waiting periods. The doses should be slightly higher to get there, but I wouldn't suggest re-dosing, even though it's theoretically possible. BECAUSE of this, I assume this has a higher chance for addiction than MDMA, as well as just general abuse.
Hope that helps someone! If anyone has any questions, I'll be happy to answer to the best of my abilities.
