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lilmikeeis

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okay guys i am having serious sleeping problems. no matter what i do, i dint take any sleeping meds yet, cuz idk witch one to get. but i cant fallasleep till 3am-4am and i wake up at 8-10am its like every day. i have no idea what to do. it started happening 1-2months ago. and the only way i fall asleep at 12am is if i work my ass of during the day and get super tired. it 1:38am right know so i am trying to get help. any help will be aprichated. -thank you
 
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I get that only i wake up in the afternoon my main problem is boredem and not wanting to lay still
 
BJCS333 said:
I get that only i wake up in the aftern on my main problem is boredem and not wanting to lay still
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same here man. same thing but i only wake up at 8-10am cuz i want too/need too. if i had the choice to sleep till afternoon ohh man i would. my main problem is i would be super tired during the day but i would pull throu till bedtime so i fall asleep. once i lat down in my bad its like boom 100% recharge. like i can run a marathone while fucking a chick and pulling a truck at the same time.
 
Tell us what methods you have tried so far. Sleep irregularities can be hard to decipher due to the vast amount of variables that are unique to each other along with one's own personal diet, daily activities, etc etc.
 
Try avoiding computer/tv screens in the evening, also, install f.lux on your computer.
Do everything to make sure you're comfortable when laying in bed. (go to the toilet, eat/drink enough, maybe even take a shower or bath)
Make sure you drank enough throughout the day, so you won't have to drink a lot right before bed, that way you'll avoid any urges to leave your bed.
If it's thoughts that keep you awake, try keeping a notepad and pen next to your bed, to write them down. This way your mind is able to put it at rest for the time being.
Avoid caffeine and excessive sugar intake in the evening.

If all that didn't work, try taking melatonin. This is the chemical your body produces in the dark to induce sleep. It's available without a prescription (at least, where I come from) and it's a natural, body's own substance with next to no side effects. Only side effect I've ever experienced was feeling a bit woozy in the morning.
 
blah. stop caffeine altogether. go to malwart and buy/find melatonin - get the 10mg ones and get a bottle of generic benedryl/diphenhydramine. have a set bed time and everyday take 2 melatonin and 2 benedryl at that time and lie down for three hours (just lie there if you have to). after a few days, the melatonin will set your bio clock and the benedryl will make you sleepy, too. it doesn't help to up the dose.
 
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blah. stop caffeine altogether. go to malwart and buy/find melatonin - get the 10mg ones and get a bottle of generic benedryl/diphenhydramine. have a set bed time and everyday take 2 melatonin and 2 benedryl at that time and lie down for three hours (just lie there if you have to). after a few days, the melatonin will set your bio clock and the benedryl will make you sleepy, too. it doesn't help to up the dose.
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I would never advice this ever. 10mg of melatonin is already too much and goes far beyond the natural production that would occur. Recommending 20mg is just illogical. During sleep if the hormone can't be completely utilized and metabolized you will wake up groggy because the hormone is still biologically active to a greater degree.

If you are going to take melatonin either take it in 1mg-3mg. I would personally say 5mg would be max. You have a better chance utilizing something that is a predecessor to the melatonin conversion to create a natural hormone rather than synthetic introduction. (5-HTP, L-Tryptophan) I personally makes me a little carmer. My dosages are usually 500mg when you wake up, 500mg in the afternoon and it usually does the trick for me. Don't take it too close to sleep or it seems it cause some pretty weird dreams.

List of processes its involved in.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2908021/

Benadryl may make you sleepy, but you won't achieve REM sleep due to the sleep process being more of a chemical haze rather than actually cycling through the various stages of healthy sleep.
 
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I take melatonin every night. It's not for everyone. I had insomnia for the longest time. Melatonin has helped. I can't sleep without it. But at least I can sleep. For me, it was the choice of melatonin every night or not sleeping every night.
Diphendyromine helped occasionally. Benzos helped occasionally. DO NOT MIX the three.
5-HTP makes me have nightmares so I wouldn't advise that before sleep but that's just for me.
 
llama112 said:
I take melatonin every night. It's not for everyone. I had insomnia for the longest time. Melatonin has helped. I can't sleep without it. But at least I can sleep. For me, it was the choice of melatonin every night or not sleeping every night.
Diphendyromine helped occasionally. Benzos helped occasionally. DO NOT MIX the three.
5-HTP makes me have nightmares so I wouldn't advise that before sleep but that's just for me.
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That is what a lot of people make mistakes with is dosages of L-Tryptophan or 5-HTP. It should not be taken too close to bedtime. Generally taken one dose in the morning and one in the afternoon. Acetyl-Serotonin dictates whether or not serotonin stays in the state of its existance or continues along the metabolic pathway to melatonin. Now the kicker is that you must consider the activities of natural melatonin production and in the introduction of an exogenous source that is synthetic in nature. From my experience anything that brings about the upregulation of natural melatonin production vs administering the melatonin as an exogenous supplement causes way more intense effects (extremely vivid dreams that have a tendency to be a nightmare)

I can replicate that nightmare effect everytime with 500mg of L-Tryptophan 30 minutes before bed.
 
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