Heroin Need insight, Insufflating heroin mixed in water

[SirRollsAlot]

Hey all!
So after a couple of hard ass weekends and minimal week day powder drug use, my nose needs a break, I had my first ever nosebleed (in my entire life, I have always had a strong nose) and had minor discomfort. However I use H nasally Only. Ive read about mixing water and H in needless syringe and have heard its Way easier on membranes. I just experimented with filling a Pepto bismo measuring cup with roughly 2.5 mL of H2O and half of a line and snorted, no pain except that some went strait thru into my throat. Can a fellow BLue lighter get some advice as to how to do this correctly and efficiently and/or tips on Insufflating safety!?
Thanks a ton everybody.


... A little side note, has anyone noticed that cigarettes aren't as good on H as they are on Oxy!? Maybe a personal/ stimulating factor? My opinion anyways. Thanks

 

[tricomb]

You're snorting way too hard if anything is going back to your throat. Nasal administration of drugs should be done with a light inhale, just strong enough to get the solution in your epithelial walls in your nasal passage. If you're inhaling sharply or with force, you're not doing it right.

Also, heroin is EXTREMELY soluble in water, there's no need whatsoever to use 2.5mL, that's going to be rather painful going up the nose, especially if you're using poor technique and inhaling sharply. I would recommend dissolving your dose in the smallest volume of water possible, you should be able to dissolve a line of heroin in 0.25mL water, or you can use saline.

 

[SirRollsAlot]

It was more close to about 1mL, I took a second look and 2.5mL did, in fact look way more then originally.
How ever, I'm interested in the saline method, where can I get saline? And I think it was a factor of having too much water, and the fact that my nose so completely empty and already dry, and I guess snorting a little lighter would've helped but I was never one to snort hard. Thanks for the recommendation Tricomb!

 

[Znegative]

Yeah, when I shoot heroin I've never used more than 1/2 a mL even when doing large shots 5 bags and up. Usually I only use 3-4 units. If you're going to waterline I think it would be best to use as little water as possible and to tilt your head back and sort of drip it into your nostrils. If you push down on the plunger too fast your going to spray a good portion to the back of your throat and essentially waste it as heroin is pointless when taken orally.

 

[tricomb]

Saline spray is available at pretty much every store, pharmacy, and gas station in America. You can get straight saline or just use a nasal saline spray.

I just get a plain saline spray at my pharmacy. Be sure not to buy the wrong thing, like Afrin and other decongestants that are often right next to saline on the shelves. You don't want a decongestant, just plain saline spray.

 

[Psilocylian]

Here's a pretty efficient method I've found for doing this using a couple of shot glasses and two short straws. Fill one shot glass with water and put your H in the other glass. One straw stays in the clean water and the other is used for stirring/dissolving the H and for dosing. Collect the amount of water you want to add by dipping the clean straw in and plugging it with your finger, then deposit that into the glass with the H in it. Once it's dissolved you can measure doses in the same manner with the "dirty" straw; by plugging the end with your finger. Then just tilt your head back a bit, bring that straw up into your nose (not very far, of course), release your finger and the little drop of heroin water will land in there nicely. (edit: when you release your finger, it's helpful to give a little sniff which will ensure the H water coats the membranes and doesn't just run out of your nose or back to your throat or something like that.. this all sounds a bit uncomfortable now that I read this text, but it really isn't.)

It's not a very mobile setup, but it's primarily useful for mixing up larger batches for repeated dosing over several hours. The water evaporates pretty quickly so it's just nice to have a full shot glass of clean water sitting right there. You can also squeeze the straw before plugging it with your finger, then stop squeezing it after you plug it and it will suck up water. This is helpful for getting the last dose of the liquid H if you're not planning to mix up more. I think the best part about this method is the fact that you can change the potency of your H water with minimal effort by either adding water or more H. You'll get a feel for how much water to pull into the straw after you dose a few times.. too much water will make your H immediately run down the back of your throat when you put the drop in your nose. Lastly, while you -can- add just enough water to get the H to dissolve, it seems to work better if it's watered down a bit more than that.

I hope this was helpful. Enjoy!

 

[SirRollsAlot]

^thanks thanks thanks, and yeah one thing I loved was minimal pain. Reading that over again sounds like it would be more efficient and effective then simply snorting the powder. this could be done with a needless syringe as well I'm guessing? Thanks again guys. I suppose this is way easier on the nose as well? It seems like it would make sense that the more damage you do to your nose the less effective as absorbing drugs it woul be?! But I'm no doctor

 

[Psilocylian]

There's still a slight burning sensation for the first few seconds depending on the H (unless it's just me, but I doubt it).. I've always associated that sensation with really good tar, but that could easily be all psychological. But I do think the water method is easier on the nose than just powder, regardless of whether or not said burning occurs. It does still seem to screw up your nose if done in large quantities for hours or days, but I think that's just the nature of the beast. Whatever the case it never resulted in bleeding or residual pain, only slight congestion and/or an increase in obvious mucous production.

I see no reason why the water method wouldn't work just as well with something like an oral syringe (whatever the sans-needle syringes are called).. whatever it takes to get the liquid in there should be fine!

 

[hair-O'winn]

use a nasal spray bottle, the pump kind works best.. it sprays a mist into your nose and coats your nasal cavities instead of going straight down your throat.. also, very incognito. you can do dope in front of your mom and she'll never know. it still burns, but it's a good burn right? i always thought so.