Need some advice!

[Superloominal]

Alrighty so, this being my first post, Id just wanted to say ive been lurking for ages and have taken my fair share of substances, however I needed some insight on a matter. I recently acquired some "Molly" from a friend of mine. They picked it up at the Wormtown festival and brought it back with them. When I received it, it wasnt like any MDMA i had seen before: eggshell colored (greyish), mostly powder but it had a group of small beads mixed in. The friend told me it was "cut with tannin" which didnt really make sense to me even though i knew what tannin was, but I took it anyways. So 3 days ago, its monday night, I have nothing to do, so I decide to test the waters and try a bit of the stuff out. It came in two bags of .5, I laid one bag out on my table, diced it into four quarters and proceeded to gum 1 and 1/2 of those quarters... im assuming the dose was somewhere around .15-ish. I spent the remainder of the night waiting for it to kick in only to be disappointing. If anything colors were a little brighter, perception was a wee bit off and pupils were dilated for a short span of time. Now I noted that about 2 hours before hand i had eaten two bowls of french onion soup and took a relatively low dose, however, Ive decided to offload the stuff and get my money back. Catch is, im selling it to a good buddy of mine and although I know its not bunk, i also know its not exactly potent. My buddy is going to be splitting the remainder of the bag, a .8, between him and two other friends and I want to ensure that he has a good time. Im not comfortable at all with the notion that im ripping off my buddy so i want to find out any ways i can maximize his roll. From my long time lurking around Ive learned that the best way to get a quick come-up is to insufflate a bit and for a length, parachute the rest. This is what I planned on telling my buddy on top of telling him to take 5htp supplements the days prior.
So, block texts aside, do you guys have any advice on how I can guarantee that they'll roll? Or has anyone acquire MDMA of similar quality?

 

[futura2012]

So can I just clarify this you are wanting to resell some bunk MDMA and want advice how to some how improve the roll for the person you are selling the bunk too and ripping off?

Please tell me I have misunderstood what you are saying..

 

[Superloominal]

Haha yeah misunderstood. Not bunk, just generally impotent. Or atleast from what I could glean, although that may be wrong because as I said, the dose i had taken was relatively small, I had eating a large dinner not 2 hours earlier and Im a pretty big guy. So i guess i shouldve expected shoddy results. Im just inquiring as to how I can maximize their roll if the stuff really does turn out to be less potent than I hope. If they dont roll im going to completely reemburse them!! I would never rip any one off. Im just not interested in it at the moment so i thought id hand it off to someone else.

 

[futura2012]

Either get them to pre load.

http://www.rollinballzcrew.com/preload.shtml

or mix it with something.

Why dont you just try and clean it up with an acetone wash.

Then test it before passing on in this way.

Personally I would use the bunk and experiment with it instead of passing on. You could practice some recrystalization this way you learn and make it into something more potent.

 

[Superloominal]

Ill take your second bit of advice. Less anxiety involved and more opportunity for me to learn about the substance. Even RBC says that you should roll on an empty stomach, and to not eat 5-6 hours before hand, when i ate a large meal less than 2 hours before dropping, which I think attributes to my less-than-rolling test run. Can you explain more about the acetone wash bit? and may I inquire how much truth there is to the bit about insufflating a bit of the M and the quick come-up?

 

[futura2012]

Can you explain more about the acetone wash bit?

Sure. here is a thread i started. It isnt quite finished yet but this will help you out. If you need any more questions answering maybe you could ask them in this thread as I could do with it bumping back a bit.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-Clean-Filter-Acetone-Wash-amp-Crystalization

and may I inquire how much truth there is to the bit about insufflating a bit of the M and the quick come-up?

Sorry to sound a dick what do you mean by this can you explain more. I will likely know the answr I just dont understand the teminology.

 

[Superloominal]

Haha not at all. So what ive learned from lurking and experience is that the 3 most popular ways to take MDMA are gumming, snorting and parachuting. After reading a bunch it seems that snorting the M seems to be the best (and worst feeling) when it comes to feeling the effects quick. Likewise, parachuting seems to be the best when it comes to cutting out the putrid taste and increasing duration. From your experience, is there any validity to this. Do you have any personal tips?

 

[futura2012]

I would say you want to break up any crystal or pill you have and absorb it in a small drink. This is the quickest way it will enter your stomach and cross the absorption barrier.

I started a thread that discusses mixing the MDMA in a small shot of red wine. There is a claim that the tartric and citric acid contributes to the absorption speed. Currently its a theory.

I also hear adding sugar can be a contributing absorption source.

I would advise you against railing MDMA as its a salt and could have nasty impuritie chemicals. At least wash it prior to doing this. I prefer the protection of the kidneys there is some evidence to suggest railing is more neurotoxic also. It is certainly a lot closer to the brain.

 

[Superloominal]

Awesome. Ive heard bits and pieces about doing it that way. Ive also just read into DarkSideSam's thread about dark chocolate and mdma and so im going to see how the effects are after eating a bar of dark chocolate for a few days, throw that in there just for good measure. Also, the plan has changed so that the rest of the lot, the .8, is now going to be shared between myself and two other friends. As i said, I took a .15 (150mg?) and didnt feel much, so should we be concerned about taking our shares, .26's (260mg?) in one go? Im gonna play it safe and assume i should probably split that dose into two bits.

 

[futura2012]

Also, the plan has changed so that the rest of the lot, the .8, is now going to be shared between myself and two other friends. As i said, I took a .15 (150mg?) and didnt feel much, so should we be concerned about taking our shares,

Sharing like this is much better than your original proposal of ripping someone off. If you ripp people off you get paid back by karma. Something bad will happen. I like Karma its an awesome concept that truly works

Ive also just read into DarkSideSam's thread about dark chocolate and mdma and so im going to see how the effects are after eating a bar of dark chocolate for a few days,

DSS is right. What you actually need is cacao its high L tryptophan. You could eat cacao pure or alternatively you could even eat an L tryptophan cap. You could take it one step furher and eat 5HTP. Some feel cacao or chocolate is a more natural source. Its debatable really. Cacao also has many other benefits. Bananas also have good qualities for pre loading. Exercise is also highly advised.

Once you start to get into it the complexity of the body and drugs is highly advanced. Its a fascinating topic.

 

[Superloominal]

Yeah haha im a denouncer of supernatural entities but if there were ever one that I trully believe in its karma. Pretty much the sole reason I went with this new plan. Thought it better that I lose a little money and roll myself that gip a buddy. And who knows, it may turnout to be a superb roll, i may have just had bad luck that first time.
On the topic of the body and the way it intakes drugs, it really is a fascinating topic. Im curious to conduct my own test as well as see if they come to any conclusions in DSS's thread. There seems to be an infinite number of foods and supplements you can use to preload and postload.